The Flat Earth: Above and Below

The Flat Earth: Above and Below

When we are told something with the word “above” or “below” we know the meaning of it. “The dishes are above the counter,” or “I put the books on the shelve under the nick knacks,” for example. But most of us don’t realize the importance of these simple words. To us flat earthers, “above” and “below” should have more importance.

If people believe what the astronomers tell us about space and the infinite suns and planets – there can be no “above, below, up, down.” We all know this – even globe earth believers. The reason is, (assuming space exists as we are told) that is no above, below as there is no base line. For how can one galaxy be above another if there is nothing to compare it with?

Now, let’s look at the earth. Regardless of beliefs, we all use the words: above, below, up, down. And we all know the meaning of these words. But when heliocentric believers use these words they use the words in how they perceive things; they can’t use it in the same sense as geocentric believers. They may think they do but they are wrong.

Here is an example of heliocentric believer’s use. If he was in Australia he would say, “Look at that blue bird above us.” But what would be above for the Aussies, would it be above for someone in Denmark, for example? No, as it would be in opposite directions. So, the word, “above” has no absolute meaning. This, includes the words: below, up, down.

Heliocentric believers would say, “This is how we use the words; it’s based on our perception. That’s the only way we can describe it.” Well, this may be true but what if there’s an absolute – where is there a base line in which we can use as a reference? Well, there is with a geocentric world. IF the world were really round, we would still use these words, as it’s the only way to communicate to others. But what I hope to show later is that with a flat earth, these words take on more of a meaning.

With the earth being flat – that means there is a line (though imaginary) where anything above it is “up” or “above,” or “down” and “below.” Thus, what is “above” for the Aussie, is “above” for the Dane, as well. In a geocentric world these words have truly become universal. In a heliocentric world, it’s a different direction for everyone.

It’s impossible to have a universal direction on a round planet. Look at the drawing as an example:

As you can see, the base line that can be used for a reference point does not exist on a planet. If you were standing in Australia, you “can imagine” a straight line or surface you are standing on but if you draw that out, it would not be the same for everyone in the world. In fact, it won’t be the same for someone in your own country. A person 100 miles away, his angel will be slightly different. Compare this to someone in Denmark, for example, the degrees out of alignment from the guy in Australia is really off.

Heaven Above

For Christians, we have read verses of with the words “heaven” and “above” in them. Here is an example:

(Gen 49:25) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

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NASA Debunked in 17 Minutes

These astronauts knew too much so the government had to make sure they wouldn’t talk. Could part of what they knew was that there never would be a Moon landing? Could they have known the true nature of the earth, Moon and the firmament? I think so. Watch this video to find out who and how these people were killed.

One question that many would have when studying the flat earth theory is, “How did we get to the Moon if this flat earth stuff is true?” Watch this video and see if you have any doubts if we still went there…

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The Ultimate Flat Earth Photo

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What could be the ultimate flat earth photo? And, how can you get the ultimate picture of the flat earth? This is what every flat earther would like. I had thought about this about a month ago. Now, I’m putting this in print.

As I gave some thought to getting a great picture to help prove the earth is flat, I thought it still cost a couple of thousand dollars – so it is doable for many people.

The way to get a great picture would be to go on a tourist trip to the Antarctic. Or, it might be better to go on a cargo ship, as I’ll explain later. You would need permission first, but if you get it then you’re on your way. What you’ll need to take is a high altitude balloon with camera(s) mounted, and, of course, a tank filled with helium. Ideally, the camera will have to be able to transmit photos or video back to your laptop computer; this balloon should be able to reach 70.000 feet or more.

Why the Antarctic?

Simply because you are closest to the edge of the earth. All the pictures we’ve seen – whether it’s from a balloon or plane – is from a place that is thousands of miles from the edge. They’re usually taken somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere. But by taking the pictures in the Antarctic, you’re much closer to the edge.

How are is the edge from the Antarctic?

I don’t know but I’ve read it could be 300 miles. It might be more, it might be less. If the distance is too far – the picture will not be the ‘ultimate picture,’ as all you’ll see is a flat horizon.

What could the picture look like?

If the distance is not too far, we should see something different than just a flat horizon – we would see a curve. This curve, would not be because of a globe earth but a curve from a flat disk. There is a dome of some sort to keep our atmosphere in; the Bible calls it a ‘firmament.’ How does this firmament look like? I don’t know. It could be something that you can see, or it could be something that is transparent like. All of this is speculation, of course. If you can see through it, it might not be clear but you might be able to see the blackness of space; you might be able to see stars. And this blackness or other colour would be above the curve of the flat earth. If you were closer you might be able to see the abyss of the greater ocean, as the Bible speaks about.

