Telling My Step-granddaughter About the Flat Earth

Teaching the flat earth via mathematics

umbrella-1My step-daughter and her daughter came over for a visit. My step-granddaughter is 13 years old and it was 9 years since I had last seen her. Since I like to teach I thought I’d have a little lesson for her. Isabel told me that she likes math, so I thought it would be good to introduce the formula that astronomers use to determine the declination of the earth. You all know the formula – 8 inches times the distance squared.

As I wrote this down and explained it to her, I asked her if she knows how to square the distance. She did. I had her do some multiplication and division. I gave her her first math problem – which she got right. Then I went on to say that we are told that you cannot see anyone that is 6 miles away. Yet, in reality we can see someone 6 miles away – even though you have to use a telescope. I explained that the formula is right and this is what globe earth believers tell us.

I like to stir curiosity into my teaching; as humans we are strongly motivated to learn more when this is done. I told to her, “Isabel, would like to know a math problem that the teacher will not be able to solve?”

“Yes,” was her response.

I built up the curiosity more by saying, “How would you like to be able to solve this problem that your teacher would not be able to? And, how would you like to look like a hero?”

Again, Isabel said, “Yes!”

After showing the math and explaining to her that it would be impossible to see a person 6 miles away because of the curve in the earth. Yet, we are able to do so. She could not figure this out. Later, she thought it was because the person is too small and the earth too big to do this.

I said, “The only answer can be is that the earth is not a globe?

She didn’t believe this, so I continued by asking her a couple of questions. “Can you put water on a ball?”

She said, “No.”

“Can you put water on the side of anything and have it remain there?”

Again, Isabel said, “No.”

“So, how can we expect water to stay on a huge ball – the earth – if the earth is round?”

She thought about this for a moment and said, “It’s gravity,” thinking she had the answer.

I said, “If it’s gravity, why doesn’t it keep water on a ball? Why doesn’t it keep water on a big ball. Why doesn’t it keep water on a heavy ball?”

At this point, she had to think about this.

So, I bought up other questions that she might ask later on; then I answered those questions. I brought up the sun and we see it round and it moves and the moon – the same thing. I then explained how it was the sun and moon that was moving and not the earth.

Then Isabel brought up the boat and how it goes over the curve. I said that if you watch it ‘disappear’ you can see it again with a telescope and that we all know that a telescope cannot see though things. So, this proves that the earth is flat.

Slowly but surely she learned of the flat earth. Well, since the time I told her this, we had a party going in the house – sort of a family reunion – where there were 12 people.

All of this took place Wednesday, 27 April, 2016. (Yesterday, at the time of this Post.)

After our little lesson, she took the paper that I was writing on, upstairs. Then she came down, went out side all excited to tell her mother, “Mum, do you know that the earth is flat?!” she exclaimed in her little voice. Her uncle was there, heard it and laughed. It was about a minute later when I came out and Isabel was still talking to him when Steve said to me, “So, you think the earth is flat?” I said, “I just wanted to show her that the maths point this out.” This stop his laughing and he just thought that is was some kind of game I played.

A minute later when we were away from the naysayers, I said to Isabel, “I had no idea that you were going to tell others. You have to keep this to yourself as most people do not believe this.”

teaching-flat-earthI had not thought about this when I was teaching Isabel the math and should have said something at that time. Well, no harm done, as her mother and uncle thought this was a parlour trick. My wife knows that the earth is flat, so there IS agreement between her and me.

I had to inform my little step-granddaughter that she has to learn more about this before she brings it up; just give people a link to a good video and let them decided. At her young and tender age she should not bring this up in school, as the kids would laugh as well as the teacher. They will not take the time to study it and, quite frankly, people are too brainwashed. People, young and old, want to be part of a crowd and don’t want to be booted out because of their beliefs.

Some may say, “You should not have said anything to a 13 year old; maybe if she was older, OK.” I disagree with that. That is like saying, “You should not tell your child about Jesus Christ and the Old Testament stories as they would be laughed at. We all know that most people are not Christians at school and Christians seem to be keeping silent now. Yet, we Christians know that we should tell our children about the Bible. We know that they will get flack for their beliefs but we tell them anyway. Many children laugh at others about the Christian beliefs but that is just the chance they have to take. Naturally, we prepare them and say if they don’t want to listen, then don’t force it on them. The verbal attacks and snickers eventually stop and the kids play together again.

I hope that the above will give you some ideas of how to introduce the flat earth children. Children have a natural curiosity and they want to learn. So, we should introduce that to our teaching. When they learn the truth about this, they will – hopefully – learn other Bible truths. Thus, they are better prepared for life ahead. Truth helps people in life: they know what is right and wrong, who to trust, how to act, and how to live a good life.

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No Axial or Orbital Motion to the Earth

No Axial or Orbital Motion to the Earth

no earth axisIF a ball is allowed to drop from the mast-head of a ship at rest, it will strike the deck at the foot of the mast. If the same experiment is tried with a ship in motion, the same result will follow; because, in the latter case, the ball is acted upon simultaneously by two forces at right angles to each other–one, the momentum given to it by the moving ship in the direction of its own motion; and the other, the force of gravity, the direction of which is at right angles to that of the momentum. The ball being acted upon by the two forces together, will not go in the direction of either, but will take a diagonal course, as shown in the following diagram, fig. 46.

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FIG. 46.

The ball passing from A to C, by the force of gravity, and having, at the moment of its liberation, received a momentum . from the moving ship in the direction A, B, will, by the conjoint action of the two forces A, B, and A, C, take the direction A, D, falling at D, just as it would have fallen at C, had the vessel remained at rest.

It is argued by those who hold that the earth is a revolving globe, that if a ball is dropped from the mouth of a deep mine, it reaches the bottom in an apparently vertical direction, the same as it would if the earth were motionless. In the same way, and from the same cause, it is said that a ball allowed to drop from the top of a tower, will fall at the base. Admitting the fact that a ball dropped down a mine, or let fall from a high tower, reaches the bottom in a direction parallel to the side of either, it does not follow therefrom that the earth moves. It only follows that the earth might move, and yet allow of such a result. It is certain that such a result would occur on a stationary earth; and it is mathematically demonstrable that it would also occur on a revolving earth; but the question of motion or non-motion–of which is the fact it does not decide. It gives no proof that the ball falls in a vertical or in a diagonal direction. Hence, it is logically valueless. We must begin the enquiry with an experiment which does not involve a supposition or an ambiguity, but which will decide whether motion does actually or actually does not exist. It is certain, then, that the path of a ball, dropped from the mast-head of a stationary ship will be vertical. It is also certain that, dropped down a deep mine, or from the top of a high tower, upon a stationary earth, it would be vertical. It is equally certain that, dropped from the mast-head of a moving ship, it would be diagonal; so also upon a moving earth it would be diagonal. And as a matter of necessity, that which follows in one case would follow in every other case, if, in each, the conditions were the same. Now let the experiment shown in fig. 46 be modified in the following way:–

Let the ball be thrown upwards from the mast-head of a stationary ship, and it will fall back to the mast-head, and pass downwards to the foot of the mast. The same result would follow if the ball were thrown upwards from the mouth of a mine, or the top of a tower, on a stationary earth. Now put the ship in motion, and let the ball be thrown upwards. It will, as in the first instance, partake of the two motions–the upward or vertical, A, C, and the horizontal, A, B, as shown in fig. 47; but

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FIG. 47.

because the two motions act conjointly, the ball will take the diagonal direction, A, D. By the time the ball has arrived at D, the ship will have reached the position, 13; and now, as the two forces will have been expended, the ball will begin to fall, by the force of gravity alone, in the vertical direction, D, B, H; but during its fall towards H, the ship will have passed on to the position S, leaving the ball at H, a given distance behind it.

The same result will be observed on throwing a ball upwards from a railway carriage, when in rapid motion, as shown in the following diagram, fig. 48. While the carriage or tender passes

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FIG. 48.

from A to B, the ball thrown upwards, from A towards (2, will reach the position D; but during the time of its fall from D to B, the carriage will have advanced to S, leaving the ball behind at B, as in the case of the ship in the last experiment.

The same phenomenon would be observed in a circus, during the performance of a juggler on horseback, were it not that the balls employed are thrown more or less forward, according to the rapidity of the horse’s motion. The juggler standing in the ring, on the solid ground, throws his balls as vertically as he can, and they return to his hand; but when on the back of a rapidly-moving horse, he should throw the balls vertically, before they fell back to his hands, the horse would have taken him in advance, and the whole would drop to the ground behind him. It is the same in leaping from the back of a horse in motion. The performer must throw himself to a certain degree forward. If he jumps directly upwards, the horse will go from under him, and he would fall behind.

Thus it is demonstrable that, in all cases where a ball is thrown upwards from an object moving at right angles to its path, that ball will come down to a place behind the point from which it was thrown; and the distance at which it falls behind depends upon the time the ball has been in the air. As this is the result in every instance where the experiment is carefully and specially performed, the same would follow if a ball were discharged from any point upon a revolving earth. The causes or conditions operating being the same, the same effect would necessarily follow.

The experiment shown in fig. 49, demonstrates, however, that

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FIG. 49.

these causes, or conditions, or motion in the earth, do not exist.

A strong cast-iron cannon was placed with the muzzle upwards. The barrel was carefully tested with a plumb line, so that its true vertical direction was secured; and the breech of the gun was firmly embedded in sand up to the touch-hole, against which a piece of slow match was placed. The cannon had been loaded with powder and ball, previous to its position being secured. At a given moment the slow match at D was fired, and the operator retired to a shed. The explosion took place, and the ball was discharged in the direction A, B. In thirty seconds the ball fell back to the earth, from B to C; the point of contact, C, was only 8 inches from the gun, A. This experiment has been many times tried, and several times the ball fell back upon the mouth of the cannon; but the greatest deviation was less than 2 feet, and the average time of absence was 28 seconds; from which it is concluded that the earth on which the gun was placed did not move from its position during the 28 seconds the ball was in the atmosphere. Had there been motion in the direction from west to east, and at the rate of 600 miles per hour (the supposed velocity in the latitude of England), the result would have been as shown in fig. 49. The ball, thrown by the powder in the direction A, C, and acted on at the same moment by the earth’s motion in the direction A, B, would take the direction A, D; meanwhile the earth and the cannon would have reached the position B, opposite to D. On the ball beginning to descend, and during the time of its descent, the gun would have passed on to the position S, and the ball would have dropped at B, a consider-able distance behind the point S. As the average time of the ball’s absence in the atmosphere was 28 seconds–14 going upwards, and 14 in falling–we have only to multiply the time by the supposed velocity of the earth, and we find that instead of the ball coming down to within a few inches of the muzzle of the gun, it should have fallen behind it a distance of 8400 feet, or more than a mile and a half! Such a result is utterly destructive of the idea of the earth’s possible rotation.

