How Something Can Be Made Real By Denying They Are Real

Posted on July 13, 2015 by revealed4you

How Aliens Are Made Real by NASA

The Illuminati, Jews, or whomever you believe are in control have a clever way of covering up the flat earth truth. Here is a short video of William Cooper (deceased Sept. 2001) of how he used to believe in aliens and why he doesn’t now.

William Cooper was once in naval intelligence and it was then that he had witnessed a UFO, or so he thought. Since then he had spoken at UFO conferences about his experience. It wasn’t until years later that he discovered the truth – that UFO don’t exist. (Let me clarify this, anything can be a UFO until it’s identified. Planes can be a UFO until they are identified as a plane. So, in this context, when I use the term “UFO” we are talking about space ships from other planets.)

Now, this may sound as a contradiction but just read a bit more…

I think that NASA and others had a dilemma years ago, and they came up with a plan on how to fool the people. Their real aim is to get the public to believe that there are billions of planets out there; that there are some that might contain intelligent life, and that we can travel to other planets. They thought (my theory, anyhow) that most people will not believe in aliens, so the best way to get most of them TO believe in aliens is to deny they exist.

Now, this may seem counter-intuitive but it’ll work if the plans are carried out right. What you do is:

1 – Outright deny they exist

2 – Allow some slipping of videos in the public domain that shows something flying by, etc. Allow other “slip-ups” such as the face on Mars. But still deny aliens exist.

3 – Let other talk about Abductions, Contacts, etc. Let a few of your selected people create popular websites on the extra-terrestrial/paranormal theme, etc.

4 – Allow main-stream media cover UFO stories as a “matter-of-fact” articles so people who only believe what main-stream media says can start thinking, “Maybe UFOs are real.” No more critising believers as they did in the past.

5 – Allow UFO documents held by the government come forth through “The Freedom of Information Act.” These documents will point out that UFO do exist (though they really don’t).

6 – Finally, have various government agencies, such as NASA, naval intelligence, FBI, etc. finally admit that we have been visited by others; there is life on other planets, etc. Thus, mission complete.

What Do I Mean By All of This?

Again, my theory is, that if this plan is followed, it’s long in planning – even over several generations – the majority of people will believe in something to be a total lie by FIRST DENYING it exists, then admitting it does exist.

To explain in more detail, one would deny such live outside out planet exists but let pressure build up, make some “controlled slip-ups” to get people to question what the government is doing. Make phony reports over the years that can be shown later to future generations. This way the public would think this is all genuine “After all, they are old documents and reports filed years ago, so this must be real.” This also gives the illuision that “the people are in control.”

Then, when NASA, for example, says that, “UFOs are real. Sorry, we covered it up as we thought you couldn’t take truth back then, but now we feel you need to know; it’s a matter of national emergency.” What purpose does this serve to say all this? I think it severs several agendas, such as:

Justification of NASA

Justification of huge defense spending

Bringing in a One World Government (ZOG)

International Banking

Taxing the people

Controlling the people

Covering up the fact that the earth is flat, with a dome, and that planets don’t exist as we know them

Keeping people from believing in the Bible (which really is the number one thing that the rulers really want)

NASA and others realize that the people will soon wake up – after all it’s hard to keep faking space fligths, man-made satellites, pictures of other planets, landing on the moon, etc. They realize that people will wake up – as they are doing now. If too many wake up and pressure is put on the government that means that their multi-billion dollar budget they get each year from Congress will dry up immediately. The extremely wealthy within NASA don’t like this, so they have to keep the con game going, and by introducing the “alien factor” this will do it.

Once People Accept the Belief in Aliens

Once the people accept the belief in aliens – and it will look geniune because the government “finally admits” that it’s true – then the money will keep pouring in. After all, we now have to be protected by aliens. That means 100s of billions for defence, black ops projects, NASA, etc.

The bankers love this as this is how they make their money – through loans and interest on it.

“We must all pull together, we can’t be divided. The only way to fight this alien presense is by a One World Government.”

With increased spending, there are more taxes, with more taxes, that means less money for you, with less money for you means CONTROL.

With aliens from other planets, that means there must be other global planets and their star systems. This means that earth is a globe, too, and there there is no dome to prevent aliens from entering.