Since the governments of the world will not allow you to fly across the Antarctic, the only way you can get an idea of what is further inland is from pictures of a high altitude balloon. Of course, the higher the balloon goes the further the distance you can see.

I’m sure I’m not the first person to think of this. Maybe NASA or some other space agency has already done this, I don’t know. They might have their pictures. In fact, I would be surprised if they don’t have their picture of the circular edge of the earth. Except for a few people of the earth, how this firmament looks like is a mystery.

Commercial Ship

If a tourist ship is not possible, it may be easier to take your cargo on a commercial barge that ships containers of goods. The location should be around Cape Horn as this would be closer to the coast of Antarctic. Tell the captain you are doing a documentary on this but don’t tell him anything about the flat earth. The company that owns the ship will make extra money and being on a commercial ship, taking a balloon and a tank of helium gas should pose no problem. You will want to know in advance how close commercial shipping will go to the coast, then do you calculation. If the distance is too far, you might not be able to get the pictures you want. You also want to check with a mathematician to calculate how far you can see if you are at 70,000 feet – or whatever altitude your balloon can go. Doing this first, will save you from wasting a trip.

Make a Documentary

It would be good to make a documentary on what you are doing, as this will give you something to sell to help finance your trip. Naturally, you should bring someone with you to help with the experiment and to take videos of your trip.

I know that people will pirate your documentary, as they do with everything but that doesn’t stop people from making films and selling them on the internet. This documentary would be of interest to many, so there should be some people who will buy it to cover your cost. However, the person who does this experiment should be willing to foot the bill for everything and not expect a return – the documentary sales will only be secondary. The main thing is, to get the ‘ultimate flat earth picture.’

The reason why I said a camera that can transmit photos back is better, is because if you have to retrieve the balloon, you might be able to retrieve it. If the balloon is sent up from a ship, it’ll land in the ocean and all your pictures will be lost. This way, if you get pictures sent back to your laptop, you don’t have to worry about the balloon. Don’t expect to get your camera back if you are launching the balloon from a ship.

Do such photos of the edge of the flat earth already exist?

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Antarctic base Chile.

  I expect they do; I’m sure someone in the military has done this experiment before. The pictures might have been taken by a high altitude jet. However, there might be other countries who hasn’t done this. For example, Chile or Argentina could easily conduct their own experiments. Many counties have bases on the Antarctic where such tests with high altitude balloon could be flown. But the fact is, the public has no photos. So that is why an individual flat earther will have to do this.

There is a possibility that some whistle blower in some nation that could leak the photos on the internet. From there, flat earthers could download the pictures/videos, and use this evidence when talking to others about the flat earth. In the meantime, the only way to get pictures of the edge is for some ‘average person’ to do it and share it with the rest of the world.

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? Part 2

Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? Part 2

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? It makes a lot of difference. Continuing where I left off, everyone should have an interest in knowing if the earth is flat or not. Why? To simply know about where we live on this planet – or, should I say “plane” – and the shape of our earth is important to know. For those who don’t care – and I have met one who said that – it would be like saying, “I don’t want to know where Europe is. I don’t want to know where Asia is. I could care less to know where Australia is.” Only an ignorant person would say that. Sadly, there are many high school student who are ignorant of basic geography; you have probably seen video clips of people on the street asked where Iran is and they point to some place in Europe. I even met a woman who works in her own travel agency and thought that Ecuador didn’t exist! I said it did and she didn’t believe me but had to call another person on the phone to confirm this! I laughed, I couldn’t believe some people were so ignorant – especially someone who works in their own travel agency!

I’m not saying it will change your day to day life – it will remain the same. HOWEVER, it should start you to question other things that we are told that we put blind faith in. We should take time out and read what other lies we have been told as you life may depend on it. In fact, there are many people who suffer physically by being ignorant, or, as I say, “On purpose stupid.” Now, this is getting off the track a bit but it is related to cover ups like the flat earth, and that is the lies that we are told about how to keep healthy and how to get well if we are sick. If you believe in what the medical profession tells you, then you’ve been lied to.

