The Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make?

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Some people have the attitude, after finding out about the flat earth, say, “What difference does it make?” Others may say, “My life won’t change.”

Let me address the first question. To have an attitude of, “What difference does it make,” is wilfully being ignorant. It’s like some young person saying, “What difference does it make if I know about geography or not?” Unfortunately, there are many young people who can’t place major countries on a world map. They think that Australia is in South East Asia and the Ukraine is in the Middle East. The fact is, that there are many people – of all ages – DO want to know where countries are; so is the case with people wanting to know the nature of the earth and what is beyond it.

As to the second question, “My life won’t change,” is true, in a way. People who do believe in the flat earth still go about their business the same way: they go to work, they go home and spend time with their families, they have the same problems, etc. Some might have the attitude of, “With all the problems in the world, why should I want to know, much less study, about the flat earth?”

There is an age-old saying that people who don’t want to educate themselves, who don’t care about major things in their lives are easy to control; they are easy to make slaves of. This is exactly what the world leaders want – they want people who are dumb, or at least have apathy. It is these people who are usually slaves and don’t even know it; it’s these people who vote for the same damn politicians time and time again. It’s also these type of people who have problems in life and don’t know why; these people are usually frustrated about why, for example, we have inflation, depressions, mass illegal immigration and 101 other problems in society. These people, who wilfully remain ignorant in certain areas of life – because they “don’t have the time” – are those who have the most problems in their personal lives. They also get very frustrated when they do see problems on the national level and wonder, “WHY?” Well, if you are like this, maybe learning more about the flat earth is just what you need!

“How does the flat earth relate to my problems and to the national problems?”

Let’s assume you are like millions of other people who don’t know anything about the flat earth and you have little knowledge about Christianity. When you study the flat earth from the secular side, you’ll come across not only the true nature of the earth, sun and moon, you’ll also be led to very old descriptions of the earth, sun, moon and stars in the Bible. When you follow these verses, you may think, “Why haven’t we been told about this before? How did the ancients know? And, why, in this modern age with all the technology we have, that we are NOT told the truth now? What is the purpose of all of this?”

If you have questions like this, there is a reason. There have been a group of people since recorded history who wants to take away your birth-right and with a birth-right there are blessings. By continuing your research from the flat earth to other topics, you’ll see a trend, a trend that it’s the same people, same secret organisations that want to have total control over you.

Think of this, with the nature of the shape of the earth being concealed – along with many other things – this is something that is huge (no pun intended). With something like the geography of the earth being concealed; with the shape of the earth being lied about, ask yourself, “What else are they hiding? What other things of importance are being hidden that would benefit us?”

As you continue your research, you’ll find that there are many, many things that we are being lied to. So, without getting into all the other topics, research one topic at a time, study it, consider it. Then ask yourself, “What is the motive?”

In short, learning about the lies concerning earth, other heavenly bodies as well as other related topics to space, you’ll be on your way to learning how you can improve the quality of your life. Won’t you join me on this journey?

“You shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.”

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Where Do Space Rocket Go?

You may have asked, “But what about all those rocket with astronauts and satellites on them – didn’t they go into outer space?” Though the rockets are real, they did not go to where you thought they went – check out this video and find out more…

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Flat Earth Eric Dubay and The Sage of Quay

Published on 25 Jun 2015

Tonight my very special guest is Eric Dubay. Eric is one of the leading voices behind the revival of the Flat Earth theory. He currently lives in Thailand where he teaches Yoga and Wing Chun which is the traditional Chinese martial art of self defense. Eric has also written a number of books one of which is The Flat Earth Conspiracy where Eric explains how the world has been systematically brainwashed and indoctrinated for centuries into believing the greatest lie of all time – that the Earth is a spinning globe. Our discussion was wide ranging as we talk through many of the proof points supporting the Flat Earth model as well addressing some the arguments used by heliocentrists, or the globe believers, in their attempts to debunk the flat Earth theory. I strongly urge everyone to listen with an open and critical mind. I believe you’ll find the topic extremely interesting and not as cut and dry as you might think.