With the re-inforced belief that we are just one planet out of billions, people will remain agnostic, athiest or a member of some cult religion. These critics will continue to say, “How can you believe in the Bible when it says, ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes on Him shall not die but have ever-lasting life.’ Then what about all the other planets. If God has only one son, how can He send His son to other planets that have sin (surely their must be other planets with sin out of billions!). How do you explain this?”

This is what non-Christians will say and what will Christians answer? How can we be significate and special with God when there could be billions of other inhabitable planets out there?

Keeping the People From the Bible

The whole key, the real key to all this lie about the true nature of the earth is to keep the people from the Bible. Now, this may sound like I’m getting off the subject but I’m not. If the people are kept from believing in the Bible as the literal word of God – by whatever method that works – this means that the people will not look to the Bible for answers to everyday problems. The answers to problems like:

Health

Happiness

Propserity

Freedom

People will be looking to other man-made philosophies and modern-day New Age gurus for answers. They are turning to people like: Gregg Braden, David Icke, Jordon Maxwell, Deli Lama, etc.

Money is on most people’s minds and by not turning to the Bible – people will not know that God condems usury/interest. It is usury or interests (really one and the same) that is destroying economies like Greece, Spain, and indeed, the rest of the world. People who don’t believe in the Bible will not read the solution; when nations get themselves into debt like this (through unbiblical living) that such debt should be cancelled. That includes private, corporate and government.

One way to get people to turn to the Bible is through the flat earth truth. If you are familiar with the history of the flat earth, you’ll know that those of the late 19th and early 20th Century were Bible believes – you can read some of their booklets and pamphlets on this site.

In short, this is what I believe is going on with the “disclosure of aliens” and how it relates to the flat earth.

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Yahoo News UFO July 12

Posted on July 13, 2015 by revealed4you

There seems to be a trend now when main-stream news reports about UFOs. In the past there was denial and critical reports about the UFOs, now they just report it matter-of-factly. They don’t say anything negative like they did before.

Now, realizing that UFOs exist is part of the cover-up of the global earth belief, there is a reason why there is no negative reports now. It’s all part of Hegelian Dialectics. By eventually “coming clean” it will leave the public with a reinforced belief that there are planets out there, that there is life out there, which means that the planet is a globe as well as all other planets. It also gives the impression that the silent majority “won”. This will pacify the sheepeople and give them the illusion that they finally were able to get the government and military to come clean. Thus, we will continue to be “happy little slaves.” This is exactly what the real world leaders want – the ILLUSION that the people won. After all, NASA is an expert in keeping up the flat earth illusion to begin with. Gradually reporting about “UFO pictures” as a regular news story is all part of it. In fact, as of this writing (12 July, 2015), there were two UFO reports on main-stream Yahoo News and neither one of them were negative. This should tell you something!

What is strange about the photos in this article (click link below)? The UFO is blurry. And it looks like it is right above the ice or sea, so where is the shadow? The article and photo in the other Yahoo News item is the same. You almost never get a clear photo of a UFO. The one picture here can be made better with Photoshop.

Check out the full article here.

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The Film: Ancient Aliens Debunked

Posted on July 11, 2015 by revealed4you

For believers in the flat earth and the true nature of planets and stars, your next question might be, “What about extra-terrestrials (E.T.s) Here is a 3 hour 10 minute documentary on ancient aliens. Now, before you get upset and think that this is a cheap government hatchet job, consider this video first. Even if you don’t believe in all of it, there are many questions raised.

When the video talks about the Great Pyramid, doesn’t mean that man came up with the plans. Have you ever considered the plans were given to them by our Creator, God? After all, this is what God did with Noah – plans on building the Ark.

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Aliens Don’t Exist: Testimony by William Cooper

Posted on July 11, 2015 by revealed4you

Project Bluebeam

I agree up to the 9 minute mark. Then Bill talks about the types of government. But talking about the aliens, perhaps this is why, or one of the reasons why he was murdered by the US Government shortly after 9-11.

At one time Bill Cooper believed in UFOs when he was in Naval Intelligence and after he left. But it was years later that he learned the agenda of the US Government and that he was being used. Listen to what he said in this short video.

For more, check our next post…

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Questioning Previous Beliefs: Coral Castle

Posted on July 11, 2015 by revealed4you
The secret: block-and-tackle.

The secret: block-and-tackle!

