Is the purpose of the heliocentric belief is to hide the existence of God? Watch this video and you decide.
Is the purpose of the heliocentric belief is to hide the existence of God? Watch this video and you decide.
Here is an old interveiew with a Russian who talks about Admiral Bird’s flight to the Antarctica. He had no knowledge about the flat earth but listen to what he said. This is something that I didn’t know, though I read years ago about Operation High Jump. (Note: at the end someone inserted a commercial – this is not mine.)

One of the biggest crimes committed on Christians is that of charging interest on money. The Bible uses the word “usury,” so what modern preachers AND bankers say is that “We don’t charge usurious rates, we have interest – this is different.” Well, it is is not, as the Bible clearly states “an increase.” Find out what usury/interest does to a nation in this easy to understand booklets on the subject. You will never look at a Banker the same way!
You might be asking what does this do with the flat earth? First, I would like to say, which I said before, is that our people should know that there is more than one massive conspiracy going on. When we know what lies are being told us, we can prepare accordingly. As far as the flat earth, if you haven’t read the booklets below, I highly recommend you do, then you’ll better understand what I’m about to say.
We all know that NASA received billions of US tax dollars each year. I heard a recent figure of $13 billion. As a banker, the more that the government borrows the more money they make – naturally. Since the US government can’t pay its loans, this interest is carried over each year. In short, the Bankers make even more money. Now, as far as the money that NASA borrows, the Banksters (similar to gangsters) like the people are told the earth is a globe, otherwise, there would be no agency such as NASA. And, the same can be said by other space agencies in Europe, Japan and China. Naturally, the Bankers probably really believes the earth is a globe. But if the the world woke up to learn that the earth is flat, all of these government space agencies will cease to exist, thus, the profits for the International Bankers will be that much less. Yes, it’s small in the total sum of what is borrowed but it does contribute to the total that is borrowed.
Note: Be sure to check Other Conspiracies tab on the Home page. More will be added in the future.

Globe earthers believe water falls off a flat earth but not a ball earth. Strange!
There is a double-standard of globe earth believers and they don’t even realise it. The say if the earth is flat everyone will fall off it; water will fall off it. But they believe that water and everything else stays on a spherical earth! Of course, their comeback would be, “But gravity keeps us all on the earth!” Really!
If it’s gravity, then why doesn’t gravity keep us from falling off the earth in a flat earth model? It seems like gravity can’t exist on a flat earth but it can on a globe earth? Another double-standard.
Of course, gravity does not exist. (Things that are heavier than air falls but that is not gravity.) As far as us not falling off this flat earth of ours is because everything is contained by the Antarctica and its ice wall.

“Star Trails in Northern Skies” Click Here.
These two time-exposures show the paths traced by the stars as they swarm around the Pole over a period of about eight hours. As the nearest bright star to the Pole, Polaris appears as the small bright crescent in the center of the images.
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Lest anyone wonder how these stars can be going around the earth viewer every 24 hour day as the time exposures plainly show, there is the usual heliocentric explanation under this picture: “As the Earth turns on its axis, the stars in the sky seem to turn around the North Celestial Pole.”
The familiar saying about a picture being worth a thousand words was never better illustrated than in the cosmological phenomena depicted above. Hundreds of photographs showing this phenomenon with varying lengths of time exposure are available on the Net.
If you can do so for a few minutes, just lay aside the Copernican indoctrination that accompanies such pictures and take a good hard look at these photographs of something that really, really happens every single night.
Do you see what I see? I see all the visible stars in the northern skies going around the North Star in perfect circles. In other words, I see all the stars which these time exposures have recorded actually going around that navigational star that God put there for us in the Northern Hemisphere. Remember: the first two pictures are eight hour exposures. Again, look closely and you can see the third of a circle in the center and in the next star trail or so. This means that each star circles in one 24 hour day (i.e., 23 hours and 56 minutes). (The same thing is captured in circumpolar photos taken in the Southern Hemisphere….)