Good video along with this interview.

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Hiding God by Mark Sargent

Hiding God by Mark Sargent

This is good as Mark poses the question, did the astronauts see the handy work of God?

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Yahoo News: Alien Life Possible

Yahoo New: Alien Life Possible

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And how the globe shape of the earth fits in to this.

Here is a news item for Yahoo News that appeared today (July 2) about “aliens” that look like us, according to an evolutionary biologist.

What is the media (instructed by the government) preparing us for? An alien invasion.? People who following the government false flag trail know that an “alien invasion” is a ‘card they have on the table.’

If you think this is all paranoia, consider this:

1 If you were to prepare the people of earth you would deny there are such things as alien

2 Then you would say that life on other planets is possible

3 Then you would admit to sightings

4 Then evidence they are here

5 Finally, you’ll have an invasion of some kind and the only way to fight this is, “we all have to come together, be willing to be put in gulag camps (for our own protection, of course), and support the one-world government in whatever they do – BECAUSE we have a common enemy now.

To read the original news article, Click Here.

How the globe earth conspiracy fits in

One reason why the globe earth false belief fits in and serves the purpose of the Zionist New World Order is, that with the globe earth, the universe filled with globe planets, and with billions of galaxies, it would only be logical to think of life on other planets. It would also be logical to think that some of them are more advanced than we are and can travel vast distances via other means in order to get here. After all, this is what I believed, and I believed all of this on the premise that what NASA and astronomers have been telling us about the universe and where we live. BUT, now that I know better, I also know – as well as all flat earthers – that there are no other planets, thus no intelligent life that can travel here. I also came to know that God and Heaven is literally a few thousand miles above us (perhaps closer). With this knowledge it changes your whole outlook on life. It also makes you aware of other false flag events, and lies that the government and media is telling us in general.

Therefor, it’s vital that the governments of the world want its citizens to continue to believe in a universe with billions of galaxies, planets and even entertain the possibility of other intelligent life out there – as it SERVES THEIR PURPOSE.

So, will you help us to blow the cover off of this lie by doing what you can to get the truth out? Join us today!

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The Creator Wants Us to Believe We Live on a Globe is Not True

Mark Sargent made a comment about 40-43 minutes in that we are to think that the world is a globe so the people don’t seek for an escape.

I disagree with him on this point for two reasons. Firstly, there are no creators but a Creator, whose name is Yahweh, God. Secondly, God told His people of the nature of the earth in the Bible. Here are just a couple of verses:

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1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “…who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast…”

The most striking feature of the Old Testament world is the “firmament,” a solid dome which separates “the waters from the waters” (Gen. 1:6). The Hebrew word translated in the Latin Vulgate as firmamentum is raqia’ whose verb form means “to spread, stamp or beat out.” The material beaten out is not directly specified, but both biblical and extrabiblical evidence suggests that it is metal. A verb form of raqia’ is used in both of these passages: “And gold leaf was hammered out…” (Ex. 39:3); and “beaten silver is brought from Tarshish” (Jer. l0:9). There are indeed figurative uses of this term. A firmament is part of the first vision of Ezekiel (1:22,26), and the editors of the evangelical Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament cite this as evidence that the Hebrews did not believe in a literal sky-dome. It is clear, however, that Ezekiel’s throne chariot is the cosmos in miniature, and the use of raqia’ most likely refers to a solid canopy (it shines “like crystal”) than to a limited space.

Now, these verses, and others, plainly tell us that the earth is fixed, it doesn’t move AND that there is a firmament above the earth one one below (that divides the waters from the waters). If what Mark said is true, God would not have given indications that there is a firmament!

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The concealment came because of evil or just plane ignorant men – not what the Creator did.

Another point to consider is, that God gave us intelligence, the ability to observe and use logic. A case in point is that “water seeks its own level,” which means that it would be impossible to live on a globe. That is why the ancients believed in the flat earth. Of course, they didn’t know about how the dome looks like or even if there was one – with the eception of the ancient Israelites and those who became Christian; we were told that there is a firmament. We were also told about the earth.