The reader is advised not to deceive himself by imagining that the ball would take a parabolic course, like the balls and shells from cannon during a siege or battle. The parabolic curve could only be taken by a ball fired from a cannon inclined more or less from the vertical; when, of course, gravity acting in an angular direction against the force of the gunpowder, the ball would be forced to describe a parabola. But in the experiment just detailed, the gun was fixed in a perfectly vertical direction, so that the ball would be fired in a line the very contrary to the direction of gravity. The force of the powder would drive it directly upwards, and the force of gravity would pull it directly downwards. Hence it could only go up in a right line, and down or back to its starting point; it could not possibly take a path having the slightest degree of curvature. It is therefore demanded that, if the earth has a motion from west to east, a ball, instead of being dropped down a mine, or allowed to fall from the top of a tower, shall be shot upwards into the air, and from the moment of its beginning to descend, the surface of the earth shall turn from under its direction, and it would fall behind, or to the west of its line of descent. On making the most exact experiments, however, no such effect is observed; and, therefore, the conclusion is in every sense unavoidable, that THE EARTH HAS NO MOTION OF ROTATION.

EXPERIMENT 3

When sitting in a rapidly-moving railway carriage, let a spring-gun 1 be fired forward, or in the direction in which the train is moving. Again, let the same gun be fired, but in the opposite direction; and it will be found that the ball or other projectile will always go farther in the first case than in the latter.

If a person leaps backwards from a horse in full gallop, he cannot jump so great a distance as he can by jumping forward. Leaping from a moving sledge, coach, or other object, backwards or forwards, the same results are experienced.

Many other practical cases could be cited to show that any body projected from another body in motion, does not exhibit the same behaviour as it does when projected from a body at rest. Nor are the results the same when projected in the same direction as that in which the body moves, as when projected in the opposite direction; because, in the former case, the projected body receives its momentum from the projectile force, plus that given to it by the moving body; and in the latter case, this momentum, minus that of the moving body. Hence it would be found that if the earth is a globe, and moving rapidly from west to east, a cannon fired in a due easterly direction would send a ball to a greater distance than it would if fired in a due westerly direction. But the most experienced artillerymen–many of whom have had great practice, both at home and abroad, in almost every latitude–have declared that no difference whatever is observable. That in charging and pointing their guns, no, difference in the working is ever required, notwithstanding that the firing is at every point of the compass. Gunners in war ships have noticed a considerable difference in the results of their firing from guns at the bow, when sailing rapidly towards the object fired at, and when firing from guns placed at the stern while sailing away from the object: and in both cases the results are different to those observed when firing from a ship at perfect rest. These details of practical experience are utterly incompatible with the supposition of a revolving earth.

During the period of the Crimean War, the subject of gunnery, in connection with the earth’s rotation, was one which occupied the attention of many philosophers, as well as artillery officers and statesmen. About this time, Lord Palmerston, as Prime Minister, wrote the following letter to Lord Panmure, the Secretary for War:–

“December 20th, 1857.

“My dear Panmure.

“There is an investigation which it would be important and at the same time easy to make, and that is, whether the rotation of the earth on its axis has any effect on the curve of a cannon-ball in its flight. One should suppose that it has, and that while the cannon-ball is flying in the air, impelled by the gunpowder in a straight line from the cannon’s mouth, the ball would not follow the rotation of the earth in the same manner which it would do if lying at rest on the earth’s surface. If this be so, a ball fired in the meridional direction–that is to say, due south or due north–ought to deviate to the west of the object at which it was aimed, because during the time of flight, that object will have gone to the east somewhat faster than the cannon-ball will have done. In like manner, a ball fired due east, ought to fly less far upon the earth’s surface than a ball fired due west, the charges being equal, the elevation the same, and the atmosphere perfectly still. It must be remembered, however, that the ball, even after it has left the cannon’s mouth, will retain the motion from west to east which it had before received by the rotation of the earth on whose surface it was; and it is possible, therefore, that, except at very long ranges, the deviations above mentioned may in practice turn out to be very small, and not deserving the attention of an artilleryman. The trial might be easily made in any place in which a free circle of a mile or more radius could be obtained; and a cannon placed in the centre of that circle, and fired alternately north, south, east, and west, with equal charges, would afford the means of ascertaining whether each shot flew the same distance or not.

“Yours sincerely,

“PALMERSTON.”

The above letter was published, by Lord Dalhousie’s permission, in the “Proceedings of the Royal Artillery Institution for 1867.”

It will be observed that Lord Palmerston thought that firing eastwards, or in the direction of the earth’s supposed rotation, the ball would “fly less far upon the earth’s surface than a ball fired due west.” It is evident that his Lordship did not allow for the extra impulse given to the ball by the earth’s motion. But the answer given by the advocates of the theory of the earth’s motion is the following: Admitting that a ball fired from the earth at rest would go, say two miles, the same ball, fired from the earth in motion, would go, say three miles; but during the time the ball is passing through the air, the earth will advance one mile in the same direction. This one mile deducted from the three miles which the ball actually passes through the air, leaves the two miles which the ball has passed in advance of the cannon; so that practically the distance to which a ball is projected is precisely the same upon a moving earth as it is upon the earth at rest. The following diagram, fig. 50, will illustrate the path of a ball under the conditions above described.

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FIG. 50.

Let the curved line A, B, represent the distance a ball would fly from a cannon placed at A, upon the earth, at rest. Let A, C, represent the distance the same ball would fly from the conjoint action of the powder in the cannon, A, and the earth’s rotation in the direction A, C. During the time the ball would require to traverse the line A, C, the earth and the cannon would arrive at the point D; hence the distance D, C, would be the same as the distance A, B.

The above explanation is very ingenious, and would be perfectly satisfactory if other considerations were not involved in it. For instance, the above explanation does not prove the earth’s motion–it merely supposes it; but as in all other cases where the result of supposition is explained, it creates a dilemma. It demands that during the time the ball is in the air, the cannon is advancing in the direction of the supposed motion of the earth. But -this is granting the conditions required in the experiments represented by figs. 47, 48, and 49. If the cannon can advance in the one case, it must in the other; and as the result in the experiment represented at fig. 49, was that the ball, when fired vertically, essentially returned to the vertical cannon; that cannon could not have advanced, and therefore the earth could not have moved.

EXPERIMENT 4

Take a large grinding stone, and let the whole surface of the rim be well rubbed over with a saturated solution of phosphorus in olive oil; or cover the stone with several folds of coarse woollen cloth or flannel, which saturate with boiling water. If it be now turned rapidly round, by means of a multiplying wheel, the phosphoric vapour, or the steam from the flannel, which surrounds it and which may be called its atmosphere–analogous to the atmosphere of the earth–will be seen to follow the direction of the revolving surface. Now the surface of the earth is very irregular in its outline, mountains rising several miles above the sea, and ranging for hundreds of miles in every possible direction; rocks, capes, cliffs, gorges, defiles, caverns, immense forests, and every other form of ruggedness and irregularity calculated to adhere to and drag along whatever medium may exist upon it: and if it is a globe revolving on its axis, with the immense velocity at the equator of more than a thousand miles an hour, it is exceedingly difficult if not altogether impossible to conceive of such a mass moving at such a rate, and yet not taking the atmosphere along with it.

When it is considered, too, that the medium which it is said surrounds the earth and all the heavenly bodies, and filling all the vast spaces between them, is almost too ethereal and subtle to offer any sensible resistance, it is still more difficult to understand how the atmosphere can be prevented being carried forward with the earth’s rapidly revolving surface. Study the details of pneumatics or hydraulics as we may, we cannot suggest an experiment which will show the possibility of such a thing. Hence we are compelled to conclude that if the earth revolves, the atmosphere revolves also, and in the same direction. If the atmosphere rushes forward from west to east continually, we are again obliged to conclude that whatever floats or is suspended in it, at any altitude, must of necessity partake of its eastward motion. A piece of cork, or any other body floating in still water, will be motionless, but let the water be put in motion, in any direction whatever, and the floating bodies will move with it, in the same direction and with the same velocity. Let the experiment be tried in every possible way, and these results will invariable follow. Hence if the earth’s atmosphere is in constant motion from west to east, all the different strata which are known to exist in it, and all the various kinds of clouds and vapours which float in it must of mechanical necessity move rapidly eastwards. But what is the fact? If we fix upon any star as a standard or datum outside the visible atmosphere, we may sometimes observe a stratum of clouds going for hours together in a direction the very opposite to that in which the earth is supposed to be moving. See fig. 51, which represents a section of a

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Fig. 51

globe, surrounded with an atmosphere, moving at the rate of 1042 miles an hour at the equator, and in the direction of the arrows 1, 2, 3, while a stream of clouds are moving in the opposite direction, as indicated by the arrows, 4, 5, 6. Not only may a stratum of clouds be seen moving rapidly from east to west, but at the same moment other strata may often be seen moving from north to south, and from south to north. It is a fact well known to aeronauts, that several strata of atmospheric air are often moving in as many different directions at the same time. It is a knowledge of this fact which leads an experienced aeronaut, when desiring to rise in a balloon, and to go in a certain direction, not to regard the manner in which the wind is blowing on the immediate surface of the earth, because he knows that at a greater altitude, it may be going at right angles, or even in opposite and in various ways simultaneously. To ascertain whether and at what altitude a current is blowing in the desired direction, small, and so-called “pilot-balloons” are often sent up and carefully observed in their ascent. If during the passage of one of these through the variously moving strata, it is seen to enter a current which is going in the direction desired by the aëronaut, the large balloon is then ballasted in such a manner that it may ascend at once to the altitude of such current, and thus to proceed on its journey.

On almost any moonlight and cloudy night, different strata may be seen not only moving in different directions but, at the same time, moving with different velocities; some floating past the face of the moon rapidly and uniformly, and others passing gently along, sometimes becoming stationary, then starting fitfully into motion, and often standing still for minutes together. Some of those who have ascended in balloons for scientific purposes have recorded that as they have rapidly passed through the atmosphere, they have gone though strata differing in temperature, in density, and in hygrometric, magnetic, electric, and other conditions. These changes have been noticed both in ascending and descending, and in going for miles together at the same altitude.