You see that too, you say, but you “know” that this is really an illusion caused by the Earth rotating West to East ccw every 24 hours. Right? The stars are really not going around the Earth; you want to tell me (as if talking to a seven year old child). It just looks like they are moving because the Earth is rotating around its polar axis, and that rotation gives us the illusion that the stars are actually going around… as any fourth grader will explain to you. If you doubt that is what is really happening, just read under the pictures, for Pete’s sake! Most will tell you the same thing, and the others don’t bother because practically every literate person in the world knows that this is what is happening! mumble, mumble….
Well (…that failed attempt at levity aside), this universally accepted explanation for this phenomena that we can watch with our own eyes and record on our own film is always the same. That is to say, we are assured that what we see and record with our cameras is an illusion caused by the Earth rotating on an axis in an East to West direction at an equatorial speed of c. 1040 MPH.
This universally accepted “explanation” is pure assumption! It is an “explanation” without the first piece of indisputable evidence to support it…and it is in denial of the plentiful evidence that rejects it!
The untouched photos themselves plainly and precisely “explain” what happens to the stars every 23 hours and 56 minutes, namely: They go around a stationary Earth! What we’ve all been taught is an “explanation” is–in fact–just one of seven interdependent assumptions which all interact to uphold the moving Earth mythology [See: Assumptions and Audio Sessions].
It is immensely important for those who don’t like being deceived to step back and decide for themselves which is an illusion and which is the truth about this observable and photographable phenomena! One of the chief reasons why it is immensely important is that this whole business about the stars having to go around the Earth every night is what makes or breaks either the Biblical Model or the Kabbalic Big Bang Model of the Universe. Both models are totally dependent on the truth or falsity of the “explanation” for what we can see and what the photographs show.
So, which is the illusion?! Is what you can watch and see with your own eyes–and record photographically with your camera–an illusion?
A trick of your eyesight? A delusion? Something imagined…not real?
Or, is what you are told by the Theoretical Science Establishment upholding the Kabbalist Model of the universe… by a single thread, i.e., this very issue of a daily rotating Earth!…the unsubstantiated illusion- delusion -deception??
What will it be? Will you trust your eyes (and your camera!) to record the truth of the matter? Or will you trust the anti-Bible Kabbalist religion’s model of the universe? That Model stands or falls on its ability to keep the world believing that those star trails are caused by something all observational and experimental and pictorial evidence denies, i.e., a daily rotating Earth. Click Here
Credit: Fixed earth.com

One argument that Kent Hovind said in one of his debunking videos is, he tried to level his driveway and try as he could, he couldn’t do it – or words to this effect. He was implying that since he couldn’t get his driveway exactly level, that supports the globe earth model. How stupid! The person he had on the video agreed with him, too.
Why doesn’t Kent try a carpenter’s level – it’s not rocket science! lol
Because you can’t make your driveway level does not prove a globe earth OR a flat earth.
Any construction worker or carpenter worth his salt will be able to get what they are working on level. If Kent told a master carpenter that his frame for a wall in the house is not level, he would show him that it is. If he persists, he would tell him to take a hike! When you don’t have something level it is because of the work that you did – NOT because the earth is a sphere!
If I lived in Kansas – which is a flat state – and I made my driveway on a slight incline, does that mean that the state is hilly? Of course not, but this is the silliness that some people go to, including science teachers, to “prove” that the earth is a globe.
By implication, does Kent Hovind think that because we live on a globe there there is no place on earth level?
If I live on a hill and I built my house on level ground and make a driveway on level ground, did I make the hill flat? Of course not, so why do people believe a statement like what Kent Hovind (and others like him) made?
Need I say more?

Note: I have a new video posted in Video 3 Page. The title is: “Missile expert talks about flat earth”
In one of the videos by Kent Hovind on the flat earth, which I think is video 3, he talked about comets and said words to the effect, “Sometime comets break up as it comes to earth because of internal stress caused by gravity. The pull on the front end as it approaches the earth is greater than on the back end. This creates internal stress and the comet breaks up.” Now, when you think about this it’s really foolish! It makes me laugh.
If there was such as thing as “gravitational stress” then why doesn’t it happen to astro-nots when they return to earth? If this really happens, then you’d have the astro-nots pulled to the front of the space capsule as they return to the earth, while the “lessor gravity” is pulling his legs; then there would be internal stress and pull him apart – as it’s suppose to do with the rest of the capsule. You didn’t hear NASA saying that the Apollo capsules (when we were going to the moon) pulled apart upon entry.