  Here is something that I believed in, and that is how Coral Castle in Florida was made. Listening to Jeff Rense years ago, he had a guest that talked about this. He theorized that it was made with some ancient knowledge like they used in Egypt to build the Great Pyramid. This guy had the ability to lift heavy blocks of coral in place. There was also talk by this guest that Alien knowledge was used. This, along with 100 others articles help create the existence of Aliens in my mind. Of course, IF there were billions of other planets out there, it’s only normal to assume that there is other life out there and that a few of them travelled to planet earth. But if we are the only ones here, then who could travel to visit us? (With the exception of angels, of course.)

Believing in the flat earth, I started to questions Aliens (ETs), as I know the only place outside of the earth and the dome is Heaven.

This video is made up, in part of the builder of Coral Castle – old footage. Here is proof how those blocks, some weighing in at 10 tons were moved. You’ll also learn that this very same, NON-SECRET, method is used today.

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Scientific Arguments for Geocentricity

Posted on July 10, 2015 by revealed4you

Scientific Arguments for Geocentricity

http://jesus-is-lord.com/geocentr.htm

[Note: When I sent out an e-mail concerning geocentricity (see end of this page), I received a pretty hostile response from professing Bible believers though a handful were already aware of geocentrism. One of our readers, Chris, submitted the following information written by Malcom Bowden.]

Update from BiblicalScholarship.net concerning geocentricity–

The simple subsistence farmer with God on his side and a strong ox to plow his fields is far better off than an educationally deceived, pleasure-loving American who sees the sun rise and says that it only appears to do so. Even professed Christians walk around with this heliocentric deception– in spite of scriptures such as Isaiah 38:8 that clearly teach that the sun moves. It is the earth that stands still. To most of us, this sounds so far out–but why? Our own eyes tell us that the sun rises and sets. We even say, “the sun is rising,” “the sun is setting”. Why does it sound so far out when someone says the sun actually has a circuit? It is because a spinning earth hurling through “space” (actually the firmament) like a ball shot out of a canon has been pounded into our heads from our youth. We succumbed to the teaching assault. We did not know any better. I believed it until someone showed me what the scriptures have to say about it–and then in a moment of time I was free from that deception. Are you like that? Where all you need is the scripture to quickly dismantle any lie that you have believed? whether that lie came from Mother, Father, teacher, textbook, dictionary, or preacher? Sun worship is not dead, it has just taken on more sophisticated forms. I’ve seen poetry by one of the early heliocentrists actually magnifying the sun (I read it in “Geocentricity” by Dr. Gerardus Bouw–Dr. Bouw is a former atheist with a Phd in Astronomy). Baal is not dead. He has a new generation of ignorant worshippers. Even the so-called “Christian” textbook publishers magnify heliocentrists like Nicolas Copernicus, Galileo, and Kepler but practically ignore Tycho Brahe–the Noble Dane and the “Prince of Astronomers”–his beliefs, his findings. Tycho Brahe created the greatest naked eye astronomical instrumentation known to mankind. He took astronomy to a whole new level. This fact is undisputed. He knew about Copernicus’ proclamations and rejected them on both scriptural and scientific grounds (for the record, the Tychonic model is not the same as the Ptolemaic system). King James delighted in the knowledge he learned in Tycho Brahe’s laboratory.

Unsurprisingly, heliocentrist experiments to prove the motion of the earth have FAILED. These experiments have been deliberately ignored by universities because they support geocentricity.

…But a disciple does not need all this proof. A disciple ONLY needs the scriptures to prove to him what is true. One day I was in an audience when Dr. Bouw pointed out specific scriptures concerning the motion of the sun. That was ALL I needed to hear to change my mind. God showed me all the rest of these facts later on. Many, many things have worked out like that in my life. Are you like that? Where if the scriptures say it, you will believe it even if the world thinks you are some kind of fool? The earth is NOT hurling through “space” reeling to and fro like some drunken man. We’ve been deceived, don’t know what the ecliptic is, cannot properly explain the seasons, and cannot tell the tropic of capricorn from the tropic of cancer because we don’t know what the sun is doing…But in places where real astronomy is necessary–like in aeronautics–the geocentric model is still used.

THE BASIC SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS

FOR GEOCENTRICITY

Malcolm Bowden

This subject generates far more heat than light in Christian circles. Invariably the reaction is emotional because Christians do not want to be tainted with the labels of “scientific ignoramus” and such like. I here set out the basic arguments that are given more fully in my “True Science Agrees with the Bible” – Appendix 10.

