Star Motions versus The Earth’s Shape

Star Motions versus The Earth’s Shape

  It is acknowledged as an axiom by good thinkers everywhere that all truth is harmonious, and that no one fact in nature can be contradicted or subverted another fact. It is not so with error, or even with plausible theories; these, owning to our limited knowledge, may appear harmonious for a time, but if one fact in nature, or in history, be found out inconsistent with and contradictory to those theories, this fact alone would be sufficient to stamp the theories as false. So it has been proved with globular theory.

As a correspondent lately wrote: “Satan the father of lies, has reduced the art of deception to a science, and he is at the bottom of the globular theory, which he has provided with hooks and eyes that fit in marvellously with some phenomena.” but one fact has been found out which is inconsistent with, and contradictory to the globular theory, and this fact, that water is level, absolutely level, is quite sufficient once and for ever to overthrow the globular hypothesis however marvellously some of its ‘hooks and eyes’ may fit.

If the world were a globe and the surface of all standing water would be convex; flat earthers proved that it is not convex; therefore, the earth is not a globe. On the other hand, if the earth were a plane the surface of all standing water ought to be level; practical experiments have abundantly proved that it is level; therefore the earth is a plane. The account of these experiments can be obtained by those willing to go to the expense of buying the literature, so it is not our purpose to reproduce them here.

What we wish now is to point out that until these practical experiments respecting the shape of the earth are properly disposed of, no other theories, or facts, respecting star motions or even the motions of the sun and moon, will be allowed to shake our confidence in the fact that water is level. This is one of our sheet anchors. The other is that the Word of Him who created the world, and who ‘cannot lie,’ is in harmony with it. So that our vessel has a strong anchor at both ends. Let friend or foe destroy these, if they can and dare to, and our barge will then be driven by the fierce winds about to blow over the earth, and will probably be wrecked on the sands of scepticism or the rocks of infidelity. But as long as either of these anchors will hold, and each alone is strong enough to hold, our position is unassailable and secure. Our only danger lies in the possibility of insensately slipping the anchors ourselves; but this may our chief Captain graciously forbid.

However, we write to warn at least one of our correspondents of this danger, and the lesson may be useful to others. If water has been proved to be level, and the earth therefore a plane, no manner of star motions, or sun’s motions either, can prove it convex or globular.

If you subsequently find out other facts you cannot explain you must wait until you can, or until someone can explain them to you, but no true flat earth believer will run away from the previously ascertained fact that water is level. It is inconsistent and illogical so to act; and no reasonable man will be guilty of such folly. Settle one foundation truth and stick to it, at least until there is some fair attempt to over throw it; and be assured that other ‘facts,’ if really facts, will ultimately be explicable in harmony with the foundation fact already established.

If the earth be a globe how is it that there is so great a difference between places of equal latitudes north and south? If the sun circles round a south ‘pole,’ as it does around the north why should there be this difference, evidence of which we cull from our opponents? Is the midnight sun regularly seen in extreme south latitudes? Do southern starts all circle round one southern point? Or, are there more magnetic star centres than one? Where are they? Careful observations ought to be made from different parts of the world at the same time. The sun, moon, and planets have somewhat different motions from the so-called ‘fixed’ stars. The former are sometimes directly over the northern parts of the equator and sometimes far south of the equator, according to the signs of the zodiac they happened to be in; whilst the ‘fixed’ stars have practically always the same declination, and remain in the same groups or constellations.

The motions of both these sets of heavenly bodies need carefully watching and accurately recording, especially at the times of rising, culminating, and setting; not however with the view of ascertaining what the shape of the earth is, but with the view of ascertaining the nature of the motions of those bodies which are actually seen to be in motion. Even then care will have to be exercised lest we confound the motions of light with the motions of the bodies emitting the light.

If our friends all over the world will help us by clearly and accurately record the observed motions of the heavenly bodies it would be of service. Our discovery relates to the behaviour and motions of light, as it comes from above and passes downwards through the atmosphere, a medium of ever increasing density. Let observations be made at different recorded times and places, say, when the sun or any of the heavenly bodies, is directly over the equator, or in its farthest north or south declination. When, and where, such body seems to rise, to culminate, and to set; what kind of a course it seems to follow; what altitude it appears to attain; and what are the supposed latitudes and longitudes of these places.