Mark makes his claim that “they” meaning the “creators or Creator,” (he uses both words), hid it from us because of the way the Antarctic is with its high ice walls and being cold there. This is silly to say that, the reason why is, that this is exactly what you need in order to have a flat earth that contains water. Water, as we all know, is needed for life. We also know that to make a globe for earth or even anything remotely resembling a ball, would be impossible because water seeks its own level. A flat earth with oceans on it would run off the edge UNLESS it was surrounded by land to contain it.

In any swimming pool you have, the boarder around it rises higher to contain the water. In lakes and rivers you have the land, which is higher, to contain it. So, with the ocean you’ll need a land mass that rises up that completely surrounds it in order to keep the water in. and, this is exactly what we have – the Antarctic ice wall! You can Google this and see that the Antarctic is surrounded by an ice wall that rises 100 – 200 feet high above sea level. In short earth has to be like a swimming pool that has a ledge higher than the water level.

With the Antarctic being far from the sun, it is also cold there. So, this is a natural thing to expect – ice and snow on the land. With the shape of the flat earth, you have this huge wall all the way around the Antarctic, which forms the edge of the earth. Therefore, no one falls off, no ships fall off, and sailing around the world is completely safe (as far as sailing off the earth is concerned). Therefore, it does not mean that God is hidding anything. It was man who came along and consealed the truth. But for anyone looking for the truth it’s in the Bible. And, there is no other religious book that has this information.

Contary to what Mark Sargent said, God knows that when the people know the true shape of the earth, it will bring His people closer to him. After all, what do you think would more likely make someone believe in God:

1 That Heaven is 50 tillion miles away; and from what point from the globe earth would that 50 tillions miles be? And, how much of an area would it be? What galaxy would it be in?

2 OR that Heaven is 3,000 miles right above your head – and that means EVERYBODY’S head!

Which of the two would you think that makes God personal; that He would have a personal interest in what you do? Would it be the 50 tillion miles or the 3,000 miles? The answer is obvious – the 3,000 miles which is up for everyone on a flat earth.

What would make people believe God that we are special to Him – when it’s just us on this flat earth or if there were a million other planets that has people on it? There is an old saying and it goes like this:

“There is no other place like this place, which is near this place, so this must be the place!”

After you know that the earth is not only flat, but there are no other planets out there, and that we are literally right under God’s feet, means that we can take the word of the Bible for the truth.

NASA and the astronomers contradicts everything the Bible says. It is THEM that want to turn us into a one world godless system and to do this is to make us think that we are one of 100 billion other planets out there, and it was us that evovled; and if there is a god, we are just one of billions of other planets with life on it. But with one earth out there, with God and the angles above, would make us read the rest of the Bible to see what else God wants us to do.

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Good and Bad Video of the Flat Earth

Good and Bad Video of the Flat Earth

Here is a good video about the flat earth by Eric Dubay. He points out some good information and is followed by the relevant video clips or photos. However, there is a bad section of this video (about 1 hour in) where Eric says that Christianity and Jesus is a myth like the other ancient religions; saying that Jesus is “a copycat saviour.” This is patently false and has been proven by others. But then, again, Eric doesn’t do the research into the Bible as he does with the flat earth.

The point I want to make is, that if you are sharing the flat earth truth, you have agnostics, and people from all religious beliefs come to this site and others like it. This also includes Christians. But with attacking, even subtly, turns Christians away. One thing that the knowledge of the flat earth does is, that for those who are Christians become stronger in their beliefs, and those that are not Christian, some of them become so, as the Bible makes more sense to them.

It seems that some people just don’t like the idea that more people will be converted to Christianity.

I posted this video here as 90-95% of it is good. For the claim that Christianity is like the other religions, Click Here to learn the truth about the “copycat saviour,” and Click Here to see a video on the same subject.

The flat earth video is below.

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Telling Others of the Flat Earth

Telling Others of the Flat Earth

I think that one of the best ways to tell others about the flat earth is, for example, say: “Do a search on YouTube with the words “flat earth” or “Flat earth clues,” or “flat earth eric dubay.”