“On the 27th November, 1839, the sky being very clear, the planet Venus was seen near the zenith, notwithstanding the brightness of the meridian sun. It enabled us to observe the higher stratum of clouds to be moving in an exactly opposite direction to that of the wind–a circumstance which is frequently recorded in our meteorological journal both in the north-east and south-east trades, and has also often been observed by former voyagers. Captain Basil Hall witnessed it from the summit of the Peak of Teneriffe; and Count Strzelechi, on ascending the volcanic mountain of Kiranea, in Owhyhee, reached at 4000 feet an elevation above that of the trade wind, and experienced the influence of an opposite current of air of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition. . . . Count Strzelechi further informed me of the following seemingly anomalous circumstance–that at the height of 6000 feet he found the current of air blowing at right angles to both the lower strata, also of a different hygrometric and thermometric condition, but warmer than the inter-stratum.” 1

Such a state of the atmosphere is compatible only with the fact which other evidence has demonstrated, that the earth is at rest. Were it otherwise-if a spherical mass of eight thousand miles in diameter, with an atmosphere of only fifty miles in depth, or relatively only as a sheet of note paper pasted upon a globe of one yard in diameter, and lying upon a rugged, adhesive, rapidly revolving surface, there is nothing to prevent such an atmosphere becoming a mingled homogeneous mass of vapour.

Notwithstanding that all practical experience, and all specially instituted experiments are against the possibility of a moving earth, and an independent moving and non-moving atmosphere, many mathematicians have endeavoured to “demonstrate” that with regard to this earth, such was actually the case. The celebrated philosophic divine, Bishop Wilkins, was reasoned by the theorists of his day into this belief; and, in consequence, very naturally suggested a new and easy way of travelling. He proposed that large balloons should be provided with apparatus to work against the varying currents of the air. On ascending to a proper altitude, the balloon was to be kept practically in a state of rest, while the earth revolved underneath it; and when the desired locality came into view, to stop the working of the fans, &c., to let out the gas, and drop down at once to the earth’s surface. In this simple way New York would be reached in a few hours, or rather New York would reach the balloon, at the rate, in the latitude of England, of more than 600 miles an hour.

The argument involved in the preceding remarks against the earth’s rotation has often been met by the following, at first sight, plausible statement. A ship with a number of passengers going rapidly in one continued direction, like the earth’s atmosphere, could nevertheless have upon its deck a number of distinctly and variously moving objects, like the clouds in the atmosphere. The clouds in the atmosphere are compared to the passengers on the deck of a ship; so far the cases are sufficiently parallel, but the passengers are sentient beings, having within themselves the power of distinct and independent motions: the clouds are the reverse; and here the parallelism fails. One case is not illustrative of the other, and the supposition of rotation in the earth remains without a single fact or argument in its favour. Birds in the air, or fish and reptiles in the water, would have offered a parallel and illustrative case, but these, like the passengers on the ship’s deck, are sentient and independent beings; clouds and vapours are dependent and non-sentient, and must therefore of necessity move with, and in the direction of, the medium in which they float.

Everything actually observable in Nature; every argument furnished by experiment; every legitimate process of reasoning; and, as it would seem, everything which it is possible for the human mind practically to conceive, combine in evidence against the doctrine of the earth’s motion upon axes.

ORBITAL MOTION.–The preceding experiments and remarks, logically and mathematically suffice as evidence against the assumed motion of the earth in an orbit round the sun. It is difficult, if not impossible, to understand how the behaviour of the ball thrown from a vertical gun should be other in relation to the earth’s forward motion in space, than it is in regard to its motion upon axes. Besides, it is demonstrable that it does not move upon axes, and therefore, the assumption that it moves in an orbit, is utterly useless for theoretical purposes. The explanation of phenomena, for which the theory of orbital and diurnal motion was framed, is no longer possible with a globular world rushing through space in a vast elliptical orbit, but without diurnal rotation. Hence the earth’s supposed orbital motion is logically void, and non-available, and there is really no necessity for either formally denying it, or in any way giving it further consideration. But that no point may be taken without direct and practical evidence, let the following experiment be tried.

Take two carefully-bored metallic tubes, not less than six feet in length, and place them one yard asunder, on the opposite sides of a wooden frame, or a solid block of wood or stone: so adjust them that their centres or axes of vision shall be perfectly parallel to each other. The following diagram will show the arrangement.

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Fig. 52

Now, direct them to the plane of some notable fixed star, a few seconds previous to its meridian time. Let an observer be stationed at each tube, as at A, B; and the moment the star appears in the tube A, T, let a loud knock or other signal be given, to be repeated by the observer at the tube B, T, when he first sees the same star. A distinct period of time will elapse between the signals given. The signals will follow each other in very rapid succession, but still, the time between is sufficient to show that the same star, S, is not visible at the same moment by two parallel lines of sight A, S, and B, C, when only one yard asunder. A slight inclination of the tube, B, C, towards the first tube A, S, would be required for the star, S, to be seen through both tubes at the same instant. Let the tubes remain in their position for six months; at the end of which time the same observation or experiment will produce the same results–the star, S, will be visible at the same meridian time, without the slightest alteration being required in the direction of the tubes: from which it is concluded that if the earth had moved one single yard in an orbit through space, there would at least be observed the slight inclination of the tube, B, C, which the difference in position of one yard had previously required.

But as no such difference in the direction of the tube B, C, is required, the conclusion is unavoidable, that in six months a given meridian upon the earth’s surface does not move a single yard, and therefore, that the earth has not the slightest degree of orbital motion.

Copernicus required, in his theory of terrestrial motions, that the earth moved in an extensive elliptical path round the sun, as represented in the following diagram, fig 53, where S is the

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Fig. 53

sun, A, the earth in its place in June, and B, its position in December; when desired to offer some proof of this orbital motion he suggested that a given star should be selected for observation on a given date; and in six months afterwards a second observation of the same star should be made. The first observation A, D, fig. 53, was recorded; and on observing again at the end of six months, when the earth was supposed to have passed to B, the other side of its orbit, to the astonishment of the assembled astronomers, the star was observed in exactly the same position, B, C, as it had been six months previously! It was expected that it would be seen in the direction B, D, and that this difference in the direction of observation would demonstrate the earth’s motion from A to B, and also furnish, with the distance A, S, B, the elements necessary for calculating the actual distance of the star D.

The above experiment has many times been tried, and always with the same general result. No difference whatever has been observed in the direction of the lines of sight A, D, and B, C, whereas every known principle of optics and geometry would require, that if the earth had really moved from A to B, the fixed star D, should be seen in the direction B, D. The advocates of this hypothesis of orbital motion, instead of being satisfied, from the failure to detect a difference in the angle of observation, that the earth could not possibly have changed its position in the six months, were so regardless of all logical consistency, that instead of admitting, and accepting the consequences, they, or some of them, most unworthily declared that they could not yield up the theory, on account of its apparent value in explaining certain phenomena, but demanded that the star D, was so vastly distant, that, notwithstanding that the earth must have moved from A to B, this great change of position would not give a readable difference in the angle of observation at B, or in other words the amount of parallax (” annual parallax,” it was called) was inappreciable!

Since the period of the above experiments, many have declared that a very small amount of “annual parallax” has been detected. But the proportion given by different observers has been so various, that nothing definite and satisfactory can yet be decided upon. Tycho Brahe, Kepler, and others, rejected the Copernican theory, principally

p. 83

eon account of the failure to detect displacement or parallax of the fixed stars. Dr. Bradley declared that what many had called “parallax,” was merely “aberration.” But “Dr. Brinkley, in 1810, from his observations with a very fine circle in the Royal Observatory of Dublin, thought he had detected a parallax of 1″ in the bright star Lyra (corresponding to an annual displacement of 2″). This, however, proved to be illusory; and it was not till the year 1839, that Mr. Henderson, having returned from filling the situation of astronomer royal to the Cape of Good Hope, and discussing as series of observations made there with a large “mural circle,” of the bright star, α Centauri, was enabled to announce as a positive fact the existence of a measurable parallax for that star, a result since fully confirmed with a very trifling correction by the observations of his successor, Sir T. Maclear. The parallax thus assigned α Centauri, is so very nearly a whole second in amount (0″.98), that we may speak of it as such. It corresponds to a distance from the sun of 18,918,000,000,000 British statute miles.

“Professor Bessel made the parallax of a star in the constellation Cygnus to be 0″.35. Later astronomers, going over the same ground, with more perfect instruments, and improved practice in this very delicate process ‘of observation, have found a somewhat larger result, stated by one at 0″.57, and by another at 0″.51, so that we may take it at 0″.54, corresponding to somewhat less than twice the distance of a Centauri;” 1 or to nearly 38 billions of miles.

It might seem to a non-scientific mind that the differences above referred to of only a few fractions of a second in the parallax of a star, constitute a very slight amount; but in reality such differences involve differences in the distance of such stars of millions of miles, as will be seen by the following quotation from the Edinburgh Review for June, 1850:–

“The rod used in measuring a base line is commonly ten feet long; and the astronomer may be said only to apply this very rod to measure the distance of the fixed stars! An error in, placing a fine dot, which fixes the length of the rod, amounting to one five-thousandth part of an inch, will amount to an excess, of 70 feet in the earth’s diameter; of 316 miles in the sun’s distance, and to 65,200,000 miles in that of the nearest fixed star!

“The second point to which we would advert is, that as the astronomer in his observatory has nothing to do with ascertaining length as distances, except by calculation, his whole skill and artifice are exhausted in the measurement of angles. For it is by these alone that spaces inaccessible can be compared. Happily a ray of light is straight. Were it not so (in celestial spaces at least) there were an end of our astronomy. It is as inflexible as adamant, which our instruments unfortunately are not. Now an angle of a second (3600 to a degree), is a subtle thing, it is an apparent breadth, utterly invisible to the unassisted eye, unless accompanied by so intense a splendour (as in the case of the fixed stars) as actually to raise by its effect on the nerve of sight a spurious image, having a sensible breadth. A silkworm’s fibre subtends an angle of one second at 3½ feet distance. A ball 2½ inches in diameter must be removed in order to subtend an angle of one second, to 43,000 feet, or about 8 miles; while it would be utterly invisible to the sharpest sight aided even by a telescope of some power. Yet it is on the measurement of one single second that the ascertainment of a sensible parallax in any fixed star depends; and an error of one-thousandth of that amount (a quantity still immeasurable by the most perfect of our instruments) would place a fixed star too far or too near by 200,000,000,000 of miles.”