(1) BIBLICAL SUPPORT. There are many references to the sun “going down”, “arising” etc. NOT ONCE does the Bible ever refer to the earth rotating. Those who say that the Bible is only recording the “appearance” of the movement of the sun–

(a) are having to ADD to the most obvious meaning of the understanding of the Bible passage and

(b) are adopting the same position as liberal critics who have tried to destroy the Bible by saying that many of the sayings of Christ were “adapted to the simple understanding and low education of His hearers” and that we are more educated today to correct what he said – or such like. The Bible is true in its normal sensible understanding of its statements. We say sensible because we do not literally interpret what are clearly allegories and metaphors – this is usually used by critics to ridicule Bible believers.

(2) THE SEQUENCE OF CREATION. There is a major Biblical problem facing Christian heliocentrists. The sun is not referred to until Day 4. Most contend that it was created on Day 1 but only became visible on Day 4 so that they can have the earth going round the sun from the very first day of its creation. The problem is that the same word is used for the creation of the sun as for other material or animals in Genesis 1. “Bara” and “Asah” are both used for creation and there is no distinction between creation from nothing and creation from previous created material. Both words are used of Man’s creation. To say that the sun had already been created before day 4 is to twist the scriptures beyond acceptability in this one specific case to save the heliocentric position – and Hebrew scholars agree. If this interpretation is used in this one instance, why is it not used for all the other verses in Genesis. It would make nonsense of the whole record of events.

So the Hebrew insists that the sun was created on Day 4. How then did the earth rotate around a non-existent sun for three days? And when the sun was created on Day 4, did God give the earth a jolt and send it on its circular route around the sun? Surely the most obvious explanation is that the earth was created FIRST of all the universe – as the Bible says – and the universe rotated around it – with all the planets created later on Day 4. How this could take place scientifically we examine below.

(3) SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS. Most scientists know about the Michelson-Morely experiment – that failed to detect any movement of the earth round the sun. This had to be overcome so the Fitzgerald-Lorentz shortening of the apparatus was proposed, and eventually the paradoxical Relativity Theory was invented by Einstein to overcome this problem. However, there are three other experiments that have been deliberately ignored by universities because they support geocentricity –

(a) The Michelson-Gale experiment (Reference – Astrophysical Journal 1925 v 61 pp 140-5 – I forgot to put this reference in my book!) This detected the aether passing the surface of the earth with an accuracy of 2% of the speed of the daily rotation of the earth! Thus, the Michelson-Morely experiment detected no movement of the earth around the sun, yet the Michelson-Gale experiment measured the earth’s rotation (or the aether’s rotation around the earth!) to within 2%! This surely speaks volumes for geocentricity.

(b) “Airey’s failure” (Reference – Proc. Roy. Soc. London v 20 p 35). Telescopes have to be very slightly tilted to get the starlight going down the axis of the tube because of the earth’s “speed around the sun”. Airey filled a telescope with water that greatly slowed down the speed of the light inside the telescope and found that he did not have to change the angle of the telescope. This showed that the starlight was already coming in at the correct angle so that no change was needed. This demonstrated that it was the stars moving relative to a stationary earth and not the fast orbiting earth moving relative to the comparatively stationary stars. If it was the telescope moving he would have had to change the angle.

(c) The Sagnac experiment (Reference – Comptes Rendus 1913 v157 p 708-710 and 1410-3) Sagnac rotated a table complete with light and mirrors with the light being passed in opposite directions around the table between the mirrors. He detected the movement of the table by the movement of the interference fringes on the target where they were recombined. This proved that there IS an aether that the light has to pass through and this completely destroys Einstein’s theory of Relativity that says there is no aether. It is for this reason that this experiment is completely ignored by scientists. More recently Kantor has found the same result with similar apparatus.

All these experiments are never taught at universities, so consequently, scientists, including most Christian creationists, are ignorant of this evidence for geocentricity. Is it any wonder, therefore, that Christian geocentrists find their most vociferous opponents are fellow Christian creationists to whom geocentricity comes as a shock. They do not want to be tarred with such a heretical brush that will only increase the great ridicule they are already receiving for their stance against evolution?

