Flat Earth Believers vs Christian Deniers of the Flat Earth, part 1

Christians are the primary group of people who would be interested in knowing about the flat earth. After all, it is God’s creation that we are talking about. However, there are some very misinformed Christians who attack those who believe in the flat earth. In fact, some of them are not honest and they should know it. Below are excerpts from a long article on a major Christian website. This website primary aim and subject of conversation is Creationism. Their website is:

http://www.Creation.com

The article in question is titled: The flat-earth myth and creationism

They have about a dozen articles attacking in one way or another us Flat Earthers. Below are just excerpts from it followed by my comments. For the original article Click Here.

With this information, you’ll see that other such articles follow the same pattern. Then, you’ll be able to defend the flat earth knowledge.

First, we’ll look at the author of the article, Jerry Bergman. Now, this person is not just some person who stock shelves in a supermarket, he’s got 9 degrees, a couple of the Ph.D. So, he should know better. It just goes to show that people with all kinds of degrees can be dishonest as anyone else. I will not go over everything this Bergman said, as the article is 9 pages long.

My comments will be in italics.

The idea that Christians once commonly believed in a flat earth for theological reasons is a myth.

This is a statement made out of hand – Christians DID believe in a flat earth.

The story was invented to promote the claim that Christians have widely resisted scientific advancement due to doctrinal constraints.

The science is in the Bible! Early Christians (though not all of them) believed in the flat earth because it follows common sense.

A Google search of ‘creationists’ and ‘flat earthers’ produced 37,100 responses, and most of the articles reviewed in some way referred to creationists as ‘flat earthers’. An example is Schadewald’s claim that ‘flat-earthism is as well supported scripturally and scientifically as creationism.’3 He adds:

This is because the world leaders – I mean the real leaders – want it this way. They want to equate flat earth believers with stupid people. After all, if this is well ingrained in the people, who would want to be associated with stupid people. This way, it keeps people believing in the globe earth.If there was no negative association with believing in the flat earth, then more people will take the time in listening to what we have to say. You see, the key is to get the people not even to listen to it because if they listen to the arguments of a flat earth they will realise that it is the truth.

According to my research, flat-earth believers in the West consisted of only a handful, at best, of true believers and most of the last few adherents died decades ago. A flat-earth web site exists in Great Britain which is actually a discussion group about a variety of topics, and none of the members appear to be flat-earthers.

This is an outright lie by someone who many claim is smart; perhaps Jerry himself thinks he’s intelligent. How can he say that there are “few adherents died decades ago!” Has he been to YouTube sites where there are many videos on the flat earth with views of 10s of thousands? Some have over 100,000 views. Jerry also talks about “ a flat earth website exists in Great Britain,” as if there is only one in the whole country or in the whole world. By implication it sounds that way. Did he mention mine? No, as that would skew his figures. Did he mention Eric Dubay or Mark Sargent’s site? No, as that would show that this flat earth truth is gaining ground.

The most well known flat-earth believers were members of a religious organization headed by John Dowie. He ruled the town of Zion, Illinois, a small city on the shore of Lake Michigan.6 Dowie was deposed in 1906, and Wilbur Voliva led the group until he died in 1942.

This is old information and should be no reflections on the flat earth believers today.

Then the author goes on to talk about how the previous head of The Flat Earth Society, Charles K. Johnson was semi-illiterate and had many mistakes in spelling, grammar and logic. The word this so-called educated man should have used is semi-literate, not the other way around! Then he said how Johnson had many spelling and grammar mistakes.

This is a common ploy by people critics whether they be liberal, communist, Christian or Jews is – if you don’t have the facts you attack their grammar, you attack their mode of dress or anything else. Creationists don’t like it when Evolutionists do it them but here, Creationist do the same thing back when they are attacked. Anytime when you see this, you know they have a weak argument. Yet, if a supporter for their side – whatever that topic is – writes to them, they ignore their grammar and spelling mistake, they don’t use the “[sic]” which they are fond to use. After all, “He is one of us.” Such hypocrites!

Bergman goes on to attack Johnson organization and how his members were stupid, too. Now, how does he know that? The main point is nothing of science was discussed – not in this article or on other articles on the flat earth on creation.com site.

In short, whenever the messenger is attacked rather than the message, you know that person don’t have the facts to back them up, in this case, the flat earth. This, Charles K. Johnson did have facts in his newsletter.

For a sample of Charles Johnson’s flat earth publication, Click Here.

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Distance of Stars Debunked part 2

By “Richlion”

In the previous post, I talked about the stars and their so-called distance from the earth.

