Earth Duplicate Clouds

Posted on October 6, 2015 by revealed4you
Spot the fakes.

Spot the fakes.

(Click on image to enlarge)

In this photo of the earth – which is suppose to be a photograph – see if you can spot the fakes. There are several different types of fakes here.

If you look SW of Mexico, you’ll see some clouds are identical. This would be impossible in nature. Sure you might find some similar but here they are right next to each other – and there are more than one set of them.

Another strange thing is, the hot spot that presumably is caused by the Sun (look in the Baja California area). This area is grey – so what in the hell is that?

Finally, look at the size of America in relation to the surface of the earth; look at South America and how huge that is. There would be no room for the rest of the continent much less for the Antarctic.

This is not a photo and it’s a bad computer generated image, too.

This is like a game with NASA: “Spot the fake,” or “How long does it take you to wake up?”

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The Size and Structure of the Universe According to the Bible

Posted on October 6, 2015 by revealed4you

The Size and Structure of the Universe According to the Bible and Non-Theoretical Science

Part II

http://www.fixedearth.com/size–structure-pt-2.html

Highly Reflective Water Crystals

Are the “Waters Above” the Biblical Firmament?

The part of the whole Biblical concept of the size and structure of the universe that stumped me the most involved the “waters above” the firmament. It seemed readily apparent that these waters not only could provide a reflective surface for all the stars below, but that; indeed, there could be no way that such reflection could be avoided.

Also, it seemed equally apparent that–given the enormous possibilities involved in the dispersion of those reflections–that some very great percentage of all the stars ever allegedly seen are really reflections… either of real stars or of other reflections. The effect of such an understanding upon the actual number of stars there are, and the corresponding dramatic shrinkage of the size of the universe could be missed by no one. Then, with corroborating evidence that star reflections are not only Biblically, but also scientifically capable of producing a viable model of the universe that would scrap all of modern cosmology since Copernicus, the true size of the universe could indeed be spectacularly sanforized and tailored to somewhat less than a radius of one light day…as we have already begun to see.

Fine, I thought. But how could the stars and their reflections always be where they actually are if they were reflected off of “water” …unless somehow the water was perfectly undisturbed? If, however, the water itself were perfectly still with the starry “stellatum” of the 3rd heaven in the firmament revolving nightly around the Earth and the “waters above” synchronously revolving with it, such a structure would definitely fit the Scriptures and would seem to satisfy all that is actually seen and known.

Yet, since only about 6000 stars can be seen with the naked eye in both hemispheres, and since it would be certain that these would be reflected off of those “waters above”, we would probably conclude that only one reflection per star would be produced off of water that is perfectly still. That would only give us 12000 points of light–half stars and half reflections–in the entire universe. Modern cosmology claims there are billions of galaxies with trillions of stars in each galaxy.

One may detect a slight discrepancy in those comparative numbers….

The obvious solution? Well, scoff at this or any other small number, of course!

But wait! What if the “science” behind those gazillions of stars is demonstrably built on observation denying assumptions at every step from the Copernican Model to the Big Bang Model?? [See: Assumptions] And what if occult math and fraudulent use of technology are shown to be behind every phony piece of Big Bang hype dosed out in all media? [See: Virtual Reality Fraud – NASAs Hanky-Panky – Redshift Fraud] And what if the long held secret is out that the entire Big Bang Paradigm is actually the fulfillment of a “creation” scenario” from ancient Rabbinic writings in the mystic Kabbala, a holy book of Pharisaic Judaism? [See: Kabbala 6 – NASAs Spirit.Roots] And what if the NASA-controlled space program is boldly designated “The Origins Program” devoted to “finding our cosmic roots”, i.e., devoted to spending billions of taxpayer’s money to promote factless extraterrestrial evolutionism? [See: NASAs Agenda] And what if a cadre of latter-day Saganite cyberpunks has admittedly turned computer-programmed space technology into a Virtual Reality video game that aids and abets the Kabbalic Kosmology?[See: Virtual Reality Fraud] And so what if the Biblical Model of a non-moving Earth fits all the observational and experimental evidence? [See: Size-Structure Pt 1]

So what??

Well, Kabbalic Kosmology masquerading as “science” is Biblically scheduled to get its mask ripped off “one hour” after a One World Government is seated (Rev. 17:12-14; 18:2; 13:2b-8), that’s so what…. It’s called “The Fall of Babylon”, i.e., “The Fall of Confusion” (Rev. 14:8; 17:5, 14, 18; 18:2, 4, 8-19).

The only thing holding the whole mountain of cosmological deceptions together is the belief that all of them are safe and secure because “science” has put the stars so far away from the Earth that even God couldn’t get them around nightly…as the Biblical Model and observation demand. Ipso facto, the Devil says smugly: ‘The Copernican foundation to all the rest of my deceptions can never be convincingly defeated and Bible credibility can never be restored. The hold that the Bible has on a dying generation of its faithful followers is doomed to collapse in short order, dragging Jesus and New Testament Christianity down with it!’ (This is the assessment of all attempts to expose and defeat the powerful forces upholding Satan’s Empire of Babylon in the world today as expressed in Revelation 18:7: “…for she [Babylon- Satan’s Empire] saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow”. And, even after Babylon is brought down – Rev. 17:14-18 – and regroups – R. 18:2 – and becomes overtly Satan-worshipping – R. 13:4 – there is only defiance – v.4).

Now, although the geocentric Machian Model of the “solar” system and the universe may be just as good mathematically as the current Kabbalic Model, it will never attract more than a few windmill tilters as long as a 15 billion light year thick universe holds the fort and prevents an intelligibly small universe model from getting those stars close enough to go around nightly as observed. A demonstrably viable “Small Universe Model” would change all that very quickly. It would, in effect, remove the only objection to validating the non-moving Earth model and would pull the plug on the entire Kabbalic Kosmos and all the Bible-bashing lies riding on it.

With that said, let’s return to a closer look at the Biblical “waters above” the 3rd heaven of the firmament and see just how star “reflections” could be counted as trillions of stars and how computerized slight-of-hand is fueling the fantasy of a 15 billion light year thick universe…and thus promoting Kabbalic Big Bangism. We can start by taking a look at a few examples of “Water Crystals”:

The first row of enhydro (water within) crystals can be found on pages 1 and 2 at this web site: http://www.kacha-stones.com/crystals_enhydros_himalayan.htm

The second row of water crystals comes from the Adhikara Art Gallery and can be viewed at this web site: http://www.akhikara.com/pagine/water-6.htm (& 3.htm-8.htm).

There are hundreds of other such pictures on the net. Each one has a unique geometrical design, and each one is not ice, but nevertheless is water in solid form.