THE ROTATION OF THE UNIVERSE

How can the universe rotate so rapidly without disintegrating? There is growing evidence that the aether has “Planck density” – it is extremely dense and the sun and planets are like corks in very dense water comparatively. This whole universe sweeps round the earth because otherwise it would collapse in on itself due to its density. The mechanics of this system forces the other planets etc. to describe ellipses in their orbit around the sun. Ernst Mach proposed that it is the weight of the stars circling the earth that drags Foucault pendulums around, creates Coriolis forces in the air that give the cyclones to our weather etc. Barbour and Bertotti (Il Nuovo Cimento 32B(1):1-27, 11 March 1977) proved that a hollow sphere (the universe) rotating around a solid sphere inside (the earth) produced exactly the same results of Coriolis forces, dragging of Foucault pendulums etc. that are put forward as “proofs” of heliocentricity! This paper gives several other confirmations of the superiority of the geocentric model.

Thus, there is evidence that the earth is NOT moving around the sun, but either the aether is moving around the earth carrying the planets with it, or the earth is spinning on its axis. The most likely model is that the aether is rotating around the earth as calculations show that if it did not, it would rapidly collapse upon itself. [OUR NOTE: THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT MENTION THE FIRMAMENT. GOD SET THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS IN THE FIRMAMENT OF THE HEAVEN. THE FIRMAMENT IS A DIVIDER OF WATERS (SEE DAY TWO IN GENESIS CHAPTER 1). IT IS FIRM. THE AETHER MR. BOWDEN DESCRIBES MAY ACTUALLY BE THE FIRMAMENT.]

Malcolm Bowden.

25.9.99

My books are available from UK Christian bookshops. Distributor Evangelical Press. In the USA, all are available from The Berean Call, Box 7019,Bend, Oregon 97708: Tel; 800 937 6638 FREE

Note: I haven’t read Mr. Bowden’s book [may be here–http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bowdenmalcolm/b4trusc3.htm%5D, but Chris has this to say:

This book is really good and goes into things that we are not normally told. For example the theory of relativity was promoted partly because of the inability of experiments to prove that the earth moved. Bowden also notes that to hold a geocentric position is to open oneself up to abuse even from creationists who will think that you are discrediting the whole argument.

The other thing that he discusses which is fascinating is the idea that the speed of light may not be a constant, but may have slowed down over the last 6000 years or so since creation which would explain a lot of the facts that scientists throw our way.

The following is the e-mail I sent out to my e-mail list. After the responses to this e-mail I came up with a new title for myself, “A fool for Christ’s sake”. I’ll be a fool for truth’s sake. As Isaiah says, truth is fallen in the street. I won’t pass it by, I’ll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.

The following is just a brief portion of an old email–

[Reminder: this list is for Bible-believing Christians.]

Dear Friends:

Greetings in the name of the ONLY wise God and Saviour Jesus Christ.

A brother recently wrote asking me about geocentricity. I just learned about it myself last year…

***What is geocentricity?***

Simply put, geocentricity says the earth is the center of the universe, not the sun. The sun revolves around the earth, not the earth around the sun. I know that you did not learn this in public school, but this is what the Bible teaches. [Do you believe the Bible, all of it?] Please read on.

***What do you know about this, Tracy?***

I learned about geocentricity last year at the King James Bible conference. Dr. Gerardus Bouw, a [professed] Bible-believing astronomer [I later read his comments spoken at a Catholic conference where he said that the Roman Catholic Douay Rheims Version of the Bible and the Authorized King James Bible were on the same level] told us attendees all about it. I’m going to break it down for you the way Dr. Bouw broke it down for us… [end of excerpt]

Dear Reader, do you believe EVERYTHING the Bible says?

Assuming the answer to this question is yes, let me ask you some questions from some scriptures–

1. In Joshua 10:13, the children of Israel are avenging themselves on their enemies. The Bible says that THE SUN STOOD STILL and hasted not to GO DOWN about a whole day.

Friends, according to the science text books (including the so-called “Christian” ones, the sun does NOT go down, the earth turns. The Bible says that the sun goes down. Man says the sun does not go down. So now what? What do you believe in? IN YOUR OWN BRAIN, WHICH ONE DO YOU BELIEVE–THE BIBLE OR MAN? NEXT, A YES OR NO QUESTION–DOES THE SUN CIRCUIT THE EARTH, YES OR NO?

2. Isaiah 38:8 says THE SUN RETURNED ten degrees by which degrees it was GONE DOWN.

In this case, did the sun really GO BACK ten degrees or was the shadow on the sun dial just an optical illusion?