What I will cover in this article are:

Photos of stars and galaxies

What does the Bible say about the stars

Firmament – what is it?

Photos of stars and galaxies

galaxy-1  Your first comment might be, “What about all those photos of the stars and the galaxies – how can they be close to the earth without us burning up? How can they be close without the astronomers and NASA not telling us?”

I don’t want you to believe me but do your own research. Look at photos of galaxies on Google. Do you think that some someone with a computer and imaging editing software could do something like that? You’ve seen beautiful pictures like this in the films, and how was that done? By computers. Remember 2001 A Space Odessy shown to the world in 1968? That looked real and all that was done without the computer programs we have today.

Still don’t believe? I don’t expect you, so let’s go on. The pictures of the galaxies usually has a section done in beuatiful color; any color you can think of are part of galaxies. Take one galaxy that has, for example, a magneta color that fills space that looks like it could cover 100 or 1,000 light years in length. Now, what produces that? Surely it can be a star as any star that gives off that much light would destroy all the stars and planet within that area. And where is that HUGE star? All I’ve seen are little points of lights – nothing so big that would justify such a huge part of the galaxy to light up.

Now, take a look at one of our planets in our solar system; pick one out any one. Say Saturn. When you bring up images on Google, why are there so many variations? Why are the rings of different shapes. Sure, there are some things that are kept the same, they do have to put rings around it, an they do have the “eye” that is always there, but there are too many other variations. Now, look at those photos again, can they be made by computer imaging graphics? Sure they can.

In short, all these “photos” are done by computer or by hand. Look at the artificial satellites – they are really fake looking. Look how show-room clean they are and look at the beautiful composite with the sun and the earth lined up just right – it looks like a studio shot.

I know you need more convincing than this, so let’s explore some more…

What does the Bible say about the stars

galaxy-2   There are many verses that has the word “stars” in them. We read that the seed of Abraham is compared to the stars in multitude. But what we want to look at is different context for stars. Here are some of them (this list is not complete but it will give you an idea):

Gen_1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

If stars were huge balls of fire, and that there are billions and trillions of them, don’t you think it would take God longer than a week to make them?

Job_9:7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.

Why “seal up the stars” that are billions of light years away?

Job_22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

If the Universe is what we are told, then a “height of the stars” would have no meaning. There is no “up or down” in space; where is the base point, the ground from which to measure the height of something?

Job_38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

This sounds like something more that a nuclear chain reaction of plasma gas that is million miles in diameter. It sounds like something that has intelligence and sings.

Psa_147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

Now, there could be 3,000 stars and God knows all their names but a billion x a billion stars and knowing their names?

Dan_8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

This verse gives us the first indication of the size of stars. If stars are what we are told, even one star getting closer than 93 million miles would burn up the earth. So, how can stars come to the earth, unless they are very small and NOT a burning mass of gasious fire? It looks like these stars can be stamped upon, which would also indicate that there would be life still on the earth and not mass destruction. Now, many preachers would say, “This is figurative.” What I’ve notice that anything that preachers can’t explain, or that is “politically incorrect” they tell us it’s figurative!

Joe_3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

Why should God darken the stars millions of light years away from here? We wouldn’t notice the difference. And, since we are TOLD that there is life on other planets, why should other people suffer?

Rev_1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Seven stars in his right hand, sounds like something that can fit in your hand. Is this figurative, too? Read the rest of article before you determine it.

Rev_1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Rev_2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand,

Again, an indication that something is small.

Rev_6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Here we read of stars falling to earth and comparing it to fig leaves. First, if stars are what we are told, then why would God use something that is the biggest thing you can image as a figure of speech, why not something that is more likely to happen? Also, notice the words “fell unto earth.” When is space what is the horizon, what can fall, what is up and down? There aren’t any. Keep this in mind as we read on.

Firmament – what is it?

Here are some verses with the word “firmament” in it:

Gen_1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

So, what is the firmament?

Firmament Strong’s H 7549 It’s a streching or covering of the sky.

Gen_1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

It looks like something that divides the waters from the waters.

Gen_1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Gen_1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

This firmament there are stars in them, as stars help determine the seasons.

Gen_1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

Gen_1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

This indicates that it has to be relatively close to the earth. Stars thousands of light years away can’t be much use to us in giving light.

Gen_1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

This, I would interpet as the atmosphere where the fowl fly and not the region where the stars are.