Assuming that you have learned about the flat earth and that something this big had been successfully covered up since the time of Copernicus, it only stands to reason that there are other lies told us. Assuming you just know about the flat earth, here is something to get you onto the next cover up and that is the medical lies that have been told us. Without getting into detail here, as I could write a book on it, just do your research. You can go to Google or YouTube and search topics such as:

vaccines exposed

vaccine fraud

cancer cure

diabetes remedy

cancer racket

juicing for your health

Or, go to sites such as naturalnews.com or mercola.com These two site are the largest alternative health sites in the world and they have literally thousands of articles on everything you can think of. They also have videos with interviews with doctors who have exposed the racket that is going inside the medical establishment. Anyhow, with the search words given above you should have an idea of what to type in. You’ll be surprised at what you come up with. Of course, there will the the sites that are put up the the FDA, CDC, and medical boards to give you “their side” but make sure you read what others have to say, too.

Like I said earlier, your life can literally depend on whether you keep yourself willingly stupid or not. And once you learn the truth about what the medial profession is doing to us, just remember this: Your journey started with the knowledge of the flat earth.

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make?

Believe it or not, there are some people who say, “How is this Flat Earth stuff leading anyone closer to the Lord? This is not important. The whole world is going to hell and you’re talking about this?”

The fact is, I have found that talking about the flat earth DOES lead people to the Lord. How is that? If that person is an evolutionism, they think that we got here as a result of billions of years of evolution. Once they know about the flat earth, they realise that their former belief is full of bull. The person who made the above statement (and that goes for others, too) either hasn’t read and watched the material on the flat earth or they are not very smart (and maybe that is why they would believe in such nonsense as evolution).

Assuming you know about the flat earth, you will know that we are the only ones “out there.” we are the only planet period, and aside from the earth, there is Heaven. Even if you are still not convinced that there is Heaven above us, you would know that with the earth being the only plane (planet) out there, that means we could NOT have gotten here by chance, by evolving billions of years. So, your conclusion will have to be that there is a Creator God. This is what a friend of mine, said. In fact, he came to that conclusion himself, I didn’t have to tell him.

For those who have even a little interest in life around him/her they will search the Bible to see what it says about the stationary earth. From there, IF they have any curiosity at all, they will ask themselves, “What else has the government lied to us about? What else is in the Bible that we have not been told? Perhaps I should READ the Bible and find out.”

Yes, Virginia, there are other lies the government/educational/media has lied to you about; there are lies and omissions that your preacher didn’t tell you. With the flat earth knowledge, you have just begun your journey in uncovering conspiracies and cover ups. Would you like to know more? Then come back to this site to learn more and continue to do your research, too. As there is a lot more to know what is really going one – won’t you join me?

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The Bible Says The Sun Moves and Not the Earth

The Bible Says The Sun Moves and Not the Earth

Sixty-Seven Scriptural References

Genesis 15:12…… “…and when the sun was going down…”

15:17….. “…when the sun went down…”

19:23….. “The sun was risen upon the earth.”

28:11….. “…because the sun was set….”

32:31….. “…the sun rose….”

Exodus 17:12….. “…until the going down of the sun….”

22:3…… “…if the sun be risen upon him….”

22:26…. “…the sun goeth down….”

Leviticus 22:7…… “…And when the sun is down….”

Numbers 2:3…….. “…toward the rising of the sun….”

Deuteronomy 11:30….. “…the way where the sun goeth down….”

16:6……. “…at the going down of the sun….”

23:11….. “…when the sun is down….”

24:13….. “…when the sun goeth down….”

24:15….. “…neither shall the sun go down….”

Joshua 1:4….. “…the going down of the sun….”

8:29… “…as soon as the sun was down….”

10:12.. “…Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon….”

10:13.. “…and the sun stood still….”

10:27.. “…the time of the going down of the sun….”

12:1…. “…toward the rising of the sun….”

Judges 5:31…. “…as the sun when he goeth down….”

8:13…. “…before the sun was up….”

9:33…. “…as soon as the sun is up….”

14:18…. “…before the sun went down….”

19:14…. “…and the sun went down….”

II Samuel 2:24…. “…the sun went down….”

3:35…. “…till the sun be down….”

23:4….. “…when the sun riseth….”

I Kings 22:36…. “…the going down of the sun….”

I Chronicles 16:30…. “…the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved….”

II Chronicles 18:34…. “…time of the sun going down….”

Job 9:7…. “…commandeth the sun and it riseth not….”

Job 26:7…. “…He hangeth the earth upon nothing….”

Psalm 19:4…. “…tabernacle for the sun….”

19:5 … “…cometh out to run….”

19:6…. “…goes forth in a circle from one end of heaven to the other….”

50:1…. “…from the rising of the sun….”