We must remember too that all these latitudes and longitudes are calculated upon the supposition that the earth is a globe; and they depend upon observations, however accurately taken, which are affected by the question as to whether light travels in straight lines or not when coming down upon us from the ‘lights’ in heaven above. If the moon be observed, let note be made of her apparent size, shape, and position. If a bright fixed star be selected, whether it always appear to rise and set in the same direction from the observer, or whether its position seems to be affected by atmospheric conditions. If the sun be observed, say next March when he is on the venal equinox, whether he seems to rise due east and to set due west in all parts of the world? We should then discuss what the terms east and west mean, and so might have some useful evidence for determining the motions of the heavenly bodies, or at least the eccentricities of the motions of the light as it falls upon us from above.

 

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The Inconsistency of Limitless Space

The Inconsistency of Limitless Space

   A rational conception of the physical or organic form of the universe cannot be entertained in any logical mind consistent with any idea of the earth as a rotating globe. That which destroys conception of the centre and circumference of the universe also destroys the idea of its form— the assumption that space is eternal and illimitable prevents any conclusion that the cosmos or world of existence, has any centre, for how could a centre be conceived in a universe whose circumference infinite space! The principles of modern astronomy are thus suicidal— the hypothesis demands the action of tangential and centripetal forces to hold worlds in position— and this “law” of the two potential forces, logically analysed, refutes the system and destroys its claims.

If one sphere acquires the actions of these two forces upon it, there is no logic which does not lead to the conclusion that all spheres require them— it demands that the moon revolve around the earth, the earth around the sun, the sun around a larger and another sun, and that, in turn, another, and so on ad, infinitum with an eternity of geometrical progression, through a universe without a centre, without form, and consequently without existence, for how can there be existence without the two essential factors of form— centre and circumference ? But the idea of boundless space is a product of the astronomer’s mind— he reaches this conclusion by assuming the convexity of the earth’s surface, and thus loses himself, his science, and his reason in a whirling mass of worlds in a fathomless abyss of space— and agnosticism!

 

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Earth Rotating? Yea, Sure!

Earth Rotating? Yea, Sure!

“Whilst we sit drinking our cup of tea or coffee the world is supposedly rotating at 1,039 mph at the equator, whizzing around the Sun at 66,500 mph, hurtling towards Lyra at 20,000 mph, revolving around the centre of the ‘Milky Way’ at 500,000 mph and merrily moving at God knows what velocity as a consequence of the ‘Big Bong.’ And not even a hint of a ripple on the surface of our tea, yet tap the table lightly with your finger and … !” -Neville T. Jones

“I remember being taught when a boy, that the Earth was a great ball, revolving at a very rapid rate around the Sun, and, when I expressed to my teacher my fears that the waters of the oceans would tumble off, I was told that they were prevented from doing so by Newton‟s great law of Gravitation, which kept everything in its proper place. I presume that my countenance must have shown some signs of incredulity, for my teacher immediately added – I can show you a direct proof of this; a man can whirl around his head a pail filled with water without its being spilt, and so, in like manner, can the oceans be carried round the Sun without losing a drop. As this illustration was evidently intended to settle the matter, I then said no more upon the subject. Had such been proposed to me afterwards as a man, I would have answered somewhat as follows – Sir, I beg to say that the illustration you have given of a man whirling a pail of water round his head, and the oceans revolving round the Sun, does not in any degree confirm your argument, because the water in the two cases is placed under entirely different circumstances, but, to be of any value, the conditions in each case must be the same, which here they are not. The pail is a hollow vessel which holds the water inside it, whereas, according to your teaching, the Earth is a ball, with a continuous curvature outside, which, in agreement with the laws of nature, could not retain any water.” -David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma: The Earth Not a Planet Proved From Scripture, Reason, and Fact” (1-2)

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Compass Proof

Compass Proof

One of a number of proofs that the Bible is the Word of God is the fact that no other book in the world can be translated into so many different languages, and lose so little of its native beauty and force. This fact indicates that it was written for all the Israelite nations. So we may equally say tht with regard to the truth of the world being a vast plane, and not a globe, we have amongst numerous other proofs the fact that a ship sailing on every known sea the mariner’s compass is not only an essential help, but it is a positive necessity. If the earth was not flat, what use would the compass be? If a vessel was, say 50° S. the compass could not possibly point to the North Pole. And where would it point of the ship were on the line? Let your readers try it on a pasteboard globe and see for themselves.
John Williams

 

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European-Japanese Flight to Mercury

European-Japanese Flight to Mercury

The BepiColombo Mission Fraud

  As you may have heard recently there is a planned satellite flight to Mercury by the European-Japanese space agencies. This is due to take place in 15 months. This is a continuing con of the public that there is actually flights to other planets. So, let’s take a look at Mercury.