Psa_19:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

We can see the beauty of God’s handiwork in the stars we do see; they don’t have to be a billion billion stars – which we can’t see. Some preachers would say these billions of stars show’s God’s handiwork but why can’t they see that thosands of stars can’t show his handiwork, too?

Psa_150:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

Eze_1:22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

Notice the word “crystal” we’ll come back to that later.

Dan_12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Again, and indication that there are stars in the firmament.

The Bible says a lot about the “firmament” yet few people realize it. I will tell you something here that I have not read on any other flat earth website or seen on a video; I came across this quite by accident. I looked up the word “firmament” in Noah Webster’s 1828 Dictionary. This is the first dictionary that was complied in America. Back in early America, Christian education was part of educating a child (most of them were home schooled then). In this dictionary when a word is used, many times it would refer to the book and verse in the Bible where it’s found. Christians back then knew much more than Christians today. Noah Website was widely read and he must have learned of something that most people back then did not know. Here is the dictionary entry for “frimament.”

Webster 1828 Dictionary Firmament 1 Consisteing of crystal, as a crystaline palace. 2 Crystaline heavens, in ancient astronomy, two spheres inbetween primum mobile and the firmament, in the Ptolemaic system, which supposed the heavens to be solid and only susceptible of a single motion.

Here we are told that this firmament is like crystal, a mass of some sort. Also, this firmament is mobile and there is motion to it.

In your older Strong’s Concordance of the Bible, the word “firmament” has a meaning that it’s “beaten out, something that is like beaten brass.”

This firmament is believed by some scholars, especially those of centuries ago, that this is over the earth, above where the planes fly and is a dome that reaches down to the outer rim of the earth. This dome keeps our atmosphere in. Inside are the stars, but the stars are little points of light not a million miles in diameter plasma gases. And it is this dome that revolves around the earth, which gives the stars motion. It would be liken to a glass bell jar and within the glass there are the thousands of stars. Then, this bell jar slowly moves around the earth. Therefore, we can’t fly beyond this point or even to it in most cases.

What we see with out telescopes is within this firmament; the rest (all the galaxies) are made with CIG and even paintings. This gives us the impression that there are billions of stars, and thus, our Universe.

I hope you have a better idea of the stars and their relationship to the earth. You’ll probably still have other questions but I hope that you had more of your questions answered. As time goes on, we’ll try to address more questions. So, stay tuned to this blog, bookmark it and tell your friends about it – we appreciate it. God bless you and yours.

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Distance of Stars Debunked, part 1

  Astronomer tell us that the stars are anywhere from a few light years away to billions of light years away. We are also told that all the stars are traveling at the speed of light – away from where the “Big Bang” occurred. Finally, we are told that our earth is also moving away from where the “Big Bang” occurred, while, at the same time traveling around the Sun at 67,000mph. If that wasn’t enough our solar system is traveling around The Milky Way at 500,000. Wow! Is all this true? Is all this possible? I say this is not true.

The closest star is said to be Alpha Centauri at 4.37 light years. Ursa Major group is about 80 light years. The furthest is the earliest starts that supposedly shot off during the Big Bang, being 13 billion light years, and, of course, there is all the distance in-between. For our purposes let’s just look at starts that are within 100 light years from earth. Keep this in mind as I continue…

To determine IF the stars are moving, each in their respective directions, let’s first take a look at something from home so we can comprehend all this.

Say you are looking up to your left and there is a jet plane traveling at 500mph at 1,000 feet over head, it would go by fast. Now, this same jet, going at the same speed and going in the same direction is flying at 30,000 feet; it would look like it’s flying much slower. Why? We all know that the further from us the object is, the slower it will appear. This has to do with what is called “parallax.”

Definition: Parallax is a displacement or difference in the apparent position of an object viewed along two different lines of sight, and is measured by the angle or semi-angle of inclination between those two lines. Nearby objects have a larger parallax than more distant objects when observed from different positions, so parallax can be used to determine distances.

So, seeing an object move slower that is far away does not mean that object is moving slow – we all know this.

Now, back to seeing stars at night. On a clear night and away from city lights we can see the stars move across the sky. If you were to spot the Big Dipper early in the evening, and you looked out a couple of hours later, you would see it had moved a good distance across the sky. Now, with stars being, say, 100 light years away, that is a HUGE distance. How can that much movement in a few hours be possible? They would have to be moving many, many times the speed of light. In fact, every star in the heavens would have to be moving like that. What would it be, 100 times the speed of light, 1,000 times? In short, the further away the stars are the faster they would have to move, as they all move in unison, so they would have to be moving faster.