93:1…. “…the world also is stablished that it cannot be moved….”

104:19.. “…the sun knoweth his going down….”

104:22.. “…the sun ariseth….”

113:3…. “…from the rising of the sun….”

Ecclesiastes 1:5…. “…The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down and hasteth to the place where he arose….”

Isaiah 13:10…. “…sun shall be darkened in his going….”

38:8…… “…is gone down on the sundial of Ahaz….”

38:8…… “…so the sun returned….”

41:25…. “…from the rising of the sun….”

45:6…… “…from the rising of the sun….”

59:19…. “…from the rising of the sun….”

60:20…. “…the sun shall no more go down….”

Jeremiah 15:9…. “…her sun is gone down while it was yet day….”

Daniel 6:14…. “…going down of the sun….”

Amos 8:9…. “…cause the sun to go down at noon….”

Jonah 4:8…. “…when the sun did arise….”

Micah 3:6…. “…and the sun shall go down….”

Nahum 3:17…. “…when the sun ariseth….”

Habakkuk 3:11…. “…the sun and moon stood still in their habitation….”

Malachi 1:11…. “…from the rising of the sun….”

Matthew 5:45…. “…for He maketh His sun to rise….”

13:6….. “…and when the sun was up….”

Mark 1:32…. “…when the sun did set….”

4:6…… “…when the sun was up….”

16:2…… “…at the rising of the sun….”

Luke 4:40…. “…when the sun was setting….”

Ephesians 4:26…. “…let not the sun go down upon your wrath….”

James 1:11…. “…for the sun is no sooner risen….”

That is a Total of 67 Verses in 35 Books of the Bible Which Say that It Is the Sun that Moves and Not the Earth!

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Here is the number of Verses and Books from the Bible Which Say that It Is the Earth that Moves and Not the Sun: 0

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Will You…your Preacher…your Church… Boldly Stand With The Bible on this Creationist Teaching??

In the Biblical Creation there was, after all, no sun for the earth to go around until the fourth day! (Genesis 1:14-19)

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Those who would like still further proof that there is no getting around the fact that the Bible teaches that it is the sun–not the earth– that moves, will want to read this title also:

“Grammatically and Semantically the Holy Bible is Wholly Geocentric”

Also, go to “What If?” for the top 11 references in 7 Bible Books which teach that the Earth is an immovable, stationary body, around which the sun travels daily…and for some other subject-related “What Ifs?”….

 

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Does the Bible Teach a Flat Earth?

DOES THE BIBLE TEACH A FLAT EARTH?

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http://www.geocentricity.com/astronomy_of_bible/flatearth/doesbibleteach.html

Gerardus D. Bouw, Ph.D.
•Introduction

•Historical Backgound

•Foundation of the Earth and World

•The Corners and the Ends of the Earth

•The Pillars of the Earth

•Conclusion

Introduction

“The Bible is not a textbook on science.” This saying, common among the Christian intelligentsia, seems to have originated with Augustine and is generally quoted to “explain away” some sort of apparent conflict between science and the Bible; in particular reconciling evolution with Genesis chapter one, and the idea that the Bible teaches that the earth is flat. The saying is subsequently invoked as an excuse for why the Bible need not be believed (i.e., “taken literally”) on that particular scientific point. However, II Timothy 3:16 tells us that the Bible is authoritative in all that it touches upon, science included. So one might well question the validity of Augustine’s claim insofar as those areas of science upon which the Bible does make pronouncements are concerned. Creationists have recently dealt quite well with the evolution versus Genesis chapter one issue; but there is one area on which the Bible does touch which has not been well-covered and that is the shape of the earth.

Most modern scholars claim that the Bible teaches an earth, flat and rectangular in shape, which is placed on several pillars which, in turn, are based on a foundation. This, scholars claim, is how the ancients thought of the earth and man, in writing the Bible, merely echoed the scientific dogmas of the time. Because of that, many have assumed that the Bible was written by men and not by God and, as a result, that the Bible is not to be viewed as an authority in science. But a careful investigation and search of the Scriptures reveals that such a model is not dictated by the wording of the Bible. On the contrary, the Bible was already hinting of the sphericity of the earth by referring to the “compass upon the face of the depth” (Proverbs 8:27) some 500 years before the nations first started to doubt the flatness of the earth. The Biblical model is one which has an earth, basically spherical in shape, with angular continents, and pillars which undergird the world. The pillars can be shown to correspond to crystalline rock, commonly called the mantle, and that there is an unspecified number of foundations to the earth which can range from the roots of mountains to the core of the earth to the very foundation, Jesus Christ himself. That this is the Biblical perspective is the purpose behind this paper. Some of the arguments presented are well over four hundred years old, others are presented here for the first time; but all purport to belie the notion that the Bible’s view of the earth is that maintained by most of this world’s scholars.