We are told that Mercury is the closest to the sun and that the temperature reaches +400C and goes as low as -180C So, with these figures in mind, let’s take a closer look. The BBC article said that at these temperatures zinc and tin will melt but other metals won’t. Fine, but it goes much deeper than that. In fact, RT News says it’s like a flight into a pizza oven.

How can a satellite made out of other metals perform in such temperatures? Sure, there are many metals that melt a higher temperature but that is not the concern. How can there be insulation that would stop the tremendous heat from affecting the electrical circuitry? How and lubricants be protected? How can transistors be protected? The space agencies hope you don’t ask such questions. And, unfortunately, very few people ask in the first place.

We are told that there will be communication from the satellites, (there will be two of them on this mission), sent back to earth; that photos will be taken. This is not to mention the other delicate sensing equipment that will be checking the surface of the planet, such as volcanic eruptions.

  The surface of the Mercury satellite might be made out of titanium but what about protecting the inside from heat? Of course, titanium will not be used. If they say that it will, then how do they account for the tremendous weight? We can talk on 100 ways of why it’s impossible to send satellites into space. The first obstacle is the firmament or dome that seals in the earth. All other talk of space travel is mere fantasy.

Here is a challenge you can throw out to those who believe we can send a satellite to another planet and that is: let’s see a test right on earth in front of the public. This test will have the satellite in question in a room that can have the temperatures go from a low of -180C to +400C. Then, let’s see how it can do all the things that we are told it can do. This should not be too hard. After all, all tests have to be done on earth in the first place in order to prove that it works; tests in a lab has to be done so engineers know how to correct the design and make modifcations. So, why not for the public?

  The next time you hear your friend talk about some satellite going to a planet, and he says how amazing it is, you can answer back in a way that would say nothing of the flat earth. Just ask some simple questions such as:

How is it that the oil doesn’t break down in tremendous heat?

How is it that the oil doesn’t freeze in such tremendous cold?

How can they make insulation so good that it’s not effected?

If such insulation is so good, why isn’t it on the market?

How can a signal be sent millions miles and we get such good pictures when we can’t get a cell phone signal when we’re out in the country (although we have satellites supposedly being able to beam any place on earth)?

This should make a person think, IF they have any curiosity at all. You should be able to think of even more questions to make your globe earth friend doubt what he is being told. The aim is to make people doubt what they are told. Then, this might get them to think more before they agree with the newspapers and those in authority.

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Scientific Credulity verses Religious Beliefs

Scientific Credulity

verses

Religious Beliefs

To give a true and unprejudiced account of any religious system, a man must once have believed in it, or he will give an superficial view of it; and he must have ceased to believe in it, or he will be prejudiced.”

In quoting the above from M. Renan, I can use the words of H. M. Prior, who was 20 years a minister of one of the seven Catholic Apostolic Churches in London, on opening the account of his experience there. He said, “I am in this position,..with respect to orthodox astronomy, I formerly believed in theoretical astronomy, but now I renounce it as being contrary both to facts and reason and the Holy Scriptures.

“The Earth is the Lord’s, and the fullness thereof; For he hath founded it upon the Seas, and Established it upon the floods.” Psa. 24.2

These words give strength to the argument of the sceptics, against the authority of the Bible, so long as the popular teaching is upheld, both by themselves and Christians.

I remember a conversation I had some years ago with a man who I judged to be an atheist; or a deist. He had been listening with others to a Mr. Walter Skinnner of Brighton who was preaching on the obtaining of the future life alone through Jesus Christ. We were on the Level at Brighton, and the sceptic told me that his principal of sole reason for doubting Mr. Skinner’s statements, “was grounded upon the fact that the Book from which he took them was in direct opposition to Science.” He further said that he was a student of science, and the opinions and discoveries of great and learned me, and therefore the gospel would not do for him, as the two: science and the Bible did not fit agreeably together. This shews how lamentable it is for a Christian to blindly yield to the claims of “science.”