When ‘we are told’ that satellites go to other planets, fly by them and continue on, we are not told that they are pulled apart. We are told that we have space probes on Mars and that they are taking pictures, taking soil samples, etc. Thus, they have not been pulled apart. Of course none of this exists but since we are told that they do exist, somehow these satellites are not broken up like comets. In short, what we are told about space by NASA and other space agencies is not consistent. And for a scientist like Kent Hovind believing this – it makes me wonder about him.

I thought I would bring a Bible study in the discussion of the flat earth. This topic would be the words “heaven and earth”. If we examine some of the verses that have the words “heaven” and “earth” we will see how this relates to the flat earth.
(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
(Deu 4:39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
(Jos 2:11) And as soon as we had heard these things, our hearts did melt, neither did there remain any more courage in any man, because of you: for the LORD your God, he is God in heaven above, and in earth beneath.
Here, we are plainly told that earth is beneath heaven. This has great importance in knowing the shape of the earth that we are living on.
If earth is a globe, as we are told, picture this: a globe earth and a section above it with heaven. You can draw this as an area either as big as earth or larger somewhere above. Now, what is wrong with this. Well, to some people heaven is above, but to the other half of the people, heaven is below – IF we live on a sphere.

If you live in Canada, for example, and you see heaven above somewhere; you point up. Now, the people in New Zealand, if they point up, it would be in the opposite direction. So, that could not be heaven. To point to the section of the sky that the Canadians do, they would have to point BELOW, indicating through the earth to to the sky in their direction. This would not be above – as the Bible says.
If Heaven was only above one section of the earth, then even that section would not be under Heaven all the time; since ‘we are told’ that the earth spins, that means that half the day Heaven would be beneath you.
Here are some more verses:
(1Ki 8:23) And he said, LORD God of Israel, there is no God like thee, in heaven above, or on earth beneath, who keepest covenant and mercy with thy servants that walk before thee with all their heart:
(Jer 31:37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
(Joh 3:31) He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Now, a person like Kent Hovind would say, and did say in his flat earth video discussions that, “This is metaphor.” This is his blanket statement to any Bible verse that us flat eathers woud use. Read these verses carefully – do they sound like a metaphor?
Again, Kent has done good work in debunking evolutionists, but when he talks on the flat earth he is wrong. Picture this, someone who is not a Christian but is open to what they say, comes to someone who is a Christian but does not believe in the flat earth. Now, if he went to hear a sermon for the first time and it happened to be on debunking the flat earth, they would hear something like Hovind said in his video.
When this person hears: “Well this is a metaphor,” or “That is a metaphor.” and it doesn’t sound a like a metaphor to this person who is seeking the truth, what will he think? He’ll think, “Maybe the whole Bible is a metaphor or talking in symbolic language. If I need someone to “interpret” the Bible for me, I’ll leave it here in the pew and go my own way!”
What I’m saying is, that by wrong preaching, it turns people away from Christ and from becoming a Christian.
No matter what the intentions is of Kent and Company, they turn people away from the Gospel. But, thanks be Yahweh, God, that he knows the heart of man and will lead them to the truth – if they are really seeking it.
Back to heaven above the earth. For the sake of argument, say heaven is the size of the earth. You have the solar system we are told we live in. So, where would you place heaven that it would be above the earth? Would it be above the plane of the solar system? Would it be off the sheet of paper? If it was off the sheet of paper, would be be 100 miles from you? Would it be in the next country, north-east of your in the town of Branson, Missouri? So, how would this be above the people on the earth? After all if the universe is billions of light years in diameter, you could easily have Heaven 1,000 miles away from you. But even this would be small in comparison to where Heaven could be in relation to the earth.
You have millions of Christians who believe in the Universe but not in evolution and that it got started 6,000 years ago, like Hovind and Company. Then you have Christians who believe it took 13 billions years for us to get here but we were created by God somewhere along the way. What I’m saying is, no matter what these Christians believe in, they all have a problem of where to put Heaven. Of course, you have those who say that all these verse are NOT to be believed literally, so they create an easy cop out to escape dealing with the Bible verses.