This can already be printed on small piece of paper and handed to them. This would remind them what to look up and the words to search for.

Another example would be to have a website or blog address with information about the flat earth. This will have the relative articles and videos on it.

Making your own blog is good because the address you give could have information that does not give the best arguments for a flat earth.

This method of telling others is much better than a 5-10 minute talk or a talk that you don’t know all the details of – thus, not being able to convince them. Also, in a conversation you don’t have the pictures and videos to show them – no matter how well you know the subject.

This method of sharing the truth can be applied to any topic – just have something already printed to give them. Something even the size of a business card is good – it saves cost in printing, they are less likely to throw it out and you don’t have to carry a stack of flyers wherever you go.

To start the conversation, ask a question that stirs their curiosity – don’t start out by saying the earth is flat. This same approach should used on all controversial subjects. Just start out in an inquisitive manner – if they show no interest, then don’t continue. You could say, “Some people say, ‘If the earth is a globe, why don’t you see the curve on either end of the horizon.’” Then present another unsolved mystery, such as how can gravity even keep water on a curved surface,” etc.

Keep the conversation in the third person singular, this way it’s not you saying it.

Then end it with, “I found this website talking about this crazy idea and I can’t find anything wrong with it. Maybe you can? You might want to check it out yourself.” (Then hand him the card with the website address on it.)

You might have a little card printed with something like this:

Is the earth really travelling 67,000 mph around the sun as astronomers say?

Check out http://www.ChristianFlatEarthMinistry.wordpress.com

Or, you can make this card a bit better but also putting on a QR Code. This is like a bar code that people can scan with their smart phones. Once this is done, it will take them directly to the website.

I hope you have some ideas on how to share Bible truths as well as the Flat Earth truths with others.

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Would you tell others about the flat earth?

For purpose of illustration, let me talk about UFOs. It doesn’t matter if you believe in them or not, or if you once believed in them but you don’t now – this is just for purpose of illustration.

Say you don’t believe in UFOs and E.T.s and anyone who does, you think is crazy. In fact, you might have had to tell others that, as they explained their story to you. Then, one day you are out at night and on the way home, along a lonely road, there is a UFO off the side of the road. You stop your car, and observe it. Then you see a couple of “guys” out taking samples of the soil and plants. They notice you, quickly get in their space craft, take off slowly at first, then in a few sections they are out of sight.

The question is, would you tell others? Would you tell even your closest friends – knowing how you treated such believers before? Each person must make their own decision. You might tell others but as soon as you get too many looks like you are crazy, you shut up. Is this what you would do?

Now, relating this to the flat earth – previous to this year, you believed all your life that the earth is a globe and you believed all the others “facts” that astronomers have told us, such as the Sun is 93 million miles away, the Moon is about one quarter of a million miles away, that there are billions of suns and planets out there. You know that every source that people have, they are told that the earth is a globe. Sources such as: primary schools, universities, the media, NASA. And there is even Google, with the “photos” of the earth being round as well as other planets – as you do your search on the internet.

Then, one day you discover a website that said otherwise; you find on this website some videos of the flat earth. You are finally convinced. In your excitement you share it with your wife. If you are lucky, she agrees with you. But then you share it with others and they think you are nuts. They start telling others and you get a bad name around town. In your final decision, you decide to keep your mouth shut.

The question is, is this what you’d do? Or would you tell others regardless? It takes a strong person in their belief to continue to tell others. But you feel that you must, as you at least give them the opportunity to know the truth and it’s from there if they should run with the ball and tell others.

So, what have you done? Tell your story – or you are keeping quite. In fact, you are on this website as a secret viewer as you don’t want to be called a “ntter” or worse. The question is, how many others are like you out there? Maybe one day the government will wake up and find out that most of the public do believe in the flat earth. After all, they see the huge number of views that flat earth videos get. Although they (the real government leaders) know that YouTube and others are doing what they are being told and re-setting the numbers back. You, you Zionist dogs, know that millions of views have been on each of these videos. Thus, when will the day come when it is openly admitted that the earth is, indeed, a globe?