3. This one is a showstopper. It comes from Malachi 4 the last chapter of the Old Testament. It would be about 400 years before God spoke to Israel through John the Baptist. Malachi 4:2

“But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE with healing in his wings…”

Look at this again. Notice how “Sun” has a capital “S”. This obviously refers to the Lord Jesus Christ. HE DID ARISE with healing in his wings. Notice how it does not say “Son”, it says, “Sun”. If the “sun” DOES NOT rise, does this mean that THE SON did not rise? HE DID RISE AND SO DOES SUN. IT IS NO ILLUSION. IT IS EXACTLY ACCORDING TO WHAT YOUR OWN EYEBALLS SEE EVERYDAY YOU LOOK OUTSIDE.

***What does all this mean?***

It means that once again we’ve been lied to. Ever heard of the “Copernican revolution?” Copernicus is the guy who came up with the “heliocentric” model that we use today–the idea that the earth revolves around the sun.

There is a lot of interesting information concerned with the false science associated with the heliocentric model. But it will have to be reserved for another time, Lord willing.

In the mean time you can check out http://www.biblicalastronomer.org. Dr. Bouw who uses a modified Tychonic model to explain how the solar system works.

Just like with evolution, there are many things that cannot be explained with the heliocentric model. I’ll warn you that this area of astronomy can get quite technical and mathematical. I’m no expert…

I recently heard someone say, “Science blew away western religion.” [When people say things like this they are oftentimes talking about heliocentricism and evolution.] This is how many look at the Copernican revolution false science with it’s heliocentric model (not to mention Darwinian evolution). This is how the Encyclopedia Americana looks at it too (emphases ours)–

“This sharp separation between heaven and earth was basic in the view of the universe that was accepted by Copernicus’ contemporaries. Copernicus comprehended the TRUE nature of the earth. He fully understood that it is a planet revolving about the sun, in the company of other planets. Therefore, like its fellow planets, it too is a heavenly body. Since the earth itself is in the heavens, the contrast between heaven and earth VANISHED, being REPLACED BY THE MODERN CONCEPT OF SPACE.”

What does Genesis 1:1 say? In the beginning God created the HEAVEN AND THE EARTH. The encyclopedia says this distinction VANISHED with Copernicus. See what I mean?

The Encyclopedia Americana goes on to say in no uncertain terms that geocentric model was an error. In other words, the Bible is in error. They are the ones in error because they are lying against the Bible. [Note: THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HEAVEN AND EARTH ALSO SHOWS THAT HEIGHT AND DEPTH ARE A CREATED THING WHICH CAN BE FURTHER SEEN IN THE SCRIPTURES WHERE THEY SAY THINGS LIKE HEAVEN FOR HEIGHT AND EARTH FOR DEPTH.]

My friends, I know this is a radical concept but don’t believe everything science tells you. They make a liar out of God! With the Copernican revolution all of a sudden not only did the Bible lose its authority in science but in morals and other areas as well. It was, and is, looked upon as unreliable.

I am looking at a magazine ad right now (a free magazine from the grocery store with recipes). It has on it, a picture of the solar system with the caption, “The Geocentric System” (earth at the center). It says,

“Five hundred years ago, the sun was thought to revolve around the earth. People DID NOT KNOW then what we know now. Truths change.”

No they don’t. TRUTH NEVER CHANGES. Truth is absolute. God knew exactly what he was saying when he told us the sun arises and goes down, he made it. This ad was by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. In this ad, they say [ that God’s word is the product of ignorant men–that is a lie. People who believe their lies are the ones that are ignorant]. The Lord gave me this ad maybe one or two days after that brother asked me about geocentricity.

There was a gentleman named Sir Fred Hoyle. He was knighted for his cosmological and astronomical prowess. He said this–

“We know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and a geocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such a difference has NO physical significance.”

The geocentric model is not unscientific, it is correct. Unsurprisingly, [it] explains many of the phenomena that heliocentricists can’t figure out.

Here are dozens of verses that say that the sun moves. Do you [really] believe the Bible?

Genesis 15:12 And when the sun was GOING DOWN… 15:17 …the sun WENT DOWN… 19:23 The sun was RISEN UPON THE EARTH… 28:11 …the sun was SET… 32:31 …the sun ROSE upon him

Exodus 22:3 If the sun be RISEN upon him… 22:26 …the sun goeth DOWN:

Leviticus 22:7 And when the sun is DOWN…

Numbers 2:3 And on the east side toward the RISING of the sun

Deuteronomy 11:30 …by the way where the sun goeth DOWN 23:11 …when the sun is DOWN… 24:13 …when the sun GOETH DOWN… 24:15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go DOWN upon it…

Joshua 8:29 …as soon as the sun was DOWN… 10:13 And the sun STOOD STILL, and the moon stayed…So the sun STOOD STILL in the midst of heaven, and HASTED NOT TO GO DOWN about a whole day.