Sir John Herschel says:–

“The observations require to be made with the very best instruments, with the minutest attention to everything which can affect their precision, and with the most rigorous application of an innumerable host of ‘corrections,’ some large, some small, but of which the smallest, neglected or erroneously applied, would be quite sufficient to overlay and conceal from view the minute quantity we are in search of. To give some idea of the delicacies which have to be attended to in this inquiry, it will suffice to mention that the stability not only of the instruments used and the masonry which supports them, but of the very rock itself on which it is founded, is found to be subject to annual fluctuations capable of seriously affecting the result.”

Dr. Lardner, in his “Museum of Science,” page 179, makes use of the following words

“Nothing in the whole range of astronomical research has more baffled the efforts of observers than this question of the parallax. * * * Now, since, in the determination of the exact uranographical position of a star, there are a multitude of disturbing effects to be taken into account and eliminated, such as precession, nutation, aberration, refraction, and others, besides the proper motion of the star; and since, besides the errors of observation, the quantities of these are subject to more or less uncertainty, it will astonish no one to be told that they may en-tail upon the final result of the calculation, an error of 1″; and if they do, it is vain to expect to discover such a residual phenomenon as parallax, the entire amount of which is less than one second.”

The complication, uncertainty, and unsatisfactory state of the question of annual parallax, and therefore of the earth’s motion in an orbit round the sun, as indicated by the several paragraphs above quoted, are at once and for ever annihilated by the simple fact, experimentally demonstrable, that upon a base line of only a single yard, there may be found a parallax, as certain and as great, if not greater, than that which astronomers pretend to find with the diameter of the earth’s supposed orbit of many millions of miles as a base line. To place the whole matter, complicated, uncertain, and unsatisfactory as it is, in a concentrated form, it is only necessary to state as an absolute truth the result of actual experiment, that, a given fixed star will, when observed from the two ends of a base line of not more than three feet, give a parallax equal to that which it is said is observed only from the two extremities of the earth’s orbit, a distance or base line, of one hundred and eighty millions of miles! So far, then, from the earth having passed in six months over the vast space of nearly two hundred millions of miles, the combined observations of all the astronomers of the whole civilized world have only resulted in the discovery of such elements, or such an amount of annual parallax, or sidereal displacement, as an actual change of position of a few feet will produce. It is useless to say, in explanation, that this very minute displacement, is owing to the almost infinite distance of the fixed stars; because the very same stars show an equal degree of parallax from a very minute base line; and, secondly, it will be proved from practical data, in a subsequent chapter, that all the luminaries in the firmament are only a few thousand miles from the surface of the earth.

Footnotes

69:1 The barrel containing a spiral spring, so that the projecting force will always be the same, which might not be so with gunpowder.

77:1 “South Sea Voyages,” p. 14, vol. i. By Sir James Clarke Ross, R.N.

83:1 Sir John F. W. Herschel, Bart., in “Good Words.”

Next: Chapter IV. The True Form and Magnitude of the Earth

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Cause of Sunrise and Sunset

sun earth distance  ALTHOUGH the sun is at all times above the earth’s surface, it appears in the morning to ascend from the north-east to the noonday position, and thence to descend and disappear, or set, in the north-west. This phenomenon arises from the operation of a simple and everywhere visible law of perspective. A flock of birds, when passing over a flat or marshy country, always appears to descend is it recedes; and if the flock is extensive, the first bird appears lower or nearer to the horizon than the last, although they are at the same actual altitude above the earth immediately beneath them. When a balloon sails away from an observer, without increasing or decreasing its altitude, it appears to gradually approach the horizon. In a long row of lamps, the second–supposing the observer to stand at the beginning of the series—will appear lower than the first; the third lower than the .second; and so on to the end of the row; the farthest away always appearing the lowest, although each one has the same altitude; and if such a straight line of lamps could be continued far enough, the lights would at length descend, apparently, to the horizon, or to a level with the eye of the observer, as shown in the following diagram, fig. 63.

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FIG. 63.

Let A, B, represent the altitude throughout of a long row of lamps, standing on the horizontal ground E, D; and C, H, the line of sight of an observer at C. The ordinary principles of perspective will cause an apparent rising of the ground E, D, to the eye-line C, H, meeting it at H; and an apparent descent of each subsequent lamp, from A, to H, towards the same eye-line, also meeting at H. The point H, is the horizon, or the true “vanishing point,” at which the last visible lamp, although it has really the altitude D, B, will disappear.

Bearing in mind the above phenomena it will easily be seen how the sun, although always above and parallel to the earth’s surface, must appear to ascend from the morning horizon to the noonday or meridian position; and thence to descend to the evening horizon.

In the diagram, fig. 64, let the line E, D, represent the

cause-of-sunrise-2

FIG. 64.

surface of the earth; H, H, the morning and evening horizon; and A, S, B, a portion of the true path of the sun. An observer at 0, looking to the east, will first see the sun in the morning, not at A, its true position, but in its apparent position, H, just emerging from the “vanishing point,” or the morning horizon. At nine o’clock, the sun will have the apparent position, 1, gradually appearing to ascend the line H, 1, S; the point S, being the meridian or noonday position. From S, the sun will be seen to gradually descend the line S, 2, H, until he reaches the horizon, H, and entering the “vanishing point,” disappears, to an observer in England, in the west, beyond the continent of North America, as in the morning he is seen to rise from the direction of Northern Asia. An excellent illustration of this “rising” and “setting” of the sun may be seen in a long tunnel, as shown in diagram, fig. 65. The top of the tunnel,

cause-of-sunrise-3

FIG. 65.

1, 2, and, the bottom, 3, 4, although really equi-distant throughout the whole length, would, to an observer in the centre, C, appear to approach each other, and converge at the points, H, H; and a lamp, or light of any kind, brought in, and carried along the top, close to the upper surface 1, 2, would, when really going along the line, 1, S, 2, appear to ascend the inclined plane H, S, to the centre, S, and after passing the centre, to descend the plane S, H; and if the tunnel were sufficiently long, the phenomena of sunrise and of sunset would be perfectly imitated.

A very striking illustration of the convergence of the top and bottom, as well as the sides, of a long tunnel, has been observed in that of Mont Cenis. M. de Porville, when in the centre of the tunnel, noticed that the entrance had apparently become so small that the daylight beyond it seemed like a bright star. “Before us, at an apparently prodigious distance, we beheld a small star at the entrance of the gallery. Its vivid light contrasted strangely with the red glare of the lamps. Its brightness increased as the horses dashed on the way. In a short time its proportions were more clearly defined, and its volume increased. The illusion was quickly dispelled as we got over some kilometres. This soft white light is the extremity of the gallery.” 1

We have seen that “sunrise” and “sunset” are phenomena dependent entirely upon the fact that horizontal lines, parallel to each other, appear to approach or converge in the distance. The surface of the earth being horizontal, and the line of sight of the observer and the sun’s path being over and parallel with it, the rising and setting of the moving sun over the immovable earth are simply phenomena arising necessarily from the laws of perspective.

Footnotes

127:1 “Morning Advertiser,” September 16th, 1871.

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Kent Hovind and the Flat Earth, part 2

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To see the video, click here.

This video starts off with Edrique who said he called a travel agency to see if they have cruises from South America to New Zealand, which they said they did. He found out how long the cruise is and the average speed of the ship. With this, he commutated that it would be impossible for the earth to be round, as the distance would be too great (on a flat earth model the distance is much greater near the southern ridge). He said he had asked around for the answer from flat earthers and he got none. He said he would like to hear any answers from flat earth believer (this would be replying in the video Comments section).

My response

Firstly, I’m sure there are flat earth believers that did respond but he didn’t bother to answer. If that is the case, here is my response below. Secondly, there have been some very good comments under this video and I don’t see ANY response from Edrique or Kent Hovind! WHY? This is strange – for someone who claims to want to get to the truth of this matter.

My response to both of these gentlemen are: Did you actually go on the cruise? If so, did you add in the number of days at sea to see (approximately) how many miles traveled? NO, they didn’t. If he did, he would find out that they lied or that the trip does not take him to the places they said. How can I say that? Easy.

There was another man who tried to prove the same thing but with a flight from Santiago, Chile to Australia. He tried to book online and he found out that along the way, he came to a page where the clicked area was greyed out – he could not proceed any further! Tricky, huh?

He did some more checking and found out the other flights from Chile went via Huston, Texas, then a stop over in Los Angeles, THEN to Australia. He asked why instead of flying directly there. He was told “they had to pick up some passengers in Huston!” Could you believe such nonsense? Yet, this is what they tell people and people believe it.

For people who know the United States, if you were to take a bus from Tucson, Arizona to Huston, would the bus to go Denver to pick up passengers? Of course not. Would the people believe it? In this case, people would know that the travel agent was lying; and if they really did that, there was some other reason that they were keeping secret. Sure, there may be people in Denver who want to go to Huston, but they would get on their own bus! The same with a plane. Yes, if you were to take a flight like this, you would be picking up passengers in Huston and Los Angeles but a plane would not go out of its way to do so IF there was a direct flight from Chile to Australia AND if the flight was shorter. The fact is, the flight would be too long and they would run out of fuel with no place to stop. And this would be the case for a flat earth model.

Edrique might be nieve about Polars Cruise Lines telling them a lie. But if he knows the guy he is working for (Kent Hovind) he would know about the lies that professors, teachers, the media, and just about everyone else in power tell about evolution. Now, if you say that these evolutions are only repeating what they are told and really believe it. This may be so. However, we know the deliberate lies that are told the the U.S. Government that some Middle East terrorist blew up the World Trade Towers. What about the deliberate lie of a how a plane can completely disintegrate a steel structure building. We are told this from official sources, so why not a cruise lines tell a lie about a trip and engage in “bait and switch” tacit? Edrique could book a cruise, put up a deposit and, in a couple of weeks get a call from them to say, “that trip is cancelled, but there is another one available”! A cruse agency could be told by the government to “create” a trip like this but the real purpose in doing so would be to fool the public. The military knowing full well that a trip from South America to Austrail would not be possible so no trip could be made WITHOUT people finding out how that the distance is much greater than a ball earth that is 25,000 miles in circumference.

In short, talking to a travel agent does not prove the earth is a ball.

6:30 “I have yet to see any explanations of the tides. Others have said that there are channels in the earth that affects it.” This is what Edrique said. Did he listen to what he said?! First, he said there were no explanations of why the tides work, then, in the next breath, he gives an answer to what, apparently, a flat earther said. So, this doesn’t count? Apparently that’s how he handles answers that he doesn’t like – he says has not received any answers. Well, this is an answer that, apparently he doesn’t like. So, how do you get through these people?