Obviously, the Designer behind such designs can do anything! (The argument that no such Designer exists is over [See: Atheism – ID Pitfalls]). When the Bible describes the structure of the universe as containing “waters above” the firmament, i.e., as something that exists at the furthermost extremity from the Earth (a Biblical 8 billion miles at most, not 15 billion light years! [See: Size-Structure Pt 1]), we are clearly talking Designer with a capital “D”. And just as clearly, those “waters” could just as easily be crystalline as liquefied and still fit the Biblical description perfectly. Water is water, whether it be crystals, ice, or liquid! Indeed, as we proceed with some exceptional Scriptural references in Part III, we will see that water crystals supply the precise feature in the Biblical structure of the universe that allows it to have a radius of no more than one light day while simultaneously revealing how the Kabbala Kosmoligists can falsely claim 15 billion light years thickness and trillions of stars.

Before that, however, it behooves us to realize that scripturally and logically–Big Bang mythology notwithstanding–there is an outer spherical shell or dome which covers and encases all material objects in the universe within it. We recall the second reference in the Hebrew for “firmament” (#7554) given on page 8 in Part I…. That definition is: “…to expand by hammering; by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal)…spread abroad (…into plates).”

It is plain that the connotation of the word “overlay” fits with the Hebrew connotations of the other relevant words in Genesis. More, it was established semantically and grammatically that the firmament is “against” but separate from the spherical integument encasing the universe. Notice now how the Hebrew connotations describe a global dome through the word “overlay”: 1)”to lay or place (one thing) over or upon another. 2) “to cover [to place something over or upon], overspread [to spread or diffuse over], or surmount [to be on top of or above] with something….”

So far then, all that is directly overhead to everybody in any place on the Earth and at all times–insofar as the Biblical size and structure of the universe is concerned –progresses upward from the Earth in this order:

a) A space–with its atmosphere and various other components–between the earth’s surface and the Moon of about 1/4 million miles. This space constitutes the 1st heaven, i.e., the 1st part of the firmament;

b) Next is: The 2nd part of the heaven/firmament some alleged 3.670,000,000 miles thick containing the sun, moon, and planets with all their motions around a stationary Earth;

c) Next is: The 3rd part of the heaven/firmament–of no greater than equal thickness to the 2nd part (another 3,670,000,000 miles)–contains ALL of the stars. This starry realm of the 3rd heaven/firmament (the Stellatum) revolves around the Earth every 23 hours and 56 minutes as observed. (See Part IV [See: Size-Structure Pt 4]).

d) Next: Also in the 3rd part of the heaven/firmament is a Biblically described zone that is specifically located “above the stars” (Is. 14:13). The Bible describes this zone as being the temporary location of God’s Throne and all of His construction of the eternal New Heavens and New Earth and New Jerusalem (Is. 65:17,18; 66:22; II Pet. 3: 10-13; John 14:2,3). This 3rd part of the heaven/firmament also revolves around the Earth, possibly–but not certainly or even probably–in synchronization with the stellatum (II Chron. 16:9). The Prophets Ezekiel and Daniel wrote of fiery “wheels within wheels” as we shall see. As we saw in Part I, there are Bible clues which enable us to make an almost wildly generous estimate of the thickness of this part of the 3rd heaven and still stay within a radius of one light day for the whole universe. Note:

(* Thickness of the 3rd Heaven: As noted in Part I, God says in Isaiah 66; 22 –written in 712 BC–that He “will make new heavens and the new earth….” That project has been ongoing in the 3rd part of the heaven/firmament that is above the stars…to be completed on schedule (Rev. 3:12; 21:2) with no cost overruns. Some 741years after Isaiah’s message–in John 14:2–Jesus tells us of the work in progress: “In my Father’s house [the New Jerusalem on that New Earth: Rev. 213] are many mansions…I go to prepare a place for you….” (Q) How thick then does that part of the 3rd heaven which is God’s present dwelling place and which is “above” the stars, need to be? (A) Thick enough to accommodate the New Earth which, extrapolated from the size of the New Jerusalem on it (Rev. 21:16), will require a diameter of several million miles…still only a tiny fraction as thick as the 2nd heaven or the starry realm of the 3rd heaven. This is negligible in the overall thickness calculations. Certainly an allowance of a 660 million mile thick “construction site” is at least ten times too generous– as noted in this breakdown. [See: Size-Structure Pt 1, (p. 15); also Audio Part II, #8]

e) Next and last: A global dome encases all that is in the universe. Its under surface is covered (or strategically embedded) with highly reflective water crystals (sample of shapes on p. 2). Obviously, such incredible designs are capable of sending innumerable scattered reflections…accompanied by a full range of spectrum colors for our Redshift Theorists to play with and continue to expand their Expanding Universe fantasy. Reflections from multi-angled facets of these precisely embedded crystals off of a comprehensible number of actual stars are sent to locations of non-luminous entities (e.g., our moon without the sun, asteroids, and nebulae). There in the blackness of space where many are retro-reflected off of the crystalline dome and are seen or captured by spectrographic technology and are yet other innumerable reflections that are being counted as actual dim stars or “night lights” behind nebulae, etc. The thickness of this global “dome” overlaying the present universe is vaguely suggested in the Hebrew connotation of “firmament” (#7554) that we just saw, viz., “…to expand by hammering, by implication, to overlay (with thin sheets of metal)…spread abroad (…into plates)….” So, how thick?? “Hammering” and “thin sheets” suggest not thick at all…perhaps measurable in inches or a few meters…. Who knows? Whatever it is, it is certainly not a figure that plays any substantive role whatever in the overall thickness of the Biblical Universe.

***

As you will have noticed in those photos of “water crystals”, they come in every shape imaginable from plain flat surfaces to the most ornate jewel-like patterns. The one characteristic they all have, however, is that they are all highly reflective. The crystals in the pictures are quite small. But, obviously, given that the interior surface of the dome encapsulating even our Biblically “small” universe would cover trillions of square miles, they are probably huge by present standards. (When it is recalled that the size of the Biblical God can vary from human size (Heb. 1:3) to one where God “measured out the waters of the earth in the hollow of his hand and meted out the heaven with a span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure and weighed the mountains in scales and the hills in a balance (Isaiah 40:12)…the huge crystals required for the function they have in this part of the structure of our universe are not hard to conceptualize….)