Judges 5:31 …but let them that love him be as the sun when he GOETH FORTH in his might. 8:13 And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun was UP, 9:33 And it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is UP.. 14:18 And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day before the sun WENT DOWN… 19:14 …the sun went down upon them

2 Samuel 2:24 …the sun WENT DOWN… 3:35 …till the sun be DOWN. 23:4 …when the SUN RISETH…

2 Chronicles 18:34 the time of the sun GOING DOWN he died.

Psalms 50:1 …RISING of the sun unto the GOING DOWN thereof. 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his GOING DOWN. 104:22 The sun ARISETH… 113:3 From the RISING of the sun unto THE GOING DOWN of the same the LORD’s name is to be praised.

Ecclesiastes 1:5 The sun also ARISETH, and the sun GOETH DOWN, and HASTETH to his place where he AROSE.

Isaiah 38:8 …So the sun RETURNED ten degrees, by which degrees it was GONE DOWN. 41:25 from the RISING of the sun 60:20 Thy sun shall no more GO DOWN; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself…

Jeremiah 15:9 her sun is GONE DOWN…

Daniel 6:14 …he laboured till the GOING DOWN of the sun to deliver him.

Amos 8:9 I will cause the sun TO GO DOWN at noon…

Jonah 4:8 And it came to pass, when the sun did ARISE…

Micah 3:6 the sun shall GO DOWN over the prophets…

Nahum 3:17 …when the sun ARISETH…

Habakkuk 3:11 The sun and moon STOOD STILL in their habitation…

Malachi 1:11 For from the RISING of the sun even unto the GOING DOWN of the same 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE

Matthew 5:45 …he maketh his sun to RISE…

Mark 1:32 And at even, when the sun did SET…

Luke 4:40 Now when the sun was SETTING…

Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun GO DOWN upon your wrath:

James 1:11 For the sun is no sooner RISEN…

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Celestial Chambers and the Heaven of Heavens

Posted on July 10, 2015 by revealed4you

While it is true that the Hebrews had a rough understanding of the circulation of water vapor and the source of rain in the clouds (Job 36:27, 28), they also conceived of mechanisms in heaven whereby God could directly induce great atmospheric catastrophes. Obviously the clouds themselves could not have held enough water for the Great Flood, so “all the foundations of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened” (Gen. 7:11; cf. Mal. 3:10). This is also further proof that the earth was surrounded by watery chaos. The Old Testament talks about divine “chambers” (heder) in heaven and this notion seems to have been borrowed from Canaanite mythology. Marvin Pope has discovered a direct parallel to the Ugaritic God ‘El who “answers from the seven chambers,” usually through the media of the seven winds.(38)

Significantly, we find that Yahweh “brings forth the wind from his storehouses” (Ps. 135:7); and “from the chamber comes the tempest, from the scatter-winds the cold” (Job 37:9, AB). From Amos we learn that God “builds his upper chambers in the heavens” (9:6), and the psalmists speak of God storing “his upper chambers” with water so that he can water the mountains (Ps. 104:3, 13; cf. Ps. 33:7). Job gives us the most detailed account of God’s chambers: “Have you entered the storehouses of the snow, or have you seen the storehouses of the hail, which I have reserved for the time of trouble, for the day of battle and war?” (38:22). We must not forget that “Yahweh is a warrior” (Ex. 15:3) and it is he, for example, who caused the violent storm which destroyed the Canaanite army of Sisera (Jdgs. 5). In the noncanonical Ecclesiasticus we discover that Yahweh has more than storms in his chambers: “In his storehouses, kept for proper time, are fire, famine, disease” (39:29). Dillow argues convincingly that Yahweh’s storehouses of rain are not just clouds or ocean basins; rather, they most definitely have a celestial location.(39)