The problem with this (and there is more than one problem) and that is, how can stars move that fast without disintegrating? How can their planet hold up to the speed of light much less 1,000 times the speed of light? In fact, how can anything withstand 500,000 mile per HOUR?

How do you determine the truth?

There are two things to consider, and this applies not only to astronomy but to any other topic you can discuss.

1 There are things that we are told

2 There are things that we experience – reality

Now, if you are into the New Ager and follower of David Icke, that there is no reality. Then the System got you! The Elite wants you to believe in no reality, that way it’s easy for you to suspend judgement – then they can tell you anything and you’ll believe anything.

I’m digressing now, so let’s get back on track…

When you are told one thing and you experience another, take the experience as evidence and you’ll be on the right track. (This is not an optical illusion, so we can rule this out.)

“So, where are the stars?”

Well, they have to be a lot closer than what we are told. Now we are TOLD something else, that the stars range in size from something smaller than our Sun, which we are TOLD is about 800,000 miles in diameter to starts that are millions of miles in diameter. (Our Sun is small, so we are told.) Now, with stars that size, they can’t be close or they would be touching each other, and if they are real close – even right out side of our solar system – then we would burn up.

So, we have to settle the size of the stars, what are they exactly and how far (rough approximate) they are from the earth.

One thing that we have determined is that these stars are not billions of light years away, they are not millions or even thousands of light years away. They are much, much closer but I’ll leave that for another article, so check on this blog for that article Distance of Stars Debunked, part 2.

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Christians and the Flat Earth

Christians who write against the flat earth avoid writing about the hard science if they did they would be flat earthers themselves. The only way they can hold up their errors of beliefs is to avoid talking about science. What they talks about instead is: “Did early Christians believe in the flat earth? Did St. _________ believe in the flat earth? The early Christians did NOT believe in the flat earth.” It’s is statements like this that does NOT address the flat earth issue but side steps.

Once the facts are looked at these Christians will have to look and re-examine the scriptures again. So, what are the scientific facts?

If the earth is a globe and the circumference is 25,000 – which we are told by sceintists who believe in the globe earth model, than you can compute the curvature at any given distance. So, let’s go with what they say and what the math says. For the earth being 25,000 miles in circumference, that would mean that the first mile there would be a drop-off of 8 inches. To determine the drop-off of any distance, you would square the distance, multiplied by 8 inches. For a distance of 50 miles, the math would be: 50×50=2,500×8=20,000 inches. To get feet, you’d divide it by 12, which equals 1,666 feet.

What does this mean?

This means that in order for a ship to be see the light house the light house would have to be at least 1,666 feet high. Now, we know that light houses are not that high. If the one in question is 150 feet high that means the top of it would still be 1,000 feet under the horizon. Since it’s a fact that an object can be seen 50 miles from a ship (weather permitting of course) it would be impossible to see it IF the earth is a globe.

Flat earthers are NOT disputing the circumference of the earth, as a flat earth’s equator would be mid-way between the North Pole and the outer edge. Thus, the math is correct (using spherical geometry). But you can still see the light house. Now, we know that light can’t be seen through miles of ocean and we know that solid object can’t be seen through solid objects either.

Let’s take another real life example. Many years ago a man on an English canal put a telescope about one foot above the water. He had a friend in a row boat sail to the 6 mile point. This canal has a straight 6 mile section. Once he reached the mark, the other man standing in the canal look through the telescope and could see the man and the boat down to the water line. The math for this is: 6×6=36x8in=288 in / (divide sign) = 24 feet. This means that the man should not be able to see his friend at all – he would be below the curvature of the earth; that if his friend stood up (assuming he was 6 feet tall) he would still be 18 feet below the line of sight. This is mathmatical proof that the earth is flat!

You can do this experiment yourself. All you need is a telescope, anohter person, paper and pen. If you don’t have a friend, then take a tree or tall object, drive in your can the distance you want in a straight line; and take that distance and do the math.

Back to Christians and the Flat Earth

There are many other facts that can be looked at but the Chrisitan sites I’ve been to, do not address the facts, they point out what so ancient Roman catholic church leader believed in. First, it doesn’t matter what they believed in – we have to look at the facts. We know that there are many false prophets – back 2,000 years ago and today. There could be others who are sincere but they are sincerely wrong.

If you are undecided or if you are still a globe earth believer, that is fine. But ask yourself this – if you sincerely are looking for the truth – that you should hear what the “other side” says and not ignore those arguments. Now, if some preacher thinks he’s being smart, he can easily lose some of his followers by them seeing what he is doing.