In order for these crystals to either cover that total surface or a good percentage of it with precisely designed embedments which would complete the Biblically specified and optically supported design. Some of the “water crystals above” would likely be as big as the Indian Ocean, while others areas could be quite small. (Since the Biblical “waters below” do not cover the total surface of the Earth, the “waters above” could–but very well may not–cover the total underside of the encasing dome… I lean toward the view that they do not cover it totally, but that God has set the variegated water crystals in various locations and postures to produce all of the effects that are actually known. How about a supernova here and there? Think of the flash of mirrored sunlight on a certain spot, or that blinding reflection from the sun shining on the rear window of the car in front of you…or even the intense sparkle from a certain facet in a diamond ring…. This is easy stuff for the God of all creation! (The spectrums which allow all the redshift speculations and other technology-produced simulations of clusters, spiral shapes, nebulas, supernovas, etc., which are now in all software that automatically fits with today’s Cosmological Paradigm of a universe that is 15 billion light years thick. Everything that is known can more sensibly be fit into the Biblical Paradigm of a universe that is less than 8 billion miles thick.). {… to get an idea of how easily tech fraud can contribute to the furtherance of this Kabbalist Paradigm with the placement of many-sided mirrors of various shapes in the computerized telescopes that are configured in some pretty remarkable ways… ostensibly just to report what’s out there!} [See: NASAs Hanky-Panky]

Anyway, the point is that each water crystal–regardless of size and shape–has been set jewel-like in “hammered” bezels on the underside of the global encasement with a supernatural precision that makes the finest 21 jewel Swiss watch of old about as sophisticated as a mud pie. Thus affixed and perfectly arranged these crystals reflect the light from whatever number of real stars there are. That real number of stars is multiplied (and even magnified) and scattered reflectively with all of the spectral array that is precisely positioned and timed to produce the number and specific locations of individual points of light and all other deep space phenomena that is actually known to exist.

These are the points of light that astronomers can actually distinguish without resorting to easily manipulated computer-programmed imaging produced by Simulation Artists. These folks are marinated in what they think is a “scientific” paradigm which demands an evolutionary concept of the Origin of everything stretched over 15 billion years. To a man/woman–unless they are knowledgeable Kabbalists–these “space scientists” worldwide have accepted and are unwitting evangelists for that Pharisaic Religion’s “Creation Scenario”. Consciously or not, they are promoting the atheist or agnostic religious philosophies held by the noted Rabbinical (Rebbes) Kabbalists of the past and present. (It is time for the honest ones to start thinking about spilling the beans concerning the factless high-tech fraud of which they have personal knowledge or suspicions…)

Consequentially, all extrapolations and guesstaments beyond the number of points of light being called stars that are in excess of what can actually be seen and known are–as with other cosmological fantasies–just assumptions resting upon other assumptions which are “certified” by all manner of ultraviolet photon hypotheses and redshift wave-theory voodooism (Part VI [See: Size-Structure Pt 6]). The Biblically Small Universe declares all such extrapolations to be false, unnecessary, and confusing deceptions. These deceptions serve only two purposes, viz., 1) To validate Kabbalic Kreationism and all that is built on it; 2) To simultaneously discredit the Biblical creation scenario and all that is built upon it. Again, this is a battle between the religion of Talmud/Kabbalism and the religion of the Bible and the kind of g-d/God each projects. Pseudo-science supports the former and true science the latter…. (Satan is the admitted g’d of Talmud/Kabbala Phariseeism. [See: Sola Scriptura 4])

With those thoughts in mind, those interested will want to examine some other astonishingly pertinent Scriptures which fit the Biblically described structure of the universe seen thus far. As far as I can tell, the application of these Scriptures to an understanding of the size and structure of the universe has not been made before now, as is evident by their absence in the Models of the universe proposed by Medieval Churchman.

Nevertheless–considering that not even a telescope was available–those earth-centered models with a “stellatum” containing all of stars diurnally revolving around the earth as in the Ptolemaic Model–were not that far off the true mark! The errors that were built into those models because of technological deficiencies were quite small really. For example, the planets Uranus, Neptune, and “Pluto” had not been discovered and were not included in the model and thus the starry zone called the stellatum began after Saturn, rather than after Pluto [now itself in question].

Since our books assure us that it is some 2, 825,000,000 miles from Saturn to Pluto, we add that distance to the distance from Earth to Saturn and get the end point of the Biblical 2nd heaven. That end point is also the beginning point of the 3rd heaven, i.e., the stellatum containing all the stars plus the Biblically specified zone of God’s operations “above” those stars. The thickness of this star-filled 3rd heaven of the Biblical firmament is finite and is more than adequately accommodated by the thickness assigned to it with the explanation given earlier…

Beyond the starry realm (stellatum), the Medieval Church also postulated a zone that was called the “Primum Mobile”. This was a region which “carried no luminous bodies and was invisible to the human eye” (www.lancs.ac.uk. p.4). Then: “In Christian Cosmology, the answer to the question of what lay ‘beyond’ the Primum Mobile was: God. It was the heaven ‘beyond’ all the other heavens or ‘the very heaven’….”(Ibid.)

Again, this was not far off the mark considering the times and even all that is actually known today! If it had been realized that the 3rd heaven where God’s Throne–and hence God–is located according to Scripture (II Cor. 12:2), then God wouldn’t have been placed beyond the “Waters Above” and the door wouldn’t have been closed on the search for and discovery of other Scriptures which would complete an understanding of the size and structure of the universe that no true knowledge of the heavens denies today.

As we are seeing, those mis-applied and underappreciated Scriptures plainly put God and all His operations in a revolving 3rd Heaven just beyond the starry realm (stellatum) and Biblically contiguous with the Scriptural “waters above”. Furthermore, those Scriptures decree that those “waters above” be crystalline starlight reflectors embedded in the underside of a thin but substantive dome encasing our entire temporary universe (Isaiah 65:17;66:22; II Pet. 10-13; Rev. 21:1), and beyond which there is no created entity.

To most people today it will seem utterly ridiculous to even consider that a Biblical Model of a Small Universe with the Earth at the center could be the true state of affairs. Surely, we reason, it cannot be that four and a half centuries of progressively ignominious defeat of the Biblical Creation Scenario and its triumphant replacement by another “holy book’s creation scenario”–certified in all learning centers and hyped relentlessly in all the media by a Theoretical Science Establishment–has been a deception so grand in its scope and purpose as to rule out purely human plotting and conniving!!

Yet, the closer one studies what has happened, the more certain it becomes that the fruits of this massive deception provide all the evidence that is needed to identify the perpetrator. As it is beyond argument that what people believe about the Origin of the sun, moon, earth, stars, and themselves is foundational to all other beliefs and philosophies, it is equally beyond argument that the Kabbalic Kreation Model is diametrically opposed to–and hence the implacable enemy of–the Biblical (and Koranic) Creation Model.