In the diagram at the head of the chapter, the area above the “ocean of heaven” is labeled the “heaven of fire.” I have not been able to verify this, and it seems that it must be labeled “heaven of heavens” instead. Again various levels of heaven are not unique to the Hebrews for we can read that the Vedic seer conceived of at least “three superior realms of heaven” (Rig-veda 8.41.9). One psalmist clearly distinguishes between the two levels: “You highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens” (Ps. l48:4). This area is exclusively Yahweh’s domain: “The heaven of heavens belongs to Yahweh…” (Ps. 115:16, AB); “To the Lord your God belong heaven and the heaven of heavens…” (Deut. l0:l4); and “heaven and highest heaven cannot contain thee” (1 Kgs. 8:27). These passages have led to endless speculation about the various levels of heaven. Creationist Henry D. Morris claims that there are three heavens: (1) atmospheric heaven (Jer. 4:25); (2) sidereal heaven (Is. 13:10); (3) and the heaven of God’s throne (Heb. 9:24).(40) The heaven of heavens mentioned above is probably not Morris’ third heaven, because it was created (Ps. 148:4) and it seems that God does not dwell there (1 Kgs. 8:27). Commentators will probably never be able to sort out many of these obscure passages.

In closing this chapter, something must be said about the process of “demythologizing.” This word, made popular by Rudolph Bultmann, has become a dirty word among conservative Christians. It is clear, however, that demythologizing happened with the writing of the Old Testament, and it is occurring at another level within evangelical hermeneutics itself. Recall that James Barr’s theory is that fundamentalists take the Bible literally only when it fits the doctrine of inerrancy. They do not hesitate to naturalize biblical events when they must be harmonized with historical or scientific facts. When Dillow claims, and rightly so, that Moses wrote of a sovereign Yahweh completely in charge of a depersonalized nature, he is conceding that the Hebrew writers, as with our example of the Sumerian chronologies, were historicizing myth. But Dillow and other evangelicals are also demythologizers in disguise, for they want us to believe that a heavenly ocean and the flood it caused are facts and not myths. This is demythologizing at its worst and the evangelical rationalists are its champions.

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You Are Being Lied to About Satan, Devils and Hell

Posted on July 8, 2015 by revealed4you

The Biblical Truth About Satan, Lucifer, Devils and Hell

There is no hell, at least in the sense that you think of and of what most people think of. Many Churches will have you believe that “If you don’t believe in Christ, you’ll go to hell and burn,” or say something along those lines. Well, what kind of loving God is that. When people hear that there is “a hell fire and this is where non-believers burn forever,” this is what will drive people away from God. This sounds like what the anti-Christs will want people to hear. And, this is how this, “Satan, devil, hell-fire” got started.

Now, read what the Bible says about: Satan, Lucifer, devils and hell. After your read this, then make up your mind.

Give the Devil His Due

By Pastor Sheldon Emry

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We Didn’t Land on the Moon

Posted on July 7, 2015 by revealed4you

The Moon Landing Hoax

In case you don’t know by now, we didn’t go to the moon – not in 1969 and not since then. This is important to know if you are studying the flat earth. Some people may think, “OK, the earth is flat but the other planets are spheres.” They are not. In fact, there are no other planets – what you see is just lights in the sky. But this is another whole story that will have to wait for another time.

There is the firmament that keeps man from flying out in “space.” The fact that there is just the weight of an object that keeps people and all things in place and not gravity, it would be impossible to land on a globe – unless you landed on the North Pole of that planet or satellite.

Before you judge, watch this short but very informative video entitled: “A funny thing happened on the way to the moon.”

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Belligerent Astronauts

Posted on July 7, 2015 by revealed4you

Do a YouTube search on “belligerent astronauts.” you may have seen this before, as this video was made by the guy who has a website called, something funny happened on the way to the moon, or words to that affect. For those who didn’t see that video, it’s about this guy who interviewed the Apollo 11 astronauts and they were asked to put their hand on the Bible to swear that they went to the moon – NONE of them did?

Now this is strange, if they were not Christians, what difference would it make. If they were Christians, many would still lie because they were not in a court room, there was no possibility of paying a fine or going to prison. This question was asked in either a public place (not in a court room) or in their very homes or offices. After wall, why wouldn’t these Christians lie, as they had been lying for years already to keep their story up. So, why didn’t they just lie again? UNLESS…

Unless they were told or perhaps witnessed in one of their test flights of the existence of God or of the existence of something that is physically made – such as the firmament of Heaven. Did they not swear on the Bible because they know that someone is physically looking down on them; that Heaven it laterally above their heads a few thousand miles? In short, did someone or something scare them?

Just a thought to keep in mind.

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