Historical Background

The belief in a flat earth was widely espoused by the ancients. The Hindus, for example, have a cosmology in which the earth is taken to be a flat disk, placed on the back of an elephant which, in turn, is standing on a giant turtle which is swimming in a vast cosmic ocean. The Greeks until about the sixth century before Christ, believed the earth to be flat and placed on the shoulder of the giant, Atlas. Even before the Greek civilization, the Egyptians viewed the earth as flat, surrounded by mountains upon which was placed the solid dome of heaven. The sun, moon and planets travelled along a celestial river in that dome.

About the sixth century B.C., some astronomical observations indicated the earth to be a sphere and by the time of the Middle Ages, the scholarly opinion was for the spherical earth. Thus Christopher Columbus did not encounter opposition for sailing west to the Indies so much on the basis of the belief that his ships would sail off the edge of a flat earth as that his estimates for the size of the spherical earth were way too small.

Scholarly opinion throughout the Renaissance was divided on the issue of the shape of the earth with adherents of the spherical earth in the majority. In 1578 the French academician and naturalist Lambert Daneau in his book The Wonderfvll VVoorkmanship of the World, wrote of the flat earth controversy as it existed in his day. After defending the sphericity of the earth on the grounds of Scripture, he turned to a geometrical argument, noting that the geometer’s speaking of the higher and lower parts of a sphere parallels the Biblical references to the “higher” and “lower” parts of the earth. Daneau concludes his discussion with:

so that in these positions and kindes of places and differences are found in the world, you may conclude that which you would, to wit, that the whole receite of this worlde is not sphericall and rounde.

It should be pointed out in the above text that Daneau’s use of the word “receite” means “acceptance” (literally, “recitation”). Daneau was saying that he had summarized the different positions of his time on the shape of the earth and that because of said positions, there was no consensus in the world. But since Daneau wrote his book, exploration of the Bible has revealed even stronger Bible passages than those used by Daneau in support of a spherical earth. So just what does the Bible have to say about the earth’s shape? In order to ascertain the Bible’s teaching on the shape of the earth we need to look at the underlying parts of the earth, too. The Bible speaks of the foundations of the earth, the pillars of the earth, the corners of the earth, and the ends of the earth.

The Foundations of Earth and World

The Bible speaks of both the world and the earth as having foundations. The term, “world,” speaks of the order of man in the earth. As such, references to foundations and pillars of the world cannot be held as very authoritative when it comes to speaking about the shape of the earth. The term “earth,” on the other hand, can not only refer to the whole earth, but also to “ground” and, as we shall see, “land” or “country.” So it is that a complete picture of the form of the earth in Scripture will not be manifest until all these are considered.

Of the number of passages which relate to the foundations of the earth and world, all but three speak of the foundations of the earth, the other three refer to the foundations of the world. Of these last three, two are almost identical and they can be found in II Samuel 22:16:

And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils. and Psalm 18:15:
Then the channels of waters were seen, and the fountains of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.

The context of both passages indicates that the foundations of the world are now hidden and will be discovered (or exposed) at the time of the judgment.

The third reference to the foundations of the world tells us just what these foundations are:

The earth is the LORD’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods. — Psalm 24:1-2.

Since the world is defined to be that part of the earth that pertains to mankind, there can be little doubt of the truth of the statement that the world is founded upon the seas, not built upon rocky foundations like the foundations of a building.

When it comes to the foundations of the earth, there are many more Bible verses from which to draw. Many of these references state that God laid the foundations of the earth, but each verse adds a little to that simple fact. Psalm 102:25 tells us that God laid the foundations “of old” with Hebrews 1:10 echoing the thought that God laid the foundations of the earth “in the beginning.” Job 38:4 simply states that God laid the foundations of the earth, but the sixth verse indicates that the foundations are themselves fastened upon something else. Hebrews 1:3 names this “something else” as the Lord Jesus Christ who “upholds all things by the word of his power.” Proverbs 8:29 tells us that the earth’s foundations were appointed. Proverbs 3:19 indicates that the earth was founded by wisdom while Jeremiah 31:37 indicates that the foundations are unsearchable. Micah 6:2 tells us that they are strong; so strong that the earth should never be removed (Psalm 104:5).