The website that I have in mind is creation.com where they are mostly writing about creationism. They by no means cover the many, many other topics that are in the Bible. It seams like we have “specialist pastors” as we have specialist doctors. What a strange kind of bird. I feel sorry for the Christian that goes to this type of site and thinks it’s the begin all and end all of Christianity, but continuing, how would this pastor or contributing writers of this website like it when they are treated this way by Evolutionists? They don’t like it and they make it known. In fact, they would charge the Evolutionist with ignoring the facts or the statements that they (the Creationist) make. YET, they do the exact same thing as their adversary does; I’ve seen this so many times with other topics that it must be a weakness in human nature.

Go to creation.com and do a search for flat earth articles there and you can see for yourself how they deliberately ignore our points. I say “deliberate” because they would have to read what we stand for. If they haven’t, then that is another mistake. Perhaps they just remembered the words “flat earth” from grade school and NEVER once did research on the topic. Can creation.com and other sites like that be excused? I say “No.” Why? Because the know how to do research as their articles on defending Creationism is well done; they have studied the Evolutionist books and used their articles against them. So, these certain Christians are without excuse. No wonder so many people have left the church – people can learn more by reading the Bible (KJV 1611) on their own at home. The fact that you are reading this, tells me you are seeking the truth.

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Cult of Pythagoras

FLAT EARTH: In this video I explore how both Darwinian Evolution, and the Copernican heliocentric model, originated not from the application of the modern scientific method but instead from the ancient Mystery School traditions and pagan mysticism, specifically as evidenced through the figure of Pythagoras himself. In essence, heliocentric cosmology is an ancient satanic counterfeit to the true, Biblical, flat/enclosed Earth (just as Evolution is a Satanic counterfeit to God’s act of Creation…)

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Bogus Re-entry Vehicle

34:00 he talks about “regular satellites can be in space,” this is not true. What people “see” from their home is not the space station or any satellite, but rather a passenger plane. As you can see something the size of a bus (for a satellite) a couple of hundred miles away.

When there is a “re-entry” like the kind we saw many years ago in the Gemini and Apollo Missions, they actually came in from a high altitude and a parachute was deployed – they did NOT come in from space at 17,000mph.

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No AC Units in Space

This video talks about air conditioning units and there are no signs of it on the space station. In fact AC units can’t work in a vacuum or where there is no air.

As you watch these videos, it’s good to take notes and this way, you’ll be able to answer most questions people have.

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How The “Illusion” Of The Flat Earth Leads To New Age Nonsense

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By turning the words “flat earth” into a metaphor to say you can’t believe your sense, make it easy for people to believe in this New Age nonsense.

For centuries the flat earth metaphor has been used, in part, to say that we can’t believe our senses. Then, with that thought, people can push into the New Age without us knowing it.

Part 1  Click Here

Part 2  Click Here

Part 3  Click Here

In this short video clip you’ll hear Gary Craig, founder of Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT), start with using the flat earth metaphor. From there, he said since “science” discovered that the earth is round, it changes the way we look at the world. In short, that we can’t believe our senses.

This is only the first step to lead the gullible public into believing his next step. Craig then tells the audience (looks like a couple of hundred people) that the earth is neither flat nor round, but that it doesn’t exist! What nonsense is this!? Since he got the people convinced that our senses can be misleading – now that “science has prove the earth is round” – he takes it a step further in that we can’t believe that, either. However, he sure wants you to believe this “Non-existence earth.”

So, later in Gary Craig’s talk (on another video clip) he talks how he had this personal experience with God and that everything he sees is “not real” that everything about his collection of beliefs is not real. This is his so-called personal experience with God. Once he has you set up with this, you can easily follow him into this next statement, which is, A Course in Miracles. This is talked about more in video clip number 3.

If you don’t know about A Course in Miracles, you just missed a lot of blasphemy about Yahweh, God and Christ. It’s too much to add here, so I will leave a link ( Click Here ) where you can read more. Just let me say that this book, written by an atheist Jewess back in the 1960s is filled with lies about Yahweh, God and Christ. The book says, among many things, that there is no such thing as sin, that we are like Christ, that we don’t need a redeemer, etc. Click the above link to find out more. The importance for this is, to show you how many people are mislead when all they think they are learning how to help others with their pain and disease.

Gary Craig also claims to be a pastor but he has never said anything more than a few words in his many EFT seminars. If he was really a pastor he would know of the many scriptural lies that is said in A Course in Miracles. And, as Craig said in the first video, that “I’m an avid student of A Course in Miracles.”