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100 Proofs From the Scriptures, part 1

100 HUNDRED PROOFS

FROM THE SCRIPTURES

Against the Teachings of Modern Science.

(Note: This is from an old book, date around the beginning of the 20th Century. People who believe in the flat earth back then were Christians. Others, who were not became Christians – sadly, this is not the case today. In fact, there are flat earth sites that don’t want to hear from Christians giving their testimony or how God gives us the true description of the earth, moon and stars.)

This booklet had to be retyped as the scanned copy I have is a poor quality. The comments are as it was written many years ago. Enjoy.)

1 – The Hebrew word, Bara, to create, which is making something out of nothing. In the beginning of time, before which all was eternity, God created the heavens and the earth, no evolution, no geological progression.

Creation was the work of the Divine Jehovah -God the Father being the architect and planner – God the Son executed, and carried it out as the Father’s Master Workman. God the Spirit breathed Life and Light upon all.

2 – When He set a circle upon the face of the deep, when He marked out the foundations of the earth; then was I by Him as a Master Workman – Prov. VIII 29-30

3 – It is He that sitteth upon the circle of the earth and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers. – Isa IV 22. And woe to the grasshopper that persists in contradicting the Arch-angel.

4 – Thou has established the earth, and it abideth, nay standeth – stands fast – Psalm CXIX 90

5 – For He hath founded it upon the seas, as established it upon the floods – Psalm XXIV 2

6 – Like the earth which He hath established for ever. – Psalm LXXVIII 69

7 – The Lord reigneth: the earth is also established that it cannot be moved. – Psalm XCIII 1. Not even by the modern astronomers.

8 – To Him that stretched (or laid out) the earth above the waters; for his mercy endureth for ever. – Pslam CXXXVI 6. Not doubled it up into a ball, to roll three ways at one time.

9 – He hath also established them for ever and ever; He hath made a degree which shall not pass. – Paslm CXLVIII 6

10 – The Jehovah by wisdom hath founded the earth. – Prov. III 19. Not cast it as a shot from a melting furnace.

11 – Who hath established all the ends of the earth. – Prov. XXX 44.

12 – God Himself, He hath established the earth, He created it not in vain, He formed it to be inhabited – Isa XLIV 18. When the earth was first created it was passable, habitable, and navigable in every inch of it – no curse then.

13 – He hath established the world by His wisdom; and hath stretched out the heavens by His discretion: parallel with the earth – Jer. X 12.

14 – The world also shall be established that it shall not be moved – Psalm XCVI 10. Dr Gratton Guinness sends it rolling on after it is a new creation. What folly.

15 – For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and He hath set the world upon them – I. Sam. II 8. The astronomers are learned enough to tell us that there is only an imaginary axis.

16 – Which shaketh the earth out of her place, and the pillars thereof tremble – Job IX 6. The earth has her place then, not her orbit, which would require no pillars.

17 – The earth and all the inhabitants thereof are dissolved; I bear up the pillars of it – Psalm LXXV 3. And will re-established it.

18 – And after these things, I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth – Rev. VII 1. What corners are there to a round ball?

19 – And the earth was without formGen. I 2. Not even globular. What a mistake!

20 – And God called the dry land earth; and the gathering together of the waters, He called the seas. What, not a globe in either case? Oh dear!

21 – While the earth remaineth, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease – Gen. VIII 22. Not while the earth revolveth, or travelleth, or is flying through space to please imagination.

22 – Then the earth shook and trembled – II Sam. XXII 8. But that she always should be flying through space 120 times swifter than a cannon ball, the prophet did not understand.

23 – The measure thereof is larger than the earth, and broader than the sea – Job XIX 9. The earht then is long not oblong, oval or globular.

24 – Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? Delcared if thou knowest it all – Job XXXVIII 18. Breadth, not circumference, mind.

25 – The Lord reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved – Psalm XCIX 1. That she would always be doing according to the astronomers. No need for a special order.

More will be added at time allows.

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