Are the Talmudist/Kabbalists the sole perpetrators? Certainly not! Are they the primary perpetrators? Yes. They have been the initiators, the facilitators, the undercover perpetrators probably since their Babylonian Captivity. But the scheme is too focused on a single-minded goal over too many centuries not to have been derailed a thousand times by circumstances if it were not supernaturally conceived, directed, and promoted by a host of people (non-scientists and church leaders included), virtually all of whom have had no known allegiance to Talmudism/Kabbalism.

Nevertheless, of all the major religions, Pharisaic Judaism is the only one that–for the most part–has a priesthood that has no belief in either a personal God or a Satan-like adversary. [See: Kabbala 3, (p. 4) – Kabbala 4, (p.2), Sola Scriptura 4] Consequently, unlike the ancient Hebrews, this kind of belief–this intellectual agnosticism–has provided no God-given supernatural support nor protection nor any defense for the Jewish people against a supernatural enemy. Neither–in their view–exists. Or, if g-d is allowed, he has no contact with mankind (a la Rambam Maimonides, Einstein, Sagan, et al), and Satan is just a bogeyman for retarded Christians and Moslems. [See: Sola Scriptura 4] Yet, over the centuries there has been an unflagging resolve by the Talmudic/Kabbalic Rabbinate to mastermind a way to break the back of Bible Credibility and hence genuine Christianity, whereby a very personal and loving God and a very personal and vindictive Satan are central to the whole plan of God. [See: Satan: What Makes Him Tick?]

Satan–the Bible teaches–is every man’s “…adversary who comes as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour” (I Pet 5:8). He has no truth in him (John 8:44). He is the “god of this world (II Cor. 4:4; Matt. 4:4). His ministers are very frequently in Christian pulpits preaching Christ (II Cor. 11:13-15). Also, “doctrines of devils” (aka Satan’s “demons”, I Tim. 4:1) are allowed to mess up church doctrines… (And what a job they’ve done![See: Bible Doctrines Purification Series, Sola Scriptura 2]). Endeavoring to destroy the Plan of God revealed through Jesus is precisely the single-minded role which Satan is assigned in the Bible. Is it not way beyond coincidence that this same single-minded goal is also the leitmotif of Talmudic/ Kabbalic Pharisaic Rabbinism…the bane of Jews everywhere throughout their history from their Babylonian Captivity to this very hour?? “I will ascend above the stars of God [above the 3rd heaven]…I will be like the most High [God], Satan boasts (Isaiah. 14:13, 14).” God replies: “Wanna Bet??! You will be a museum attraction that my flesh and blood redeemed children (Is. 66:24; Gal. 3:29; Rev. 22:15) will look at and study and comment with astonishment: ‘Is This the dude that caused all the trouble throughout history??!’” (Isaiah 14:15, 16; Ezek. 28:16-18). [See: Satan: What Makes Him Tick?]

Likewise, of all the major religions, Judaism is the only one that mocks and hates Jesus and His New Covenant with a deadly passion and claims that their spiritual leaders (Rabbis, Rebbes) are smarter than g-d. [See: Talmud, (p.4)] These are those whose single-minded mission is the destruction of the Bible’s credibility from Creation to Jesus to Heaven. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools…” (Rom. 1:22; Is.44:25). And that goes for all of us in the non-Jew masses who also have been deceived by the utterly insane Kabbalist “creation scenario” which tells us that a “cosmic egg” exploded 15 billion years ago and created all that exists!

But now the hour draws very close when the Biblical God of Creation–first revealed to the world by the Hebrew Moses–is going to restore sanity about the Origins and nature of all that exists and thereby set in motion the final scenes of the Last Act of God’s End Time Drama for this old Earth. [See: God’s End Time Drama] Compared to the factless fantasizing of Big Bang Kosmology founded upon and fueled by observation-denying assumptions from start to finish, the Bible’s Cosmology is a model of clarity, simplicity, and scientific realism. No “quarks”, no “black holes”, no “superstrings”, no evolving Klingons and E. T’s swarming through the universe in space ships; no hidden occult religion disguised as science deceiving its devotees… who then, in turn, employ every device to deceive the rest of the world! In place of all that, we have an intelligible structure of our universe from the “waters below” to the crystalline “waters above”, a structure which conforms to all that is actually known, a structure which was described in writing through men by the Almighty God Who can and will bring it all to pass as promised in His Infallible Word.

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NASA: Promoting Evolution

Posted on October 5, 2015 by revealed4you

NASA: Promoting Evolution

Pluto-satellite

http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas-agenda.html

NASA has a spiritual agenda. Yes, spiritual. It projects the image of cutting edge science opening exciting space frontiers for the good of mankind, but the facts say otherwise. Judge for yourself:

On the Space Administration’s Web Page we read: “NASA’s ORIGINS PROGRAM will search for clues to help us find our cosmic roots.”

“Cosmic roots…?? Origins Program…???

There are two major beliefs about the origin of mankind and all other life forms. One says God created man and everything else not very long ago. The Bible states this view over 100 times and allows for no other explanation. God created everything fully formed as part of an eternal plan, the Bible teaches. Period. The other belief says everything came to be as it is accidentally and randomly as the result of natural forces acting upon themselves and “evolving” over billions of years. Clearly, the evolutionary belief is anti-Bible, but–more to the point about NASA’s goals being spiritual–it is a belief that attributes miraculous powers of creation of all that exists to a “force” or a god known as “matter” (and “gases”). Matter did it all. All hail “matter”! No God who demands recognition and accountability is needed! With “matter” as creator we can do what we want (’cause nothing matters…).

As might be expected, a compromise belief has arisen out of these two opposites. It is called “theistic evolutionism”. This view acknowledges that there has to be a God to explain the mind-blowing design that exists any which way we turn. But, says the Theistic Evolutionist, this God did not create everything fully formed but used an evolutionary process over billions of years to do the job. This evolution-dependent compromise allows a Creator God of sorts, but does not allow the Omniscient and Omnipotent Creator God Who authored the Bible. (Of note too is the fact that the Moslem Koran makes no compromise with evolution either….).

Therefore, NASA’s stated goal of searching space for clues to man’s origins reveals the premise behind their taxpayer supported Origins Program. That premise is that evolution is true and the Bible (along with the Koran) is false. This premise is not secular; it is spiritual. It claims to be scientific and therefore independent of religion. It is not scientific, as we shall see. It is religious, as we shall also see. The evolutionary premise violates all known science and logic. It does not have the first piece of verifiable evidence to support the squirrely evolution myth it calls “scientific”. Evolutionism embodies a single spiritual agenda, viz., disqualify and replace the Bible as the source of Truth.

In support of its Origins Program, NASA says it will answer such questions as:

“Are there any planets outside our solar system that are capable of supporting life?”