Probably a million EFT followers look up to Gary, and when they do, they are most likely to believe everything he says. (He could have several million followers.) Thus, they are being led astray. People who accept the info in this book will also accept other lies that is found in the New Age Movement. (Though that name is not commonly used now, it really the same old lies that was pushed in the 70s and 80s.) The people who push this sort of information are people like Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, David Wilcox along with those in what is called, The Law of Attraction, which includes people like Brian Tracy and Bob Proctor.

Yes, we can help people with their health and they can recover by using natural methods but not by, what is commonly called “energy healing”, which includes Reiki and Touch Therapy.

Do you want answers to today’s problems? Do you want answers to family problems? Do you want answers to national problems? The answers are in the Bible. Get a King James Version 1611 Bible (not one of those blasphemous new versions) and there you’ll find your answers.

Getting Back to the Flat Earth

To sum up I would like to get back to the flat earth. What the astronomers and people from NASA tells us is diametrically opposed to what God tells us in the Bible. God says that the earth is fixed, has a foundation and doesn’t move. The astronomers and astronauts tell us something differently. (Yes, the Russian cosmonauts say the same thing – they are in the lie, too!) So, who do you believe? God or the lying “scientists” who works on behalf of the government?

God does NOT deceive us with our senses. (Yes, Virginia, there is optical illusion but looking at the earth is not one of them.) When we look at the horizon, it appears flat because IT IS FLAT. When we look at the horizon at a high altitude it looks flat BECAUSE IT IS FLAT. When we go outside, there is no feeling of movement (as if you have to go outside to feel movement), that is because THERE IS NO MOVEMENT TO THE EARTH. When we are told that the Sun moves across the sky – IT MOVES ACROSS THE SKY.

Sure, I know experiments can be done where the scenery moves and you don’t but there is a machine under you to make you feel movement and a fan is blowing to make it feel like wind from the speed. But God does not trick our senses, he doesn’t not play games with us, and, more importantly, everything God says it 100% true.

So, start believing in God and stop believing in computer generate images produced by NASA!

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Bible Study 2: The Flat Earth

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Here is a study of what the Bible says about the flat earth in this 41 page PDF file.

(Zec 9:10) And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.

You can not have “ends of the earth” on a globe. This verse indicates that the earth is flat.

(Pro 8:27) When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

You don’t use a compass on a globe but you do use it on a flat surface.

Click Here to get your PDF Bible study on the flat earth.

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How Does Atmosphere Stay on a Globe Earth

What amazing speed we're travelling at!

What amazing speed we’re travelling at!

Have you ever thought of how our atmosphere can stay on the earth? We take it for granted that it does but how can it in light of what we are told by astronomers? If the earth is round and turning on its axis at 1,000mph, how does the atmosphers stay attached to the earth? If that wasn’t bad enough, how can simple air stay on the earth going around the sun at 67,000mph? Then, we are told that the earth is going around the galaxy at an incrediable 500,000mph!

The fact is that air, or atmosphere in this case, is light. Thus, any speed – even the rotating of the earth – would make the atmosphere go off in space. Even if there was no speed to the earth, the atmosphere will drift away. If you were in a lab and you were to put some gas on a surface – no matter what kind of gas or mixture of gas – it will drift away. So, why doesn’t it happen to our atmosphere? There are actually two things, one is that there is a physical containment to prevent it from doing so. The other reason why the atmosphere can stay on the earth, is that it does not move through space (for the containment would fly off, too).

In a lab what we use is a glass bell-jar to hold the gas in place. For the earth, the containment is what the Bible calls the “firmament.” From the Vulgate firmamentum, which is used as the translation of the Hebrew raki’a . This word means simply “expansion.” It denotes the space or expanse like an arch appearing immediately above us. They who rendered raki’a by firmamentum regarded it as a solid body.

Not that the firmament is made of glass but it’s definitely of some material made by Yahweh, God. Glass is just stated above so we can get some understanding of it. So, we are contained within.

Many people – Christians and New Agers and Ufologists – would have you believe that could be invaded by aliens from another planet, or that some astroid could destroy life on earth. All this talk is nonsense it is to scare us into accepting a one world government with their one world religion. Have you ever noticed the scores of movies made in the last 60 years about invasion of earth from other beings of other planets? This is part of the long conditioning process that will soon be brought forth – known as “Project Bluebeam.”

In short, the atmosphere is proof that the earth is stationary and that there is a dome (firmament) above us.

 

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