In regard to Christianity, the Sceptic said that the masses believed in it, for the reason that they either had no power of thinking themselves, or they did not exercise this power; for they accept as truth without enquiry just whatever any preacher tells them who is under the impression that the he is above his fellows in knowledge, or who desires some little notoriety. But, I replied, is not this the case to a large extent in science as well as in religion? Sceptics profess to believe in science, and astronomy, although they possess no practical knowledge thereon, just because some great man teaches these things, and the masses about them are brought up to believe them.

So that “science” in all its branches, has its unthinking votaries as well as religion. I soon perceived that this man’s faith was blindly fixed in the accepted or orthodox doctrines of what is termed “science,” especially astronomy; and that everything in his mind was made to succumb to his prejudice and unreasoning faith in his astronomical speculations. I asked him if God had not created the stars? He said, “No!” However, according to Laplace, the sun had formed itself out of primitive nebula and that this was the case with myriads of other starry globes, including the earth, all of which being huge sparks had been shot off the great fire-wheel of the Sun, like sparks from a grinding stone in rapid rotation” The Sun’s immense distance account for for its apparently small size, and its apparently small size being due to its supposed great distance ! This is called “circular reasoning,” and infidels as well as unthinking Christians believe them.

This sceptic said that he “believed” that the Sun was 1,409,725 times the size of the earth; and that both these bodies in common with 100s of millions of “other globes” were formed by condensation from vapours as rain drops are formed in the clouds. He supposed they had done this of themselves, for by some mysterious process described as “the laws of Nature!”

The difference being that these rain drops required only a few seconds, whereas these supposed solid bodies and worlds required millions and millions of years for their formation. Men talk glibly of these immense periods in the formation of the so-called “crust” of our earth, and they say that is must have taken millions of years for the crust of the “globe” to form and to cool. But what reason have the masses for believing this so-called scientific theory rather than the grand and simple account of Creation as given in the Bible? None! Christ by his miracles proved himself to be from God, and Christ endorsed the Mosaic account of the Universe. But sceptics are as blindly prejudiced in their unthinking scientific beliefs as the masses were in the dark ages in their unscriptural and theological faiths. Let us turn from all these teachings of me, whether they be of Newton, Herschal, Laplace or Arminius, and let us turn afresh to Nature and the Word of God for our own information and instruction. Let us have facts, not fancies, and let us read facts even in the light of a little common sense and criticism. Like others I once accepted these theories without exercising any thought and inquiry. But now I see it is impossible for one who really thinks to accept both the speculations of astronomy and the Scriptures. I for one, therefore, prefer to stand by the bible account of the Universe as it harmonises with all I have now learned on the real facts and appearances of Nature. As for all human fancies and astronomical speculations let them be discarded before we give up our trust in the Word of Him who made the World, and who promises eternal life to all who believe in His Son.

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Scientific Falsehoods and The Flat Earth

Scientific Falsehoods and The Flat Earth

  At school in our unsuspecting childhood we are taught three great falsehoods as truth, and today our children are taught the same. First falsehood, “the world is a globe and round like an orange.” Second falsehood, “it rotates on its axis.” Third falsehood, “it revolves in an orbit round the sun.” Now it is not universally known that beside these two primary motions there are said to be five others, so that the globe of modern astronomy has seven motions!” But we dare for the truth sake tell these astronomers that when sentient beings are tossed and tumbled about in seven different directions at one and the same time, there must be “sensible effects” felt by them. No! Say modern astronomers, you must throw your senses to the winds, for those motions “are only appreciable to astronomers.” Happy innocence! What next? Let us look at theses seven movements in detail.