“How did life originate on earth?”

“Is there life (however primitive or evolved) outside our solar system?”

Under the heading “ORIGINS SCIENCE” we see that NASA makes it plain that its goal of establishing extraterrestrial evolutionism is symbiotically connected to its dependency on another “scientific” hypothesis. Note this connection and the dependency upon the unproven Big Bang hypothesis that NASA is using to achieve its goal of establishing evolutionism as a “fact”. From part of its Web Page we read: from th

“NASA’s ORIGINS PROGRAM follows the 15-billion year long chain of events from birth of the Universe at the Big Bang, through the formation of the chemical elements, galaxies, stars, and planets, through the mixing of chemicals and energy that cradles life on Earth, to the earliest self-replicating organisms and the profusion of life.”

Seen in this statement is the unmistakable dependency of NASA’s evolutionary agenda upon the Big Bang Myth. That Myth grants them and others the billions of years that the Evolution Myth requires. “Time” is indeed the hero of this plot!

NASA goes on to say that “The long-term goals of ORIGINS address fundamental questions about our place in the Universe:

How did galaxies form in the early universe and what role do galaxies play in the appearance of planetary systems and life?

How do stars and planetary systems form and are there life-sustaining planets around other stars?

How did life originate on Earth and does it exist elsewhere in the universe?”

Now notice very carefully HOW all this is to be accomplished:

“ORIGINS will use revolutionary new technologies to investigate these questions…”

Underscore revolutionary new technologies! They are revolutionary all right! Under the next heading we will see the utter deception that NASA is building into these “revolutionary new technologies”. Further along, we will see that these technologies are designed to achieve their Bible-bashing goal of establishing extraterrestrial evolutionism thru the use of highly sophisticated VIRTUAL REALITY SIMULATIONS…. (More on high tech fraud in space. [See: Virtual Reality Fraud, Redshift Fraud, NASAs Hanky-Panky, Size-Structure Pt 6])

For the moment though, let’s just add a thing or two to further establish that: 1) NASA’s goal in its Origins Program is to settle the argument over Origins in favor of evolutionism, & 2) That this goal is Spiritual rather than scientific….

We can read many places that the late Dr. Carl Sagan (d.Dec.’96) was closely associated with NASA’s planetary exploration involving The Mariner, Viking, Voyager, and Galileo missions. What we don’t read about in many places is that Sagan was a avid pot-head. His biographer, Kay Davidson, AP writer Scott Andrews, Harvard Psychiatry Prof. Grinspoon, his widow, Ann Druyan, etc., all confirm that his essays and scientific insights were products of marijuana assisted inspirations. That Sagan was totally sold on the evolutionary explanation for all that exists is reflected in all his writings (the evolution of the human brain, little telescoping critters on the moon, his famous Cosmos TV series, etc.). He carried that zeal for replacing Biblical creationism with evolutionism over into his highly praised work at NASA. Indeed one Web bio summed up those years by noting that: “He played a leading role in the American space program since its inception.” In a posthumous award to Dr. Sagan, “the National Science Foundation declared that his research transformed planetary science….”

Sagan capsulated his belief about man’s significance thusly: “Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.”

This evolution-grounded nihilistic mindset has been prevalent in and out of academia for several generations. It’s not surprising that Sagan embraced it, nor that few if any dissenters toward that mindset would be found in NASAdom. By the time Sagan (and lots of us) went to the University, eight or ten generations of increasingly sophisticated indoctrination had seemingly closed and locked the door against any challenge to the Copernican Model which made the Earth go around the Sun instead of the Sun going around the Earth, as the Bible taught. The ever-increasing spread of Darwinism after the 1850’s demanded millions and then billions of years for evolution to take place. Clearly, the Sun, Moon, and Stars had to be billions of years old too for they could not be younger than the Earth. Indeed, a universe billions of years old was the only way Evolutionism could lay hold on the billions of years it needs to lend even superficial credibility to its fantastic claims.

So, let it be set in factual concrete: Copernicanism and Darwinism (i.e., Heliocentricity and Evolutionism) are Siamese Twins. Appearing first, Copernicanism paved the way for Darwinism’s success by using invented mathematical models in the physical science “disciplines” of Astronomy and Physics, and by contradicting the Bible’s teaching about an immovable Earth at the center of Creation with the Sun going around daily. Darwinism then reinforced Copernicanism by requiring billions of years for everything to evolve. Now the Biological Sciences had joined with the Physical Sciences in contradicting the Biblical Creation with its young Earth and Man as the special Creation of God, made in His Own Image and with an option for eternal life on a heavenly New Earth. All that was needed by the time of Sagan’s University days was a way to get rid of the stubborn, lingering belief in God’s Creation of Mankind in six literal (“evening and morning”) days. This belief had to be put on a level with the almost totally defeated and forgotten belief in a very special unmovable Earth at the center of God’s plans. Nobody argued for that anymore, but hundreds of millions of people were still clinging to a conviction that evolution theory was total nonsense and that Mankind is the special creation of an Almighty God with a great purpose and plan for His Creation. How could this resistance to evolution be ended once and for all??

That was the challenge that faced hallucinating “exobiologist” Sagan and Co. when he got in the driver’s seat at NASA. In that position, taxpayer’s billions of dollars could provide the ways and means to eliminate all challenges to the Big Bang model as the “scientific” explanation for the origin of the universe, Earth included. Then thru the development of cutting-edge computerized telescope and camera technology a way was opening up to settle the creation/evolution controversy forever in favor of evolution.

Of course, Sagan’s total commitment to evolutionism (in tandem with Biologist J. Gould at Harvard) was spread far and wide thru his TV Cosmos series and his books at the time computer technology was developing. He taught that widespread extraterrestrial evolution was a certainty and would soon be proven. He was at the center of NASA’s drive for perfecting computerized telescopes and cameras with Virtual Reality technology for a dozen years before he died. But he didn’t live to see the job completed. Just a couple of years before his death, he admitted in his article “The Search for Extraterrestrial Life” in the Scientific American (’94) that of all of his NASA supported missions: “None of these [spacecraft] encounters has yielded compelling, or even strongly suggestive, indications of extraterrestrial life.”

That’s a pretty strong confession when you think about it. Indeed, “Exobiology” is a “science” with no data…the ultimate oxymoron.

In 1992, four years before Sagan’s death, Daniel Saul Goldin became NASA’s Administrator. His policies earned him many accolades, including the title of “brilliant visionary” and being named “one of the 100 most influential men and women in government”. No one questions his ability to vigorously and innovatively fulfill NASA’s stated goals. His vision has nowhere “been more evident than in his comprehensive strategy for space exploration”. We want to take a very close look at the main components of that “comprehensive strategy” momentarily, but let the overriding goal of that strategy be understood and underscored yet again.