There are channels in the earth that the oceans drain through that causes the tides and NOT gravity or the pull of the moon. This is why lakes, streams and small bodies of water are not effected. If, what we are told is true, that the moon affects the tides, then it should affect small bodies of water such as lakes, too. In fact, the high and low tide would be much greater as there is “less water to pull!” But it doesn’t and that is ether because it is an enclosed body of water or that the channels are not anywhere near them. For example, the Mediterranean is not affected by tides of any appreciable amount.

14:35 Here, Edrique quotes some Bible verses. I Samuel 2:8, Isaia 40:22, Matthew 24:30, Isaiah 11:12.

I Samuel 2:8

(1Sa 2:8) He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.

Pillars of the earth. He said that there are only 3-4 verses in the Bible that says that. Even if that is so, how many verses does he need? God could say something once and that should be enough. So, this is one of the reasons why this verse is discounted for support of the flat earth model. Visser is asking, “Is this a metaphorical way of explaining something?” This he believes and so does Hovind. IN fact all the verse that the flat earth believers show – that the earth is stationary and does not move – is explained by these two that these verses should not be interpreted literally.

This is just a cop-out on their part.

In the above verse, Edrique said that pillars symbolising strength; strength of the Lord. Yet, the verse plainly says, and it’s on the screen as he talks, “…for the pillars of the earth is the Lord’s…”. So the pillars are related to the earth not to God himself.

If you listen closely, you’ll hear that Edrique does not believe in the pillars of the earth, then Kent says that, “The earth does have pillars,” and Edrique shakes his head in a yes direction. So, why is this guy vacillating back and forth?

18:30 The talk is on Isaiah 40:22 where is stays:

It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

He goes on to say that, “a circle is a two dimensional object,” and Kent adds that it’s really a imaginary construct. Kent says, “It doesn’t have any depth at all or it would be cylinder.” He adds later, “that a circle does not exist.” (20:57).

Now, what they are both doing is splitting hairs, as it were. OK, so technically, this is the case in

2-D geometry, but do they really think that God meant it that way? No, a circle certainly indicates that something is flat whereas a ball – which is the word that Isaiah used in an earlier verse is something different. We use the word “circle” in a matter of speaking and we don’t have to explain it to anyone.

If they believe in a flat earth – just for a moment as a point of illustration – that God is above and that the flat round earth is below, you would use the word “circle.” They would use the word “circle,” too. It’s clearly understood by all, but they want to get into some mathematical technical meaning and say that it doesn’t mean a flat earth.

When God spoke that he stretched out the heavens as a curtain, again, Edrique said this is metaphorical; that the heavens are not a curtain. Well, of course, flat earth believers KNOW this, but the words God used is “liken to” is what it really means. This is so we can understand what he is talking about. We know that the heavens is not a curtain or a tent (another word that Isaiah uses) but it is understood that there is a covering of some kind over the earth. And this is the message we are to get – that there is some kind of physical object. That’s the point – A PHYSICAL OBJECT – not trillions of miles of endless empty space. This is the meaning that God conveyed and it was understood by early Christians and those that pre-date them in the Old Testament. It is when people like Kent comes along and makes the simple and the plain complex. They say that is only meant to be metaphorical.

22:55 Matthew 24:30

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Flat earthers believe that all the tribes would be able to see God at once and that this would not be possible on a globe earth. Kent said, “That this prophecy can be answered by television and the internet.” I don’t know about that – that God would use man’s technology to make himself known world wide. I believe he will just show his glory and presence without man-made technology.

Kent mentioned something from the Bible with words to the effect, “Your sins shall be separated as far as the east is from the west.” Then, he pulls out his globe and shows that you can always go east on a globe, and he takes his finger and goes around it. “Hey, science teacher, you can go around a flat disk just the same!” Has he forgotten his geometry, which he said he taught for 15 years?!

As a side note to those who might be globe earth believers that are reading this, that when flat earth believers say the earth is flat, or that is like a round disk, we mean that it does have thickness to it but that it’s not a ball. But this is where the globe earth believers will pick at little straws in order to make their belief look right.

27:00 There is some talk about what flat earthers believe that the only people who can go to the Antarctica are those in the military, those doing scientific experiments and those who are on a trip but basically it is off limits under the Antarctica Treaty. Kent then said, “Because they believe it’s some kind of conspiracy.” In other words, he was making fun of flat earth believers. He, of all people should not make fun of conspiracy theorist, as he believes in many of them, himself. In fact, he knows of the evolutionist conspiracy, so why be surprised. He may doubt, he may laugh but let him try to go there himself. Let him tell the military that he will hire a plane to fly across it and he’ll find out the hard way. But of course, he won’t do this, as it would prove that what flat earthers say – that they will not let anyone into the interior.

31:30 Does God have feet? Kent said, “Come on it’s a metaphor.”

32:18 Edrique said, “I only found a verse that says, God has an arm and a hand, but not one that says that God has two feet.”

Can you image that? Do they really think that God has no feet? Is he making fun of God? Or, does he think that God is some form of energy mass like many of the New Age believers?

You’ve got to listen to this part of the video. So, they are turning God’s footstool into a metaphor, too. I notice that when you are talking to Christians who don’t believe in the flat earth, they conveniently use verses that refers to the earth as metaphors.

This is the end of video 2.

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The True Distance From the Sun

The True Distance The Sun is From The Earth

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Zetetic Astronomy

by ‘Parallax’

(Samuel Birley Rowbotham)

1881

IT is now demonstrated that the earth is a plane, and therefore the distance of the sun may be readily and most accurately ascertained by the simplest possible process. The operation is one in plane trigonometry, which admits of no uncertainty and requires no modification or allowance for probable influences. The principle involved in the process may be illustrated by the following diagram, fig. 56.

sun earth distance

FIG 56

Let A be an object, the distance of which is desired, on the opposite side of a river. Place a rod vertically at the point C, and take a piece of strong cardboard, in the shape of a right-angled triangle, as B, C, D. It is evident that placing the triangle to the eye, and looking along the side D, B, the line of sight D, B, H, will pass far to the left of the object A. On removing the triangle more to the right, to the position E, the line E, F, will still pass to the left of A; but on removing it again to the right, until the line of sight from L touches or falls upon the object A, it will be seen that L, A, bears the same relation to A, C, L, as D, B, does to B, C, D: in other words, the two sides of the triangle B, C, and C, D, being equal in length, so the two lines C, A, and C, L, are equal. Hence, if the distance from L to C is measured, it will be in reality the same as the desired distance from C to A. It will be obvious that the same process applied vertically is equally certain in its results. On one occasion, in the year 1856, the author having previously delivered a course of lectures in Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, and this subject becoming very interesting to a number of his auditors, an invitation was given to meet him on the sea-shore; and among other observations and experiments, to measure, by the above process, the altitude of the Nelson’s Monument, which stands on the beach near the sea. A piece of thick cardboard was cut in the form of a right-angled triangle, the length of the two sides being about 8 inches. A fine silken thread, with a pebble attached, constituted a plumb line, fixed with a pin to one side of the triangle, as shown at P, . The purpose of this plumb line was to enable the observer to keep the triangle in a truly vertical position; just as the object of the rod C, in fig. 56 was to enable the base of the triangle to be kept in one and the same line by looking along from E and L towards C. On looking over the triangle held vertically, and one side parallel with the plumb line P, from the position A, the line of sight fell upon the point B; but on walking gradually backwards, the top of the helmet D, on the head of the figure of Britannia, which surmounts the column, was at length visible from the point C. On prolonging the line D, C, to H, by means of a rod, the distance from H to the centre of the Monument at O, was measured, and the altitude O, D, was affirmed to be

sun earth distance

FIG. 57

the same. But of this no proof existed further than that the principle involved in the triangulation compelled it to be so. Subsequently the altitude was obtained from a work published in Yarmouth, and was found to differ only one inch from the altitude ascertained by the simple operation above described. The foregoing remarks and illustrations are, of course, not necessary to the mathematician; but may be useful to the general reader, showing him that plane trigonometry, carried out on the earth’s plane or horizontal surface, permits of operations which are simple and perfect in principle, and in practice fully reliable and satisfactory.

The illustrations given above have reference to a fixed object; but the sun is not fixed; and therefore a modification of the process, but involving the same principle, must be adopted. Instead of the simple triangle and plumb line, represented in fig. 57, an instrument with a graduated arc must be employed, and two observers, one at each end of a north and south base line, must at the same moment observe the under edge of the sun as it passes the meridian; when, from the difference in the angle observed, and the known length of the base line, the actual distance of the sun may be calculated. The following case will fully illustrate this operation, as well as its results and importance:

The distance from London Bridge to the sea-coast at Brighton, in a straight line, is 50 statute miles. On a given day, at 12 o’clock, the altitude of the sun, from near the water at London Bridge, was found to be 61 degrees of an arc; and at the same moment of time the altitude from the sea-coast at Brighton was observed to be 64 degrees of an arc, as shown in fig. 58. The base-line from L to B, 50 measured statute miles; the angle at L, 61 degrees; and the angle at B, 64 degrees. In addition to the method by calculation, the distance of the under edge of the sun may be ascertained from these elements by the method called “construction.” The diagram, fig. 58, is the above case “constructed;” that is, the base-line from L to B represents 50 statute miles; and the line L, S, is drawn at an angle of 61 degrees, and the line B, S, at an angle of 64 degrees. Both lines are produced until they bisect or cross each other at the point S. Then, with a pair of compasses, measure the length of the base-line B, L, and see how many times the same length may be found in the line L, S, or B, S. It will be found to be

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FIG. 58

sixteen times, or sixteen times 50 miles, equal to 800 statute miles. Then measure in the same way the vertical line D, S, and it will be found to be 700 miles. Hence it is demonstrable that the distance of the sun over that part of the earth to which it is vertical is only 700 statute miles. By the same mode it may be ascertained that the distance from London of that part of the earth where the sun was vertical at the time (July 13th, 1870) the above observations were taken, was only 400 statute miles, as shown by dividing the base-line L, D, by the distance B, L. If any allowance is to be made for refraction–which, no doubt, exists where the sun’s rays have to pass through a medium, the atmosphere, which gradually increases in density as it approaches the earth’s surface–it will considerably diminish the above-named distance of the sun; so that it is perfectly safe to affirm that the under edge of the sun is considerably less than 700 statute miles above the earth.