In a Universe that is billions of light years in diameter (or whatever shape), no matter where you put Heaven, it will not be above all the people on earth – simply because you can’t do that on a globe. You can get Heaven above a part of the population but not the rest. Now, if you put Heaven somewhere so far away, let me ask you this, what is above? Yes, what is above? What is below? There is no up down, north or south in a Copernican Universe that is like the model we are given – even heliocentric believers will tell you this. And if you are a heliocentric believer, you run into a problem with your Bible. So, when you are in a fix and you can’t get out of it, you just say these Bible verses are not to be believed literally. Then, people who are not firm in their beliefs will view the Bible as something you cannot really read, understand and rely on. Thus, those who hate Christ will have achieved their goal – driving people away from the God of the Bible.
If you are a Christian and believe in the Copernican Universe, and you put heaven ALL around earth, in all directions so as to completely cover it, you run into problems. Heaven would not be just above but below, too. It would also be on all sides. The word “above and below” would lose all meaning. And, where would heaven be in relation to the the earth? Can you really say it was below, when, if you travel a bit further you would be in Heaven again? No, a believe in the Copernican model of the Universe would make the Bible have no sense – at least in these verse.
As a side note, if there was a Universe as we are told and man went into space, he would COMPLETELY lose all sense of direction. We wouldn’t know where to go. I would compare this to being in a “white out”. If you don’t know what a white out is or never experienced it, let me explain. A “white out” is in a blinding snow storm where there is snow on the ground, and snow falling so think that you can’t see other object or colors except white. When you try to walk you have no idea where you are; your sense of direction is completely gone. Skiers on mountains during a snow storm will tell you this. You can even be in your town and experience this. Imagine being out in space, this is how it would be. So, all this nonsense of space exploration and visitation from Aliens from other planets is just a lie.
Yahweh, God gave us a plane where there is an “up” and “down”. And everything is in relation to that. He showed us, by these verses, that Heaven is higher than earth, His ways are higher than our ways, His throne is ABOVE THE EARTH. And, you can’t have God’s throne in a Copernican Universe and have it make any sense.
When we look at these verses as literal – which is what they are – the earth has to be flat. The earth can’t be anything else in light of these scriptures. This also means that Heaven is flat, too. Picture a floor that is called Heaven, and below that is another floor that is earth. The floors of both places have to be level and they have to be parallel to each other.
Christians who believe in a Universe that is taught us in school, would have to believe in a Heaven that it speeding and turning through space just as fast as the earth is suppose to be; Heaven would have to mirror all the gyrations that earth goes through. When you think of it, it’s all nonsense. No, the earth is flat and stationary and Heaven above is flat and stationary.
In short you cannot mix Scripture with lies. If you combined the two, you’ll get either bad science or you’d have to distort the meaning of various verses of the Bible to suit the lie. Unfortunately, this is what heliocentric Christians do; they are left with a belief in junk-science and distorted Scripture.
Some Bible References:
Gen_1:20; Gen_27:39; Exo_20:4; Deu_4:39; Deu_5:8; Jos_2:11; 1Ki_8:23; 1Ch_29:11; Psa_103:11; Psa_148:13; Jer_31:37; Joh_3:31; Act_2:19; Jas_5:12;

We are told that signals are sent to satellites millions of miles way to do activate some electronic device. And signals from satellites communicate back pictures and other tests that are carried out. Two way conversations are made to astro-nots on the International Space Station with no problem. Yet, many times you can’t receive a radio station 100 miles away – how strange!
So, how is it that signals can be sent millions of miles away and be received with no problem? How can signals be sent from Pluto – over a billion miles away – and be received with clear pictures of the planet’s surface?
People with mobile phones get poor signals in certain areas of their town or when they are in the hills somewhere. The signals we do receive, whether it be for mobile phones, the internet, TV or radio are sent via: micro wave towers, wires or cables, etc. We have relay towers all over the earth and if we didn’t we wouldn’t receive signals. Thus, how can radio waves be sent with color pictures no less – which takes up a lot of memory – and be sent hundreds of millions of miles to earth? How can all of this be done WITHOUT any type of relay station at all?