Given the above references to the foundations of the earth there are two things which become readily apparent. First of all, the foundations themselves are fastened upon Christ, the sustainer of the universe. Secondly, they are located somewhere under the earth (Jeremiah 31:37). When it comes to scientific application there is one thing which science can thus far confirm of these characteristics (discounting obvious characteristics such as strength) and that is their insearchability. Jeremiah 31:37 is the key verse there:

Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Whenever there is an earthquake, shock waves are propagated throughout the interior of the earth. But there is one area which the waves fail to penetrate. That area is the earth’s core, the very central part or “foundation” of the earth. Is this not the very thing that the prophet Jeremiah indicates? Until recently seismologists assumed that the center of the earth was composed of molten iron. Scientists now believe that the core may be rocky. No one knows for certain. Man’s concept of the outer layers of the earth’s crust has significantly changed in recent years: how much more so his ideas of the earth’s interior?
Corners and ends of the earth

If the foundations of the earth seem to be scientifically reasonable, then what of the four corners of the earth? Isn’t that proof of the Bible teaching that the earth is flat? Recent satellite results have indicated that the earth has four bulges and some Christian apologists have taken these four bulges to be the four corners of the earth, but such is rather far-fetched, especially considering that the bulges amount to only a few yards above the mean shape of the earth. The problem only arises if one ignores the dictionary definition of the word corner. The Oxford English Dictionary defines “corner” to mean:

An extremity or end of the earth; a region, quarter; a direction or quarter from which the wind blows.

The word “corner” comes from a Latin root cornu, meaning “horn.” That this is so survives in English via such words as “cornet,” “corn,” and “cornucopia.” Hence, the four corners of the earth can be interpreted as referring to the four cardinal directions — north, south, east and west. In addition, the “four corners of the earth” can also be interpreted as four “horns” of the earth. One obvious example of such a “horn” is Cape Horn, the southernmost tip of South America. So the usage of the phrase “four corners of the earth” does not signify a flat, rectangular earth.

In addition to referring to the “four corners of the earth,” the Bible also mentions “the ends of the earth.” When it comes to the consideration of the ends of the earth the above dictionary definition contains the resolution within it. Another way of saying the “ends of the earth” is to refer to the “extremites of the earth.” In this case, as is also the case for the four corners of the earth, the word “earth” refers to the land mass, country, or continents (as opposed to the globe). For an example of “earth” being used as “land” or “country,” compare Exodus 10:15:
For [the locusts] covered all the face of the whole earth, so that the land was darkened; … and there remained not any green thing in the trees, or in the herbs of the field, through all the land of Egypt [Emphasis added.] with verses 12 through 14:

And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand over the land of Egypt for the locusts, that they may come up upon the land of Egypt, and eat every herb of the land, even all that the hail hath left. And Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt …. And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt. [Emphasis added.]

Since the word “earth” can be used as synonymous with “land,” the “ends of the earth” thus refer to the points of land most distant from some central point. For the Bible, this central point is the land of Israel. The reader can satisfy himself by examing a globe that a great circle, passing through Jerusalem and the north and south poles, very nearly cuts the Pacific Ocean in half and leaves four continental “corners” or “ends,” namely the Chukchi Peninsula of the Soviet Union (opposite the Bering Straits of Alaska), Alaska, the southeastern tip of Australia, and Cape Horn of South America. These four geographical locations, as much as any other proposal, can account for the four corners of the earth. Alternatively, since there was probably a land-link between Siberia and Alaska at the time the Bible was written, the four corners of the earth could be Norway, Newfoundland, Cape Horn and the Cape of Good Hope.

In the light of such evidence we cannot claim that the Bible presents the earth as a four-cornered square. Furthermore, there are other passages which provide evidence that the Bible teaches a round earth instead of a flat earth. The most famous of the Bible verses supporting a round or spherical earth is Isaiah 40:22 where it says of God that:

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in…

The fact that this verse speaks of the “circle of the earth” can mean one of three things: 1) the earth is not a flat square but a flat circle. If that is true then what of the four corners of the earth? A flat circle has no corners. 2) the earth is shaped in a way that is spheroidal but has a square cross-section somewhere, at the equator, for example. 3) the earth is spheroidal in shape. This latter opinion is further strengthened by observing the reference to the inhabitants as grasshoppers, implying a perspective from on high, particularly, the outermost heaven.