The above method of measuring distances applies equally to the moon and stars; and it is easy to demonstrate, to place it beyond the possibility of error, so long as assumed premises are excluded, that the moon is nearer to the earth than the sun, and that all the visible luminaries in the firmament are contained within a vertical distance of 1000 statute miles. From which it unavoidably follows that the magnitude of the sun, moon, stars, and comets is comparatively small–much smaller than the earth from which they are measured, and to which, therefore, they must of necessity be secondary. and subservient. They cannot, indeed, be anything more than “centres of action,” throwing down light, and chemical products upon the earth.

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Hollywood References to the Flat Earth Revealed in Films

 

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Hidden flat earth images in Hollywood Movies. This is amazing, they people who really control society has hidden the true nature of the earth. As you might know, the Masons, for example, as part of their belief system they have to reveal the truth somehow before they destroy us. You’ll see something like this in films in reference to the bombing in New York on 9-11. These were films made BEFORE September 2001. One such film is in Terminator. You might want to do a YouTube search to check that out. Yes, 9-11 was planned in advanced and known by many people.

In the meantime, this video documentary is great showing that the real leaders know the truth about the flat earth.

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Kent Hovind and the Flat Earth, part 1

Kent Hovind and the Flat Earth, part 1

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Click Here for the video.

Richard 2  Here are the quotes that was said on the video and the approximate location. I did not write verbatim what was said, but close enough. You can listen and hear for yourself the comments made. It would be best to go a few seconds before the times given below so you don’t miss anything.

00:23 He was made aware of the flat earth in the last couple of years. This is not what he said in his video back last year, I think it was in July, when he was exposed to it.

00:56 This is like Romans 10.1, the seal of God but not according to knowledge. This, Kent mentions about 5-6 times in his video and is making this accusation to flat earth believers, when, in fact, it should be made to him – as we’ll see later on. It’s easy to throw these verse and apply to your opposition BUT do they fit the facts? The answer is no – it does not apply to the flat earthers but to the globe theorists.

By the way, do you know that the people who are against God’s laws support the New World Order also refer to themselves as “Globalist?” Interesting.

4:20 This is where life is, this is where his (God’s) attention is, as God is the mother of all living.

This is strange that Kent Hovind uses a “politically correct” word of referring to God as a mother. This is also what the New Age/David Ike type and other such people use.

4:55 Edrique put forth two main arguments:

1 – No good evidence to think that the earth is flat

2 – Is good evidence to think that the earth is a Sphere.

Then he goes into four reasons why he thinks the earth is not flat and puts forth what us flat earthers believe.

In fact, there is overwhelming evidence that the earth IS flat and stationary. But the two of them never fully explain it.

1 The earth always rise to eye level.

2 Surveyors, engineers and architects never required to factor the curvature of the earth into their projects.

3 Airplane pilots have to constantly correct their altitudes.

4 If earth spinning 1000mph.

10:38 talking about surveyors.

Let me dissect Edrique discussion:

1 The earth always rise to eye level.

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Edrique shows on the computer screen a view from an airplane and said that there is an app that you can buy that shows true eye level. What is shown on the screen is that the line on the lens is above the horizon. In other words, according to him, the land is not at eye level as flat earthers claim, thus the earth is a globe.

As you can see in the above picture that you still see the horizon, this, Edrique doesn’t point out. The fact is, from this altitude, which must have been at 35,000 feet, as the clouds are far below, that you do see AT EYE LEVEL the land. It’s not in the middle of your view – according to the app – but it’s still there. Another thing that neither Kent or Edrique pointed out is that the HORIZON IS FLAT. Do they think that the viewers are stupid? I guess so.

This is the important thing – that the horizon is still flat and and should not be at this altitude. Here is another thing to consider. You can be standing on a beach with the sea view at your eye level. You can take a picture of this. However, you can TILT your camera up and the horizon would be lower than mid-frame on the camera. This proves nothing except that the camera was tilted! What you have to look at is how much of the horizon you can see and how flat it is.

IF you could go as high as you want over the flat earth, it will eventually drop down. But that is not because the earth is a globe but because you are so far above that you have to look down – NO MATTER WHAT SHAPE THE OBJECT IS. Then, you’d see the top view of the earth – which would be round but not a globe.

On to Edrique next argument:

2 Surveyors, engineers and architects never required to factor the curvature of the earth into their projects. (Flat earth argument.)

The surveyors and engineers NEVER factor in the curvature. They might be told this in the university training but it is only theory. When in the field they never do this – everything is based on the earth being flat. In fact, this was pointed out many years ago by and an engineer who believed in the flat earth. So, IF Edrique talked to some engineer they lied to him; he was just told theory in class. THEN, there is the real world!

Then he goes into how large projects are build and used a runway for example. Edrique did mention about the 8 inches of drop per mile but he was stumbling over the formula (11:25 into video). This is funny, as this is a very important issue to prove that the earth is not a sphere. What he should have said was, “8 inches times the distance squared.” Edrique fumbled around and made the wording different. So, anyone WITH math skills might miss that, thus, missing the opportunity to see the flat earthers are correct.

Edrique said that when surveyors take measurements, they move their instruments every mile, so they don’t get the drop – the difference is not noticeable. Well, this is a lie, they might have to move their instruments, but IF the earth was a globe, the runway will not be level.

3 Airplane pilots have to constantly correct their altitudes.

Edrique says that gravity is attracting the plane down. He tries to use some BS argument about gravity and pilots not having to do adjusting. We all know about the lies of gravity. There never was an experiment showing that mass attracts other mass.

4 If earth spinning 1000mph.

There will be more talked about this in a future article where Kent and Edrique go into more detail but it really it’s hilarious when you hear them!

17:40 Edrique showed a video (just a still from a video) that he took of buoys in the bay. The first one was when he was on the “beach line,” as he put it, and the buoys were two miles away.

See the picture at the top of this Post.

He went on to say that in the first picture he didn’t see the rust on the bottom of the buoy but in the second video he did.

The second picture he admits he raised the camera 16 inches. He is the picture:

first picture was taken literally at water level

the second picture was taken 16 inches high

the bay also looks like it’s choppy water

The Deception

Now, here is the deception Edrique did, or is it just sloppy work? First, a picture taken literally at ground level, you will see less. Secondly, he then raised the camera 16 inches higher. When you do this, your line of sight if further. He mentions this in another part of the video but ignores it here. Thirdly, he ignores the maths involved IF the earth was a globe. He knows about the 8 inches times the distance squared, as mentioned a few minutes earlier in this video but I guess he hopes that you forget this.

It strange why he took a picture at ground level. Then the other picture at only 16 inches. This sounds like deception. Because the normal way to take a picture is, you stand and bring the camera to your eyes – not taking a picture at ground level. You really need a valid explanation to take a picture, for example, at ground level. Maybe Edrique wanted to get a picture of a sand crab and hope that the crab blocks the view of the buoy and use that to prove the globe earth theory!

By taking the globe earth mathematician’s figures, and calculating the distance that Edrique said the buoys are – which were two miles away – we should NOT be able to see the baseline of the buoys. Yet, what Edrique showed us was PROOF that the earth is flat and not round! Here is how he inadvertently did it:

He showed the waterline of the buoy, which would be impossible to see at 2 miles. The formula is: 2 x 2 = 4 x 8 inches = 32. Thus, we should NOT see the bottom 32 inches of the buoy. Or, put it another way, 2 feet 10 inches you would not see it. Yet WE SAW down to the waterline. I bet there are some people who were undecided about the shape of the earth or did believe in the globe earth and are now believers in a flat earth! Ha, ha, ha.

Thank you Edrique for proving the earth is flat!

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20:00 Edrique took a video of a water tower that was 9 miles away across the bay. It was the Pensacola Water Tower, in Pensacola Bay, Florida. He said the tower is 110 feet tall and the took the picture 8 inches above the water, “I was literally laying in the water,” are his words. In the video he shows a picture on the screen where you can see down to ground level not only the tower but the other buildings, too.

( In case you wonder what the “/” means, it means the divide sign. I’m from the old school and I’m sure there are many readers that are, too.)

Now, let’s do the math to see IF the earth is a globe or not. 9 x 9 = 81 x 8 inches = 648 inches / 12 = 54 feet.

54 FEET! That means that HALF the water tower we should NOT be able to see if the earth was round, yet we do see down to the base. That is only possible because the earth is flat!

This is an example of what globe earth believers do: They ignore some facts, and twist experiments to get a result that is satisfactory to them.Therefore, I think it’s good to analysis what they say. When presented to them, they can realise their mistake. If they can’t see it, it means they are out to deceive you. I do hope that Hovind and Visser realise their mistake and make a public apology (on video).

Visser stated that he was, “literally laying in the water.” Even if that was an exaggeration, we get the idea that he was very close and literally at water level. Then, later in this video segment he goes on to say that there are houses in front of the water tower that are not seen. He said this is because it’s behind the curve, whereas the tower rises above it. Now, this would seem to make sense – BUT the fact that he said the picture was taken at water level explains it all. There are waves and with enough choppy water the water blocks out some of the view, naturally – just enough to mislead, I might add. But the waves are not enough to block the tall buildings in the back.

What do normal people do if they are to take a picture of an object that is far away? They would go to a location, point their camera at the subject and take a picture AT EYE LEVEL! Why didn’t he do this? You can still do the calculation if you take the picture at 5 feet or 6 feet high. All you do is MINUS the 5 feet from your calculations.

There is another factor that results in some of the view being blocked at ground level and that is: mist or pollution. It is heaviest at ground level. As far as seeing something at a great distance, usually what prevents this is not only mist and pollution but also air density. That’s why you can’t see to China from California.

Now, IF Edrique were to take a picture the normal way, but instead of a field scope, which he said he used (in another video), he took a telescope, he would be able to see the homes in the font. So, what is his explanation to that? A telescope cannot see behind a curved earth, so the earth must be flat.

When you are at water level, the waves – no matter what the size – will block our more because of the closeness to the lens. That is why the homes could not be seen. You can take a picture of a mouse and it will block out a car in the background. We know that a mouse is much smaller than a car but the mouse blocks it out because of the Law of Perspective; one object is much closer to the lens than the other.

IF Edrique is not deliberately deceiving the people, he is taking his suggested experiments from someone who is out to deceive. Edrique, not thinking of what he is doing; he is copying it and getting the same results – which can be misconstrued.

As a side note, at 20:54 he said that the distance was 9.5 miles away, when it is 9.05 miles. Now, this is a little mistake and it doesn’t matter in our calculations. However, throughout these videos he makes these mistakes.