Then you have space agencies which claims to picks up signals across the galaxies – trillions of miles away. I guess those little Aliens have powerful transmitters on their flying saucers! To think that radio signals can be sent or received from even further distances is ludicrous. Yet everyone has experienced poor reception with their phone or radio when the distance is much, much closer than satellites in space.
The fact is, that space agencies and astronomers creates all this bull.
First, there is no thing as the vastness of space. IF there were trillions of miles of space, regardless of what makes it up, you cannot transmit signals without some form of relay. Sure, we have wireless transmission but that only goes so far. If all you needed was a tower to generate and send a signal and a satellite dish to receive it, why all the microwave towers in between? Why cables under the sea and on the land? The reason why we have them is because we need them. Wireless communication can only go so far.
Here are some questions that I got from one reader. I’m sure that many other heliocentric believers have the same questions. So, here goes…
Moon’s power source?
We don’t know and geocentric believers are humble and truthful enough to say so. We don’t hide our unknown in a bunch of weird math, present it to the people, tell them it’s gravity and can do all sorts of weird things and hope that the people believe it.
The moon has a power, that we don’t know about. But the fact that it does have some kind of power, it prevents it from falling to the earth. The same thing can be said for the sun.
Some flat earthers believe that the sun and moon are in the firmament and there are tracks that the sun and moon follow, verses the sun and moon under the firmament.
If sun is only 32 miles, what is its power source?
We think in terms of “our” power sources, and if it’s not one of them, we throw it out. Well, it’s well know that there has been other forms of energy that are not in common use today that have been discovered over the past 100 years or so. Nikola Tesla, was able to create massive amount of energy from what they called back then, the aether. Over the past 100 years this and other “free energy” sources have been covered up as money can’t be made from something that is free, practically free or universally available.
How much does the sun weight?
Let me ask you, heliocentric believer, how much does your model of the sun weight? You don’t have a real answer, you have one but it’s a lie. It’s a case of “B.S. baffles brains”. If you throw in math based on created figures such as, “The sun is 856,000 in diameter, it’s made of x, x weights 500 pounds per square ton. Now the formula is bla, bla, bla. Therefore the weight is 250 billion tons, for example. Now, believe it or not, the math would be right, and this is where the ‘bs baffles brains’ comes in, but the answer is wrong! Why? Simple, the sun is not that large, the energy source is not what they think it is. So, when the foundations of anything is off, anything built on it would be wrong, too.
Then, you have idiots that say, “I don’t believe because you don’t have the answer to how much the sun weights; you don’t know the energy source that makes the sun and moon move.” Well, these people can go their own way. They will never learn the truth because they are really not seeking the truth.
You don’t have to know all the answers to believe in something. Regarding the flat earth, knowing that water always seeks its own level is enough. And if that is not enough for some people, they can go their own way, as their questions will not be answered.
Geocentric believers admit they don’t know. Even not knowing something does not negate the fundamental facts that the earth is flat and stationary.
Is it subject to the law of mass?
Good question. Yes, everything is subject to the law of mass (things that are heavier than air falls). HOWEVER, if it has its own power source it can defy falling to the ground. How do you think a rocket flies? It has its own energy source. Even a human being can defy it by jumping. We exert energy and go up in the air, but since that energy is very little, we come down in a second.
What keeps it from crashing to the ground?
Another unknown that we admit we don’t have the answer to – unlike heliocentric people who create a convoluted thing that’s called ‘gravity’. I wonder if globe earth believers would be happy if I made something up and add a lot of math to it (that they don’t understand) – would they be happy than?
Some people are in ‘damage control’ always reverting to this so-called “gravity”. People will never believe in planets going around suns at fantastic speeds, tilting and spinning at the same time. People will never believe huge masses of planets going fantastic speeds without detecting any power source at all – either by instruments or by their own sense – UNLESS something called ‘relativity’ was created by someone who was promoted as a genius. Add a lot of math to it – to create the “smoke and mirrors” – and WALA, THEN you can get people to believe in this thing called “gravity.”
Has it been peered reviewed?
The short answer is, NO. Does it need to be?
Who control the ‘peer review review people – globe earth or flat earth believers? And there, you’ll have your answer.
There is “peer review” in just about every area of science, and if they are “the be all end all” of everything; if they are the citadel of truth, then why is the world in such a mess?!