Isaiah 40:22 is not the only verse in the Bible which speaks of the circle as descriptive of the shape of the earth. Proverbs 8:27 reads:

When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth…

The word “compass” can mean a circular enclosure or a spherical envelope. Since the verse speaks of an extended area — some three-quarters of the surface of the earth — the spherical enclosure for “compass” is a better interpretation than a circular enclosure.

Even with Isaiah 40:22 and Proverbs 8:27 the evidence for the sphericity of the earth in Scripture is still only circumstantial. In any case, these verses serve to illustrate that a spherical earth is not necessarily inconsistent with the Bible. But there is one more passage which is far stronger. Luke 17:31-36 reads as follows:

In that day, he which shall be upon the house top, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not turn back …. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left…. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

In regard to the shape of the earth, the point of these verses is this: they speak of day (verse 31) and night (verse 34) as occurring simultaneously. The activities are listed in the context of that global event, the rapture, which Paul describes as occurring in the “twinkling of an eye” (I Corinthians 15:52). The simplest explanation for this simultaneity of daylight and night is if the earth were spheroidal in shape, although one can always postulate a form of Reimannian geometry for light rays which could leave the earth dark half the time.

Likewise in Acts 1:8, Jesus gives His commission to His disciples to be witnesses “unto the uttermost part of the earth.” Note here that the word “part” is singular. A flat earth with four corners should be indicated by “uttermost parts;” but a spheroidal earth would have only one uttermost part, its opposite side or antipodes. Thus the Bible does not necessarily teach that the earth is flat.
The Pillars of the Earth

If the Biblical view of the earth is that of a spheroidal earth, what then of the “pillars of the earth” which are mentioned in three passages. The first of these three is in the prayer of Hannah which can be found in I Samuel 2 starting at verse 8:

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.

Obviously this verse indicates that the earth has pillars and that the world (that which pertains to man) is set upon them, not having any pillars of its own. Note that this verse does not require that the earth be placed on the pillars, only that the world is placed thereon. We shall find this view to be consistent with the other two Scripture passages also. It does not appear to be the case, as historians Santillanna and Von Dechend recently argued in their book Hamlet’s Mill, that the pillars of the earth are the two solstices and the two equinoxes (the solstices are the highest and lowest points at which the sun appears in the sky, being at the first day of summer and winter respectively; the equinoxes correspond to the times when the sun crosses the equator and correspond to the first days of autumn and spring).

Finally, there is one more Bible passage to consider before concluding this study on the Biblical teaching of the shape of the earth. Job 26:7 will modify any preconceived notions we may have about the pillars of the earth. It reads:

He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

A flat earth, upon pillars and foundations, hanging upon nothing is very difficult to imagine since one usually imagines the foundation to be the primary support for an structure. But here we note that according to this verse, in addition to the pillars and foundations underneath, the earth also hangs upon nothing. The pillars are under pressure. That they support the surface of the earth (where the world is) is clear from Hannah’s song. We have already noted the earth to be spheroidal in shape and so the earth’s pillars must be located between the earth’s surface and the core. In particular, the pillars of the earth could simply be vertically-oriented crystalline rock.

It is widely believed that there is such a shell of crystalline rock inside the earth. This shell is generally called the mantle of the earth. Occasionally these crystalline forms form above the surface of the earth. In every case they are oriented vertically. There are at least two examples of such rock in the continental United States: Pinnacles National Monument in California, which is not really crystalline in nature; and the other, more graphic example, is found in Devil’s Tower National Monument, Wyoming. Thus we conclude that Job 26:7 would appear to support a spheroidal earth.

Conclusion

In summary, the Bible teaches that the earth is basically a flat in shape; that there are pillars which undergird the world and which we conclude to be the crystalline rock corresponding to what we commonly call the mantle; that there are an unspecified number of foundations which range in size all the way from the foundations of the hills and mountains (called roots in modern science) to the usearchable core of the earth and to the very foundation which is the Lord Jesus Christ himself. This is the view of the earth which the Bible presents, the view of a flat earth on pillars which are, in turn, placed on a foundation. Bible critics are thus shown to be wrong in their view of what the Bible teaches on the matter of the shape of the earth. Also made manifest is their inability or else lack of desire to study firsthand and in detail the teachings of the Bible on this matter in particular, and, by implication, any Biblical matter. Knowing much about the Bible, they know little of the Bible, and we are so justified in viewing with due skepticism any man who uncritically prefixes his remarks with: “The Bible is not a textbook on science.”

The Biblical Astronomer

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370,000 Pieces of Junk in Space

Junk-in-spaceWe are told that there are from 22,000 to 370,000 pieces of debris surround earth. The Daily Mail, and English newspaper reported 22,000 pieces and they are also traveling at 22,000mph. Oh really? What a coincidence! What are the chances of these two number matching up?