Two other things that this guy didn’t mention and that is:

1 Why aren’t the building slanting back? They would have to lean back IF there was curvature but they are not, they are standing straight up – as it would on a flat earth.

2 Has anyone on a boat, going from one end of this island to another reported going over a hill of water? Of course, there is no “hill of water” but that’s what it would have to be IF what Edrique said is true; hill that is 54 feet high, that’s pretty big!

Then Edrique moved the camera up 20 feet on a pylon, as he stated and took another picture of the same water tower and adjoining buildings. This gave him a different angel, which we all agree it would. There, you can see the buildings in the font that the other picture did not capture. But that is not because we are “seeing over the curvature,” but that there were no waves smack up to the lens – that makes a big difference!

If this guy really wanted to get to the truth, he would watch a pleasure boat in the bay or ocean until it goes out of sight. Take a picture or video as it sails to the horizon. Then, with a proper telescope, zoom in and he’ll see the boat again. That’s because the boat simply went out of view of sight – not because it dropped behind a curve. As we all know a telescope cannot see through a mass of water or solid objects. IF Kent or Edrique did this, they will prove to themselves that the earth is not a globe. But you have some people who cannot see and others who WILL NOT see.

24:10 “The only explanation of why these homes can’t be seen is perspective,” Edrique said. Kent added, while Edrique was searching for the right word said, “A cop out, a way to not answer.” Now, what kind of scientist is Kent? Perspective is a REAL thing, or the Law of Perspective. This IS a legediment answer. How can it be a “cop out” when the reality of life is: that things get smaller the further away it is. Also, a person’s sight is limited – some people have better sight than others but everyone has a limit to their eye sight. So, who is doing the “cop out”? They are! In short, how can you get the message to people like them when they ignore the laws of physics and reality itself?

There are several factors that make an object get smaller or disappear. They are:

the person’s sight

the law of perspective

fog, mist, pollution, air density

light at the time

level of land in the foreground

Any of these factors are at play and effects how far we can see. But NONE of them have to do with something behind a curve of the earth.

A minute later Visser said that if it was a flat earth that the object should rise up to eye level, it would just get smaller and smaller. Again, let me teach him something about reality. When an object, house, person or car gets smaller and smaller in the distance, they “blend in” to the ground. Take a look at ice skaters – at a distance it looks like they are skating without feet, but as you get closer you see their feet. If you are even further away it looks like part of their legs are gone. Now, you know that their whole body is there but it BECAUSE of the Law of Perspective. I would not be surprised if this guy was told this or that he watched a flat earth video and it was explained but he would not admit this.

In short with all the things that Edrique questions about the flat earth, he would have nearly all the answers if he saw a couple of flat earth videos that are about 2 hours long. In fact, he would be a flat earth believer; at the very least, he would seriously question the globe earth model. But maybe he would lose his job with Kent if he really told him how he believes. I don’t know.

25:50 Polaris and the Southern Cross. This section Edrique goes into the Northern Star, known as Polaris, that it can only be seen in the northern hemisphere and the Southern Cross that can only be seen in the southern hemisphere. The fact is, that you can see Polaris in the southern hemisphere but he doesnt mention that. But a major thing that he ignores is, the question: “How does a star that is many trillion miles away always be over the North Pole? How can it mirror the speed, gyrations and the gymnastics that we are told earth does? It’s physically impossible. The explanation is, that Polaris is in the dome, along with the other stars. And it’s the dome that is going around and Polaris is the center of this dome – or, the “firmament” as the Bible call is.

Polar Cruises

Edrique said he called Polar Cruises to see if there is a trip from the tip of South America to New Zealand and they said that there was. By them giving the length (in days) of how long the trip would be and the average speed that the ship travels, he calculated that it would be impossible if the earth is flat. Now, I don’t know about this cruise line, but I have heard about these Antarctic trips and that there are shorter trips. IF Polar Cruise Lines said a trip like this exists, they could use this to lead the people astray, then call up later and tell them that the trip is cancelled but offer another one where passengers can go on. For example, the tip from Argentina to the Antarctic and back. So, this could be part of the big cover up. One thing we know for sure is that Edrique did NOT book this trip; he did not go on it, so he really doesn’t know. Therefore, this cannot be offered as proof. But we do have proof for the flat earth, and that is: WATER DOES NOT STAY ON A BALL! This automatically disproves ANYTHING someone would say in support of the globe earth model.

Thus ends the first of three videos by Kent Hovind and arguing against the flat earth.

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Eyes to See, Body That Feels and Brain to Think, part 3

 

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THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF THE WORLD

by Mr. John G. Abizaid

Note: This booklet was originally printed in 1910; this came from the 2rd addition in 1912. The grammar and the punctuational is the same as in the original.

Chapter 3

The Sun, Moon and Stars

In this chapter you will find proofs to show that the sun, moon and stars are always in motion.

I have proved in Chapter 1 and 2 that the earth is flat and stationary.

As long as the earth is flat and stationary it will prove that the sun is in motion over the earth, and traveling in a circle, lighting up all the countries that it shines upon. It cannot light up all the world at once, because the earth is larger than the sun.

People think the sun is large because they see it through a spy-glass. The spy-glass, you know, makes everything seen through it look large, even when it is not large, and you can see the sun round and move, circling above the earth; you will know that without any proof.

Do you believe that the sun is stationary and larger than the earth? For it cannot be larger than the earth. (See illustration of sun rising and sunbeams.)

If the sun is larger than the earth, it would light up all the world at once.

Think this over and you will find that what I say is correct and the proofs are correct also.

If you are in a room with windows towards the rising sun, you will find that the sun always throws its rays down near the floor and not the ceiling.

I am sure that the rays of the sun will never touch the ceiling either morning or evening. It makes no difference if you have your room on a high mountain, the sun will be higher. Its own light proves that for itself.

This will prove that the sun is high, but if you see the sunlight on the ceiling, that will mean that the sun is rising from a low place, or that the earth is round and in motion. But if you cannot see the sunlight on the level ceiling, that will prove that the sun is always high, and the earth flat and stationary.

The sun is always hight and turning in a circle above the earth.

In winter the sun goes far from us, which makes the days short and cold, but in summer when it comes back near us, it makes the days long and warm.

You will know when the sun is near you and when it is far from you, from its light; also you can tell which way it is turning in a circle above the earth from its rising and from its light, and also you know that by observation. And if you examine the sunlight you will find the sun is traveling in a circle.

Some people say that if they start from a certain place and go around the earth, that they would pass under the earth and come back at the same place they started from. They think that the earth is round like an orange; also that they have passed under the earth. The earth cannot be round, for I have given a great many proofs to show that it is flat and level.

They follow the compass, and the compass always points to the middle of the earth which we call north. They travel in a circle on a level place near the equator and they think they are going around the earth in a circle, but they are really traveling on flat and level ways. It cannot be any other way. If they started on a steamer and went south without a compass, they would get lost and find nothing but water, ice and darkness.

Here is another good sign that shows that the sun is very high and smaller than the earth: –

When the sun is rising in the United States of America, it will look as though it is rising from a low place, but the people in Europe will see the sun very high over their heads about noon time, also the people in Asia Minor will see the sun very low in the afternoon.

Do you think that there is a hollow between Asia Minor and the United States because the sun looks low to the people in Asia and to us (U.S.A.), but high to the people in Europe? No! No! There is no hollow, but it is all level, for the great distance from here to the sun shows you that.

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Explanation of the chart

The meaning of A, B, C, D and E on the lines of the sunbeams in the illustration of the position of the sun.

The first line of the sunbeam, A, means when you first see the sun in the morning. It seems to you the sun is rising from a low place. If you examine any shadow or your own shadow, you will see the shadows long when the sun is coming from a great distance; but when the sun comes near you, your shadow will be short. Examine the sunbeams and your own shadow; you will soon know that the sun is round, high and in motion, smaller than the earth and moving in a circle above it.

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B means in the A.M., when the sun has come nearer to you, and is shining more directly over you and you feel it warmer. Your shadow is shorter and is passing by you. You will see that this is correct if you will take time and watch it.

C means midday. At that time the sun is nearest to you. You will see it above your head, and you will feel warmer and your shadow will be shorter than at any other time.

D means in the P.M. You will see that your shadow is growing longer because the sun is moving from over you.

E means that the sun is going to a great distance from you. You feel cooler, and your shadow is growing longer and turning in a circle. If you measure the sunbeams and your shadow before sunset, you will see that the sun is always high and in motion, passing in a circle above the earth from one country to another, and also you will see the moon and stars before sunset and after.

In the illustration of the sun rising and the sunbeams, you will see that the sun is round and smaller than the earth. Also that it is moving in a circle, above every place reached by its light. When the sun leaves a place it changes from day to night, and in the place where it was night it will be day. The illustration shows this.

Pay attention to these proofs: the fist shows that the sun is very high; the second shows that the sun is smaller than the earth, for if it is larger than the earth the people in Europe would see the sun above their heads, wile the people in America would see it above their heads, and both at the same time; the third show that the earth is flat and level.

This is another proof to show you that the sun is going around in circles above the earth: –

When the sun is rising you will never see it coming straight to you, but going in a circle always to the right above your head. You will find that from the shadow of your house, or the sunlight when it shines into your room, etc.

I know that the sun is smaller than the earth and in motion high in a circle above the earth. You will know that by looking at the sunbeams.

Here is a good proof about the sun that everybody can try at home:

Place your lamp on the table and place your hand at the side of the lamp, and you will see the shadow of your hand on the wall, and if you place your hand over the lamp you will see the shadow of your hand on the ceiling, and if you place your hand below the lamp you will see the shadow of your hand on the floor, if you watch the sun beams you will know that the sun is smaller than the earth and always in motion in a circle high above the earth.

And after all, if you want to know which moves, – the earth or the sun, – you must take time to stop a while and watch them both.

Here is another proof to show you that the earth is flat and stationary, and the sun in motion: –

If you can see or feel the earth turning down on one side and up on the other, then you are right, and the earth is in motion and the sun stationary; but if you cannot see or feel this, then the earth is stationary and the sun is in motion; and if the earth is always level on every side of you, it means that the earth is flat.

If you will take time to think you will find out the truth for yourself, – when I have shown you the way. I do not want you to believe it because I say so, but I want to show you how things are and if you will pay attention you will know what is right as well as I do.

If the sun is stationary, we would feel the earth turning, from many different things.