Mr. Goldin did not alter the goal of finding extraterrestrial life forms and establishing evolutionism as a “scientific fact” which will no longer be contested by anyone. Indeed, his administration streamlined NASA’s whole operation by putting those revolutionary new technologies mentioned earlier on afterburners, as it were. Mr. Goldin meant to see NASA’s goal accomplished, and he meant to do it speedily.

His Web bio reveals that: “He initiated the ORIGINS PROGRAM to understand how the Universe has evolved, to learn how life began on Earth and to see if life exists elsewhere.” (Goldin update [See: NASAs O’Keefe])

Let’s see how he proposed to achieve these goals. Go to: NASA’s Hanky Panky Virtual Reality Technology.

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King James Bible 1611

Posted on October 4, 2015 by revealed4you

The King James 1611 Bible – the only one that should be used as the modern version have many changes and even the old versions there are changes. Look at this and compare to your modern version. Click Here and get your copy (12mb download).

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NASA’s Latest Scam: Orion

Posted on October 1, 2015 by revealed4you

Here is a video that I found that NASA put out. Though the title of the YouTube video is misleading, as the narrator did not admit they could not go through the Van Allen Belt, it is revealing none the less.

In short, this guy talked like this will be the first time that we went through the Van Allen Belt, which implies that we didn’t go through it for the Apollo Missions (which, of course we didn’t go to the Moon).

My comments

As for the Van Allen Belt, as some flat earthers believe, it doesn’t exist. This was created by Van Allen in the 1950s to cover up that there is a firmament – as the Bible states – that prevents us from going further.

On this video is notice at the end where they have the space capsule going into the water – this is a CGI. Why have a CGI since NASA could have used the old footage of another mission, such as Apollo. Perhaps they could use an old footage because they don’t exist. Sure there is real video footage after the capsule is in the water, but this was probably a staged event. Meaning the capsule was placed in the water and then the aircraft carried came up to it and this is where the old TV news coverage came in. anyhow, notice in this footage the lack of detail of the ship in the background. Why use CGI when real old footage would do to simulate it?

What about the re-entry? Now, how can something of that shape going 17,000mph not tumble over? We are told because of the rockets on the side to keep it steady – yea, sure! How can the fuel be safe from the extreme heat reaching the fuel? How much fuel is required to do this and where is that stored in such a small capsule? Where are the storage of all the oxygen tanks for this whole space mission stored? What metal on earth that can withstand 4,000 F heat? How does this metal disperse such immense heat to protect the astronauts inside? These are questions that need to be answered.

Finally, how much is the taxpayer being sucked in for this? Who pocketing the money?

This is just another Loony Tune brought to you by NASA.

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What To Do After Your Introduce People to the Flat Earth

Posted on October 1, 2015 by revealed4you

Bible-study-flat-earth

Richard Snowden

Many people who introduce others to the flat earth truth think that there is nothing else to do, while others would say just tell more about the flat earth. I propose something else.

After the person you are talking to accepts the flat earth truth, then is your chance to introduce him/her to other conspiracies that are covered up. Naturally, you don’t do it on the same day, as you most probably spent enough time with them and they have to go. Also, you don’t want to over load them with too much information as they already have a ton to deal with. But with that aside when you meet your friend the next time it would be good to ask some other questions. Below are some examples.

“What other things have the government and media cover up? I’m sure that the flat earth is not the only thing. We should now question all things. Since the flat earth truth was covered up, there are probably other things that they covered up, too.”

You many want to bring up one other topic and introduce that as you did the flat earth. Naturally, you want to be knowledgeable on the topic and you may want to bring up a topic that affects everyone or nearly everyone. One such topic would be the lies that the medical profession has fostered on us. You can show them how they have lied about vaccines and drugs and how this prevents diseases. In your talk, you will want to have some facts, some quotes by other doctors, etc. You should also have some documents to show them, some links to share with them and, of course, links to good YouTube videos. You can say, “Don’t believe me but do your own research. Type in Google: dangers of vaccines and see what you come up with. In fact, do the search in YouTube as you will find many good documentaries.”

Ask them questions to get them engaged. This way, it will not sound like a one way street. By asking leading questions then waiting for their answer will get them to think. When a person comes to a conclusion on their own they are more likely to believe than if they were told something. When they ask questions, that means they have an interest. If they are not asking questions, ask them something in order to keep the dialogue going. If you got a person interested so far in the flat earth, that means they may be interested in other conspiracies. I say “may” as it’s not always the case.

Some other topics you can cover, as time allows and as the interest in the other person continues are:

Bible cover ups

One World Government

Genetically modified foods

Immigration problem

Chemtrails

Lies about history

National or international events

Let me talks a little about a couple of the above to give you an idea of what I mean.

Chemtrails – This is a good one as this is evident for the whole world to see, yet most media covers this up and they say these are natural clouds or natural water condensation from jets.

National Events – An example of this would be 9-11 and the bombings in New York City. This was so “in your face” that it would be easy to point out to others of the lies the government and media has told up.

Some people in the flat earth movement – if you want to call it that – want to keep it flat earth and nothing else. However, there are others, including Christian Flat Earth Ministry, see the bigger picture. We don’t want to let people think, or to imply, that everything else in society is OK; that the government is telling us the truth when it comes to everything else. We, at CFEM, want people to know the truth in all areas of life, especially those that affects their lives, their families and their nation. And we can do this by introducing other conspiracies. If nothing else, we can give them links to other sites run by people who know a lot more on the subject than we do. This is probably the best thing to do.

For those who have just learned about the flat earth and it’s your first “conspiracy” of sorts, you have just begun your journey of knowing the other truths that we waiting for you.

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Rare Blood Moon Pictures

Posted on September 28, 2015 by revealed4you

Cover Up of Blood Moon

By Richard Snowden

What the freak is that?

What the freak is that?

   In the early morning of Monday 28 September, 2015, my wife and I were outside where I took pictures of the “Blood Moon.” When I downloaded the pictures, my wife and I discovered something very odd. We had seen this when we saw the moon but now we have it on the computer, too. What we had seen is the odd shape of the object that is covering the Moon.

We are told that this Blood Moon event is the result of the earth coming between the Sun and the Moon and that the colour (red) is the result of the reflection of light off our atmosphere. If that is the case, there is something very strange.

Below are a couple of pictures that I took (I took more) that will show the oddity (including the picture above). They are posted in the order that I took them, so there is the progression of the eclipse.

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What do you notice odd about some of the pictures?