Some other thoughts are:

Why the disparity so great?

Who counted the pieces of junk?

Why aren’t satellites being destroyed by them?

The “picture” above of the “space junk” was taken by Michael Najjar. How was this taken? By what satellite? How can such small pieces show up in film? How can they show up without streaks of light?

If all of this is true, satellites would be hit by these pieces. Even one travling at 22,000 would about 22 plus times faster than a bullet. Why aren’t astronauts and cosmonauts afraid to be in space? Surely, someone satellites should have been hit by the debris; surely some debris would have hit the space station. But no, there is not talk of this and no accidents. The reason why there are no accidents is because there are no satellites!

This “picture” of the space junk looks like it could have been done by hand. Heck, you don’t need a computer to do it; all you need is some white and black pain and a piece of canvas.

Now, how do you like giving NASA 17 billion dollars a year?

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With the flat earth why use fiber optic cables?

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If we had satellites that can do the communication why use cables? Also, if satellites are what iphones rely on, why do you get dead zones in some area? If our communication is by satellites, it would be able to beam signals anywhere.

1. Satellites aren’t used because they can’t carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line.

2. The bandwidth available using a single fiber optic cable and a laser beam is much much greater than you can get from a single satellite radio channel. This is due to the higher frequency and shorter wavelength of light compared to microwaves. The higher the frequency, the greater the bandwidth.

3. An undersea cable is a bundle many fiber optic cables. Consider each fiber cable as a channel. You can have more channels, each with a higher capacity, than you can build radio channels into a satellite.

4. The uplinks and downlinks cost and putting the satellite in space is a huge huge ask and far more risky.

5. The delay for satellite communications would be around 255ms both uplink and downlink. For continuous traffic this not to a bad price to pay. But for burst traffic (like voice) you pay for the delay at each pause. The Rule of Thumb is 10MS per 1000 miles so Rule of Thumb to Europe on say TAT-8 would be about 75MS vs 510MS for satellite.6. Finally, you can fix a broken cable. Once you launch the satellite you don’t get a chance to fix it if it gets broke.

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When People Realize The Earth Is Flat – The Charade Is Over

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Richard Snowden

When people realize the earth is flat – the charade is over. That is why NASA and others what to keep it going for as long as they can. Assuming you don’t believe the earth is flat, when you come to terms with, there’ll be other questions you’ll have. In fact, your reality will change.

With the knowledge of the flat earth and the cosmos not being what we are told by the mainstream media, you’ll realise several things. 1 – Aliens are not real, 2 – Evolution is a hoax, 3 – That the God of the Bible is real.

Millions of dollars have been spent on fostering the belief in evolution for a purpose. That purpose it to keep you from believing in a creator God. With the belief in evolution comes the belief “that we can do our own thing.” Also, that there is no right or wrong, no absolutes.

The Jews are happy to keep us “goyum” (Hebrew for cattle) from knowing Jesus; it keeps them “masters” and us obedient slaves. Finally, with a believe in evolution (or any false religion for that matter) it keeps us from entering the Kingdom of God.

What you learn about the flat earth, you’ll find that there are many, many verses in the Bible that tells you things like:

the earth does not move

it’s flat, the Sun goes around the earth

there’s a “firmament” above the earth

that the earth has “ends” to it

In short, what will happen, people will not be falling for the lies that they have been told their whole lives. Some examples are:

People will stop believing in evolution

That we are created by “aliens,” that they will “save” us

That there is a God of the Bible

That Eastern philosophy is false (collectively called “New Age”)

That much of what is told in mainline churches are lies

That the government lies about many other htings

Therefore, once you realise that the earth is flat, you’ll start asking yourself, “What else has the government/educational system/media have lied to us about. That is why you’ll see other conspiracies on this site; that is why you’ll see it on another flat earth site, too.

Some of us “flat earthers” had known about the lies that the government tells us in other areas, and we had known them for years. Then, it was quite recently that we came across the flat earth information. Now, with flat earth videos, blogs and chat forum, people will be exposed to the flat eath truth first THEN learn about the other lies concerning false flag events, historical events and what we are told about “enlightenment and spirituality.” it is the “enlightenment, spirituality” which is cropping up fast now that has to be exposed. So, perhaps your journey has started with the flat earth. For the inquisitive mind, in time, your learn much more about and why life is the way it is. May God guide you in your journey for truth.

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