1 – Rotary motion producing day and night

2 – Orbicular motion round the sun annually

3 – Fulcrum motion, by some supposed to account for tides

4 – Motion of the aphelion and perihelion points round the ecliptic

5 – Progressive diminution of the angle of the earth

6 – Precession of the equinoxes

7 – Nutation to and from of the earth’s axis

How long is England going to pay men for these falsehoods? John Bull ought not to be ignorant that they are falsehoods, for this standing orders in the House of Lords and Commons proves incontestable that it is known. It is there declared that “a datum horizontal line, which shall be the same through the whole length of the work or any branch thereof,” shall be used, both in cutting canals and making railways. What would have been the use of “a datum horizontal line” in the cutting of the Manchester Ship Canal?

Manchester Canal

  We affirm that it would not have been any use whatever, for if the world is a globe, with a rate of curvature of 8 inches to the miles, multiplied by the square of the distance in miles, one end of that canal should be, the canal being over 35 miles long, 800 feet below the other end. But a datum horizontal line was used and consequently the world is proved to be a vast irregular motionless plane, and the waters by which it is surrounded horizontal also at their surface. Let those who believe that it is the custom of surveyors to make alliance for earth-curvature ponder over the following from:

The Manchester Ship Canal Co.

Engineer’s Office, Manchester, February 19th, 1892

Dear Sir,

It is customary in Railway and Canal constructions for all levels to be referred to a datum which is nominally horizontal, and which is so shewn on all sections. It is not the practice in laying out Public Works to make allowance for the curvature of the earth.

Yours faithfully,

W.H.H.

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Again, another authority writes: “As an engineer of many years experience, I say that this absurd allowance is only permitted in school books. No engineer would dream of allowing anything of the kind. I have projected many miles of railways, and many more canals, and the allowance has not even been thought of, much less allowed for. This allowance for curvature means this – that it is 8 inches for the first mile of a canal, and increasing at the ratio by the square of the distance in miles; thus a small navigable canal for boats, say 30 miles long, will have, by the above rule, an allowance for curvature of 600 feet! Think of that, and then please credit engineers as not being quite such fools.

Nothing of the sort is allowed. I must, however, state that college astronomers have made the student engineer to think that in his method of levelling what is known as the ‘backsight’ cancels any curvature by his ‘foresight’ and so on. It is only a theory, and if astronomers declare that our method of levelling cancels the obligation of making this allowance, we shan’t quarrel with them – it does no damage to our projects when we get into practice, but we no more think of allowing 600 feet for a length of 30 miles of railway or canal, than of wasting our time trying to square the circle.” W. Winckler, C.E.

Here then we have practical evidence that falsehoods are taught through astronomical theories to our children at school. Here we have practical testimony that the world is not a globe, and consequently has neither Rotary, Orbicular, or any other head-over-heels tumbling motion. Here we have practical evidence that the teaching of modern astronomy is mere theory and utterly false to Nature in every conceivable way possible and yet the teaching of this so-called “most exact of sciences,” is one of the strongest evidence Secularism has to “prove the Bible a myth!” Ha! Ha!

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If the Foundations Be Wrong

If the Foundations Be Wrong

If the foundations be wrong, everything built on it will be wrong, too.

A friend sent us a book by Mr. Laing on “Modern Science and Modern Thought” and he wants to know what we think about it. We are sorry we cannot speak in praise of this work. Briefly, if modern “science,” and especially astronomy, were true this book would be the most telling attack on Bible Cosmogony we have every read. But the writer assumes the earth is a globe, evolved as the scientists teach, and now we know it is not, his premises being unsound, his conclusions are fallacious. But while Mr. Pember, Professor Drummond, or F. Hugh Capron, support the evolutionary and globular theory tey will never be able to cope successfully with so-called science. Instead of vainly trying to reconcile a false “Science” with the Bible, we ought to attack the Science, or at least to call it into question; for as Mr. Laing well says, “The two statements cannot both be true.” but he makes the illogical mistake, common to most writers who attack the Scriptures, of first assuming that “Science” is infallible, and then he innocently draws conclusions adverse to the Inspiration of the Holy Scripture. But he should first prove the globular theory true. Let him try.

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Happy Dependence Day America!

Normally today, July 4, would be Independence Day in America, but we had lost that right many, many years ago. Instead of celebrating Americans should be repenting of all the freedoms they lost. When people think that we have blessing, when, in fact, we have curses for our disobedience to God’s laws, it shows how brainwashed the American public is. Now, we are dependent on Big Brother for everything rather than living on the promises that God gave us.