What my wife and I noticed is, that in the later pictures, the odd shape of the object that is covering the moon. We had noticed this, too when we took but now we can examine the pictures. If it’s the earth that is suppose to have cast its shadow on the Moon it should be crescent shape but it’s not. Notice the two bulges. That is not the shape of the outline of the earth (globe or flat)! This shape continued until nearly the full eclipse.

Blood Moon with odd shape.

Blood Moon with odd shape.

In a few of the pictures, if you look closely, you’ll see a slight hint of dark colour. The colour was more vivid in real life and the best way I can describe it is rust colour – something like a brownish orange. It was not at any time blood colour or red. (Actually blood colour turns brownish red when dried.) But the other oddity is that you could see the colour through part of the “object” that was obstructing the Moon.

Thus, there are two oddities, one that is the shape that covered the Moon and the colour being able to come through part of the object itself.

Flat earthers, like me, believe that there is some other heavenly body that is circling the flat earth that gives off no light. The Moon, by the way gives off its own light and it does NOT come from the Sun’s reflection. This object has been recorded in ages past but we don’t know what it is. When I say “we” I mean the average person. I’m sure that NASA and other people in key military positions in the world knows what it is but they are not telling us.

What I would like you to do is, when you look at the Blood Moon pictures on the internet, see if you find any that has the shape of the object that is covering the moon. Download the picture if you can and let others know about it.

At the time of this writing I have not found any pictures of the outline of this object. This is telling us that the government and military complex do not what us to know what it is. So far, the only thing I have found are the nice round pictures of the Moon and the colour it took on during this couple hour historical event.

If you do see a picture with the eclipse, and if the object shows a partial but perfect curve, get a copy of that, for I’m sure it will be a Photoshop picture or something that is manipulated.

The fact that I got a picture with my inexpensive digital camera, I’m sure that are thousands of others that got pictures better than mine. Since we were looking at the same object at the same time, everyone should have a picture of the odd shape.

I hope that some amateur took some pictures through a telescope and with a better camera attached. I hope that they post them on a blog, website, Facebook or YouTube.

Let’s expose the corrupt government for what they are!

About my camera

The camera I have is a cheap one but it was good enough to reveal interesting things about the Blood Moon. I have a Finepix AX, made my Fujifilm. It takes up to 16 mega pixels and has 5 x optical lens.

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What else are we not told about in the Bible that the preachers cover up?

Posted on September 27, 2015 by revealed4you

A Cover Up Greater Than the Flat Earth

If you have been following along in this blog about the flat earth, you learned that the Bible does tell us about the true nature of earth and cosmology. The flat earth information is a huge cover up and has been going on for centuries. You should ask yourself what else has science, the priests, the media and the government covered up that the Bible tells us? Could there possible by any other truths that we should know about? Could there possibly be something that is a huge as the flat earth truth we learned? The answer to that is YES!

Here is a video about a cover up that that certain people don’t want Christians to know about. It really is “a must see”!

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The Bible and the Flat Earth: The Stars

Posted on September 26, 2015 by revealed4you

The Bible and the Flat Earth: The Stars

Continuing our study from where we left off of the firmament, we go to find what the stars really are. Now, there are many verses in the Bible where the stars are used as an analogy meaning “many.” We will not cover these verses, but the verses where it means literal stars. Keep in mind though, when stars are used to convey many, the stars in it’s literal sense means many, too.

My comments (C:) will follow some of the verses.

Gen_1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

C: It goes without saying that the stars to rule the night along with the Moon – as this is what we see at night. The important thing to note there is a connection with all the heavenly bodies to this little old planet earth. If the stars are what astronomers say they are, and their location is where they say they are (billions of light years away), they could hardly serve earth.

If the Sun is the centre of the solar system and the planets revolve around it, our Sun would not be serving us only but other planets. We’ll look more into this later.

Gen_15:5 And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be.

C: I left this verse in here to show you how God promised that his children will be very numerous.

Gen_37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Judges_5:20 They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.

C: It looks like the stars are not great balls of fire a million miles or more in diameter as we were taught. And it looks like they follow a “course.” This word “course” is interesting. What do you think of a course? I think of a course of any pre-determined course that comes back on itself; it could be a race course that man runs; it could be horse race or auto race course where it returns to the beginning. Admittedly, a course doesn’t have to return to the beginning, but one that does is very common.

Job_3:9 Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:

C: Here we read that the stars are directly related to the earth. For example, “…let it (stars) see the dawning of the day.” This “day” would be our earth day. If stars were all over space, which in turn are billions of light years in distance, how can they have any influence on us here? In fact, how can the nearest stars have any influence on us? They can’t, thus stars must be very close. Now, before you say, “How can they as we were told, as we would burn up; plus there would not be enough room for them in such a close proximity.” Just put that statement on the back burner for now, as stars are not what we are told they are.

Job_9:7 Which commandeth the sun, and it riseth not; and sealeth up the stars.

C: Why would Yahweh God “seal up the stars” that are thousands or billions of light years away? It would make no sense.

Job_22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

C: Apparently stars have a height to them but if you think of the cosmos as Carl Sagan and others would have us believe, the statement would be preposterous. First, how can you measure object of any height without a baseline? And, where would that baseline be in outer space? If outer space is what we are told it is, then, there would be no baseline, no up, no down. Thus, the stars must be close to earth and the flat earth is the baseline to which something can be measured.

Job_38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

C: Here is an indication that stars are not nuclear reaction mass of gas giving off great heat. According to this verse, they are intelligent (perhaps more so than we are!). Stars can shout for joy, thus they have emotions, too.

Psa_136:9 The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for ever.

C: The Moon and stars rule by night. Even globe earth believers can understand that the Moon rules by night, as the light from the moon would have no effect on any other planet in our solar system (if there was one). But the stars, how could they rule by night on earth (give the lesser light)? If the cosmos was what we are told in schools and the media, that they are billions of light years away, this verse would make no sense. But, if the stars are but a short distance away and they are just points of light, it would make sense. For the stars to “rule by night” would indicate that they are close. More about this later.

Psa_147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names.

Astronomers and those in the related science tells us that there’s an estimated billion galaxies and each one with a 100 billions suns (or whatever the current vogue figure is); wouldn’t it be ridiculous in number for God to give them all names? If the true number of stars are in the millions even, this would be understandable; a huge number for us, but for God, it wouldn’t.

Psa_148:3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.

Ecc_12:2 While the sun, or the light, or the moon, or the stars, be not darkened, nor the clouds return after the rain:

Isa_13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Isa_14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

C: Here is the word “above” but in order to have an above, there has to be a ground, a baseline to go up. Out is space there is no up, no down, no north, no south, no height and no depth. So, these stars must be in close proximity to the earth, and it is the level earth that is the baseline. You can not have a level on a globe. In fact, if the earth was a globe and you believe like the flat earth believers that the stars go around it, how would you establish a baseline? How would you know what is up, for what is up for you (if you live in the Northern Hemisphere) would be in the opposite direction in Australia?