 

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The Earth’s Rhythmical Breathing

The Earth’s Rhythmical Breathing

A surprising scientific discovery

(Flat earth believers know that the the moon does not cause tides. Though this article attributed the tides to the moon, it did reveal something that is not told today – namely, that the earth ‘rises and falls.’ This supports what we are told in the Bible that the earth came out of the water. I find this article interesting reading and hope you do, too.

Spelling is as is in the original article.)

The following paragraph was cut from The Leicester Daily Post, Aug. 25th, and sent us by a correspondent who asks: “Does not this support the view that the earth is a plane floating on the mighty ocean?” The paragraph was headed as above reads:

  We all know that there are oceans tides, spring and neap, and they are due to the positions of the sun and moon relatively to the earth. “The full of the moon” strikingly affoots the sea. It did not occur to us to think whether it also affected the atmosphere and the earth itself. All that was notice about it, apart from its marine influence, was that the persons of unstrung nerves underwent crises at the full of the moon. Then so-called scientific men laughed at this belief, as being in the nature of old wives’ fables. But being founded on observation it was nothing of the sort. M. Bouquet de la Graye, an eminent hydrographical engineer, has, after long years of patient study, calculated the atmospheric expansions and depressions which coincide with the spring and neap tides. There have been cases in which air was moved in waves of 133 years high, and in places where the barometrical pressure was seven-tenths of an inch, of six and a half miles. Near the upper surface of the earth’s atmosphere condensations and dilatation of this magnitude are frequent. The human nervous system may be said to register these air waves. We are only aware they do so by the discomfort which we feel. The earth also registers them, and to its very centre. The incandescent and fluid matter under the earth’s crust acts in concert with the air and sea at the full of the moon. In 1890 a German scientist, Dr. Rebeur Pachwitz, thought he notice at Wilhelm-shaven and Potsdam earth oscillations corresponding with the course of the moon. He wrote to the Observatory of Teneriffe asking for observations to be made there in December, 1890, and April 1891, which would be propitious times for them. From these observations, and others simultaneously made in the sandy plains round Berlin, it was established that the earth rises and falls like the ocean and the atmosphere. The movements, common to them all, may be likened to that of the chest in breathing. – Paris correspondent, “Weekly Despatch.”

To the above question we reply, Yes! Certainly. Parallax, in his excellent work, entitled Earth Not A Globe, shows that the tides are caused by rhythmical rising and falling of the earth as it rests upon the sea, and not by any alterations in the absolute height of water. This explanation was so simple that the scientists scoffed at it; but now after an acknowledged “scientist” has discovered what was already known to Zetetics it is called “A surprising Scientific Discovery.”

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The Moon’s Tidal Action

The Moon’s Tidal Action

So-called Moon Tides

Mr. John Hill’s notice of the Moon and Tides, in the last number of The Earth, is a reminder that on several occasions I, with others, have carefully watched the Thames, while in full flood, at Richmond, observing the volume of water was composed of two distinct strata. The lower tidal, or bed stratum, of about two feet deep was somewhat cloudy and carried a large amount of detritus , and was rapidly flowing towards Teddington, while the clear upper stratum, of many feet deep, was flowing strongly towards Isleworth and London.

From the theoretical astronomical side evidently the moon was ignoring the upper stratum of water entirely, and devoting all its influence on the lower one on these occasions ; but as the luminary has no apparent effect on water in mid ocean, land-locked lakes, ponds, or even small puddles, this need not cause much wonderment.

Intelligent people think, if the moon causes all the astronomers say it does regarding the tides, these peculiarities could not exist. The fact is the astronomers know little more of the celestial luminaries and their influences than the man in the street, although professing to talk very learnedly about them. Parallax, in his work Zetetic Astronomy, advanced a more sensible and feasible cause for the tides than all the theoretical astronomers and so-called scientists have been able to do up to the present.

As to “Nature’s” and Lord Kelvin’s treatment of Mr. John Mill’s letter, that is no more than was to be expected from such sham oracles, as no doubt they saw the drift of the (questioning, which would only hold them up to ridicule had they dared to be involved. They would give the ears of their heads could they produce only one solitary proof of the globularity of the world; they know it cannot be done but are too cowardly to own it. What an exhibition of British learned pluck!

LUX

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