In this verse we also read about satan (presumably) saying “above the stars of God.” This indicates that there is a limit, and end to where the stars are. If you believe what NASA and others tell you, there is no end. Even if there were, with 13 billion light years away, the distance is too vast to make any sense of the verse. However, if the stars are in a firmament and even if the firmament is 1,000 miles thick, saying “above the stars” makes sense. And the distance is small enough to relate it to the earth.

Jer_31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:

Eze_32:7 And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.

Dan_8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

C: This is the first indication of the size of the stars and their nature. We read in Daniel that some of the host of heaven is cast down to the earth and stamped upon. If stars were what we were told they are, of their huge size and immense heat, all of this would be impossible. There would neither the space to cram them all here and the heat would burn everything up. In fact if only one star, say our Sun, were to get close to earth (assuming the Sun is 800,000 miles in diameter and only 10,000 F, everything would burn up. There would be no life on earth, no one to stamp on them and all of this is just with one star. Therefore, the stars would have to be much smaller and without the heat associated with it in order for them to land on the earth and with the earth and its people to live through it.

Dan_12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

Joe_2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

C: If the stars were billions of light years away or even thousands, and they did not give their light, we would not even notice it as they are too far to see with the naked eye anyhow. But if they were close and the only stars that you see, then, yes; if they are darkened, we would notice that we can’t see the stars. The purpose of this darkening is for a sign for us from God. It would not be sign for us if we can’t even see the stars and they were darkened by God; he would be doing something that would not be necessary.

Mat_24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mar_13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

C: The above two verses indicates the relative closeness of the stars to the earth. For if the cosmos is what we are told they are, how can they “fall from heaven”? What is up and what is down in space? And even if the stars fell in one direction from wherever they are, how would they affect us? Who would see it? Remember that space – we are told – is huge, so a lot of things could happen out there and it wouldn’t make one iota of a difference to us. However, if the stars in the firmament, which is, say 300 miles up, that would be another story.

Luk_21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Act_27:20 And when neither sun nor stars in many days appeared, and no small tempest lay on us, all hope that we should be saved was then taken away.

C: These stars would have to be what we see. The so-called billion times a billion of stars we are told we have, we would not see, so they are already hid IF we had them.

1Co_15:41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star different from another star in glory.

Heb_11:12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable.

Jud_1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

C: Wandering stars are what we call planets, but the exist within the firmament, too.

Rev_1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

Rev_1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Rev_2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

C: Again, and indication of the small size of the stars

Rev_3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev_6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

C: How can a billion times a billion stars fall to the earth, even if they were one mile wide and 1,000 degrees F? There would be no life and there would be no earth. Thus, stars must be very small and without high temperature. Perhaps they just have light without any heat at all; I don’t claim to know everything and neither do other flat earth believers.

Rev_8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

C: It’s interesting to note that most of the mention of stars in their literal meaning is in the New Testament and related to the End Times!

Rev_12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

Rev_12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

I hope you have a better understanding of stars, and with that, of the universe we live in – though much smaller than we were led to believe.

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The Bible and the Flat Earth: The Firmament

Posted on September 26, 2015 by revealed4you

The Bible and the flat earth as it relates to the firmament. To understand the flat earth and God’s creation, we must look at the firmament. What is the firmament and how it relates to creation, we’ll look at the verses that talks about the firmament.

The word “firmament”is Strong’s number 7549, which means “visible arch of the sky.”

All verses, unless otherwise noted, are from the King James Version. My comments will be below the verse starting with C:

Gen_1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

C: This firmament divides the waters, but how, we’ll read later.

Gen_1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

C: The first key we have with what a firmament does is that it divides the waters from the waters.

Gen_1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

C: In this firmament it is called Heaven. Please keep all of this in mind as we read along as I will go back to these verses and comments later.

Gen_1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

C: This firmament, this Heaven has lights in it and it serves a purpose – at least in part – to give us, here on earth light. They also indicate signs, seasons, days and years. This indicates that man will (and should) observe the lights in order to tell us the seasons, etc.

Gen_1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

C: What are these lights that give light to the earth? They can be none other than stars. So, these stars in the firmament, which divides the waters and this place is also called heaven.

Gen_1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

C: This is a repeat of Gen. 1:15. any time you read of something more than once, you should take note of it. Outside of the Sun, the only thing that gives light to the earth are the stars.

Gen_1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

C: Here we read of an open firmament. This section of the firmament would be out atmosphere.

Psa_19:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

C: This firmament must be something we can see as it “sheweth his handywork.” With the stars, doe this not show the beautiful handywork of God?

Psa_150:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.

Eze_1:22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

C: This tells me that the firmament is relatively close “over their heads above.”

Dan_12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

C: Again, the firmament has brightness. By what we’ve read it looks like the firmament is something over or around the earth and it has stars in it. Now, the first thing you’ll going to ask is, “How can this be possible with the stars being from a couple of light years away to billions of light years. Is that the firmament?” I say no, as how can something this huge divide the water of the earth; how would the other “side” of this firmament contain water and still be related to the earth?

What flat earthers believe is that the firmament is made out of some kind of material and that the thickness is something that can be measured in miles and not light years.

Noah Webster wrote the first American dictionary and published it in 1828. Whenever he could he used Scripture. Noah was a real Bible scholar, the likes of which you won’t find today. Reading about the firmament in this dictionary is very revealing…

Here is what Noah Webster said about the firmament:

Firmament

FIRMAMENT, n. ferm’ament. [L. firmamentum, from firmus, firmo.]

The region of the air; the sky or heavens. In scripture, the word denotes an expanse, a wide extent; for such is the signification of the Hebrew word, coinciding with regio, region, and reach. The original therefore does not convey the sense of solidity, but of stretching, extension; the great arch or expanse over our heads, in which are placed the atmosphere and the clouds, and in which the stars appear to be placed, and are really seen.

And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:6.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament.

Ibum. 1:14.

Here we read, which Noah got from ancient texts as well as reading the Bible carefully, that the firmament is part of the earth or very close to it. It’s a region, conveys a sense of solidity, a great arch over our heads, the clouds and stars appear.

Since the stars are within this firmament, the stars can’t be what we are told by astronomers – that there is no vast expanse of universe.

I can add more here, but first I’d like to post other articles about the Bible and the flat earth, such as verses on: stars, Moon, Sun, sky and the position of the earth. I don’t want to get ahead of myself without going over the other parts of Creation.

 

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