First the houses and posts would lean to one side with the land, and we would see one direction low and the other direction high. If you see the land low on one side and high on the other side, then the sun is stationary, but if it is not, then the sun is in motion. If you cannot see or feel the earth turning, then it is stationary, and the sun is turning. You will know from the water of the ocean that the sun is moving above it, for if the earth is turning upside down, there would be no water in the ocean.

They say that the sun is bigger than the earth. But I found out from the sunbeams that the sun is smaller than the earth, and the people that live in Asia, the people that live in Europe, the people that live in Africa and in America would see the sun above their heads at the same time. There will be noontime all over, it will make no difference. Suppose there were ten people under one umbrella, the same size as one we use now, do you suppose they would all see the umbrella over their heads? No; they cannot see it above their heads because the umbrella is too small to cover all ten people and all would see it above their heads. If there were an umbrella as big as a town it would cover all the people that live in a town, and all the people who live in the town would see it over their heads. And that is the way with the sun. If the sun were bigger than the earth it would shine on the whole earth, and all the people in the whole earth would see it over their heads at the same time. This is a good proof from the sunbeams and the umbrella, and you will find it a good proof that the sun is smaller than the earth and in motion, and the moon and stars are also smaller and in motion. The earth is flat and stationary, as I have proven it before.

The sun we can compare with a parasol – if the parasol was large enough it could cover the whole world – just so the sun. it is not large enough to throw light over the whole world at one time.

The Indian is looking at the proof of the parasol. He compares the sun with the parasol by saying that if the parasol were large enough, “I could see it here over my head, too.” Also the same with the sun – if it were large enough it could cover the earth; and the people, no matter where they were located, cold see it at the same time above their heads.

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They used to say about 500 years ago that the earth was flat and stationary and the sun was in motion. But they had no proof like those I have in my book. This is the reason they changed their minds. But now you must wake up and judge the truth for yourself.

Read everything I say in this book and you will find it just right. There is no guess-work in my book as in the geographies. You do not have to believe what I say in this book, because you have eyes to see with, bodies to feel with and brains to think with.

The geography says that the earth is turning, but no one has ever seen it turn, or felt it, but they can see the earth flat and stationary; the geography also says that the sun is stationary, but no one has ever seen it standing on anything at all.

There is no use believing such foolish talk as we read in the geographies. The geography has no good proofs, but only guesswork, which amounts to nothing at all. There is no sense believing professors, because they made a big mistake by telling the people that the earth is round and in motion and the sun stationary.

We do not blame them for this mistake, because everyone makes mistakes.

This book is called “The Enlightenment of the World,” because it will wake every one up, and correct this mistake.

The sun does not RISE from a low place, as it appears to do.

Examine your own shadow, or any shadow, in the morning, and again in the afternoon, and you will find the sun always is higher than you, just as the sky is above you. The earth and sky do not meet, as they seem to do. It is only the distance that makes it appear so. Anything at a distance from you seems low, anything near seems high. This is a proof that the earth and sky do not meet. If you stand in a field on a foggy day, you will see that near at hand the fog is higher than you are, but a little further off it looks low and touches the ground.

No matter where you stand the fog appears in the same way, and the earth and sky do not seem to meet, and that is just like the fog around you. Examine it and you will find that what I say is correct.

I started from Boston in a steamer going to New York City.

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As I neared the city, I happened to see two bridge ahead of me. Just as I was passing under the first bridge, I found that it was very high, then I looked at the other bridge and I found that it looked very low, almost touching the water.

But when we reached the second bridge I found it as high as the other bridge, so I looked back at the first bridge we passed under and I found that it looked very low, almost touching the water.

Then I knew that both of the bridges were high, but that it was the distance that made them seem low.

It is the same if you go on land. For instance, suppose there is a long, clear road, with telegraph poles the same distance from each other. You look at the one nearest to you, and you will find it high, but the next one looks lower and the next one still lower, and so they seem to be growing shorter and shorter until you cannot see them at all.

But it is not true that the poles are lower, as they look; it is only the distance that makes them seen so just like masts of the ship on the water. This may also apply to the sky.

The sun is the same way.

When the sun is rising and setting it looks as though it were very low. It is not low, but high always, and it is the distance that makes it seem low. When the sun is over our heads it looks very high because it is near us.

The sun, being of a limited capacity, can throw its rays only on a certain portion of the earth at one time. It is similar to an umbrella with a limited capacity to cover a certain number of persons. Of course, you can make an umbrella to cover hundreds of people, if needed, but the sun remains a certain size always, and can neither be made large or small, for it is the work of God, whereas the umbrella is the work of human beings.

The earth has been, and will always be, flat, and there are several proofs and those proofs I claim.

You will find in this chapter that I have given some proofs about the sun.

Pay attention to every word you read in this book. You must not believe anyone who says the earth is round, for you are not crazy, nor a child. Do not believe without a correct proof. Children may believe stories, but now that you are old enough, wake up! You cannot make water nor anything else stay on a round ball. It is the same way with the earth. You cannot make the ocean stay on a round earth without falling off, no matter what people may tell you. There is more water than dry land on the earth, and the water being liquid, cannot be anything else, as I proved in Chapter 1.

Do not let anybody fool you by telling you that the earth is round. As long as there is no proof that the earth is round, you must believe that it is flat and stationary. If you have a good mind why don’t you try to get the best knowledge and follow it? If you are smart, why don’t you wake up and have the best for yourself? If I were you I would not allow anybody to fool me. Don’t be afraid to change your mind when you find that you have been mistaken by following the wrong way. If you wish to know whether the earth is flat or round, read this work carefully, and you will find proofs that the earth is flat and nothing else.

If you wish to buy books and maps of the flat earth, send me word and I can supply them.

In this book we have given you facts that show that the water, the wind, the land, and the sun itself give you their own proofs. Use your own body to feel with, your own eyes and brains to see and understand these proofs.

If anyone should wish to have a further explanation of my ideas, I will answer this questions, provided I am paid for my trouble.

JOHN G. ABIZAID

Boston, Mass., U.S.A.

THE END

Dear Friends, –

I should like to say this to you.

If you should like to read my Book, kindly read it two or three times carefully, and think over every sentence and proofs, and you will find that I am right.

Don’t agree without your being positive.

I don’t want you to believe the earth is flat just because I am saying so in my book; but I want you to think over the proofs and try them and find out the truth for yourself.

Now, I would like to ask for some testimony on the subject. I wish the names and addresses of those who agree with me so that I could help in stopping them teaching the small children that the earth is round, and such foolish things as the sun being stationary, and etc.

I like the truth. I also wish the people to like the truth, and for that reason I wrote my book to explain the flat earth subject and so forth. I have proofs and I have some testimonials from educated people, and I desire some more testimonials or some good poetry on the subject from any one who agrees with me. I should be glad to have their names to print in the third edition of my book; also if anyone, having other good proofs on the flat earth subject, et cetera, will send same to me, I will print it and their name also. If I die my children will build upon the same foundation.

That’s the reason I am interested to get your opinion.

Yours truly,

JOHN G. ABIZAID

No. 121 Tyler St., Boston, Mass.

TESTIMONIALS

Cardinal’s Residence, 452 Madison St., New York, April 8, 1912

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Dear Sir:

His Eminence, Cardinal Farley, desires me to acknowledge the receipt of your brochure, “The Enlightenment of the World” (2nd edition), and to say in reply that he congratulates you on the evidence of thought, painstaking and research shown in the work.

Yours truly,

JAMES LEWIS, Secretary.

64 Wavehee Rd., Liverpool, England,

Januay 26, 1911.

Mr. John Abizaid,

121 Tyler St., Boston, Mass., U.S.A.

Dear Sir:

I have received our wonderful book from a friend in Boston and I read it with great interest. You have excellent foundations. It is indeed the “The Enlightenment of the World” and I hope you have every success in your excellent work.

You may use this testimonial to the best of your advantage.

I am, dear sir,

Yours sincerely,

PROF. H. B. NEWTON,

(Master of Science.)

AMERICAN PRESS WRITERS’ ASSOCIATION.

A. F. Hill, General Secretary and Treasurer.

13 Isabella St., Boston, Mass.,

June 24, 1910.

John G. Abizaid.

Greeting:

Your book “The Enlightenment of the World,” is before me. Using the flat of the United States of America is a good plan.

Proper words in proper places may lead us right. Water of the ocean is straight at its surface in long distances. Water flows from high to lower grades.

May you go ahead and win great success in helping to overthrow one of the great delusions made by men of education.

The sun is less size than the earth; were it not so the rays of the sun would shine vertical upon all parts of the earth on the side of the earth toward the sun.

During a number of years I have known of the globe-earth delusion being a failure. Prove it over and over again to increase the great army in favor of the flat earth facts.

Hones doubters need education in Flat Earthism until they are wise and know that they know. Prove it in the most easy ways, to reach as many as you can of the thinking and knowing wise people.

Respectfully,

AURIN F. HILL,

(Architect.)

John G. Abizaid September 24, 1910.

Dear Sir: Again I have read your important book, “The Enlightenment of the Word,” by John G. Abizaid.

I am glad of your good work to remove the foolish globe-earth delusion from the minds of the people. Yours truly, AURIN F. HILL.

Boston, Mass.

Dear Sir: I have received your wonderful letter and I thank you very much for your explanation. It interested me very much. You deserve to have more success for your useful book. Accept my love and best wishes.

Respectfully yours,

N.A. MOKROZEL

publisher Al-Hoda, “The Guidance.”

Mr. N.A. Mokarzel of 81 West Street, New York City, owns and issues “Al-Hoda,” or “The Guidance,” the best Arabic newspaper in this country at this time

he is a man of good education.

After he had read the “The Enlightenment of the Word,” he was impressed with the truths in presented that he published a long article in his paper about it, stating many of its arguments.

His article was published June 25, 1910.

Salem, Oregon, March 23, 1911

FEAR GOD…..A.G. Gy to Him

KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THE FAITH OF JESUS

copyright June, 1909, by Lewis Hain

full of the everlasting GOSPEL

New Jerusalem, U.S.A.

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Dear Sir:

I have read your book last night, “The Enlightenment of the Word,” the proofs give in it are true and they are the very same as mine have been for years. If you please so you may forward one of your World’s Maps and one of the Routine Maps of the SUN.

If they will prove true too, then we will agree together to reform the world. Respectfully yours,

LEWIS HAHN.

Plymouth, Sept. 13, 1910.

My dear brother:

I read your pamphlet with very great interest, and while I cannot accept its conclusions, yet I very much admire its independence of thought and its all-around general ability.

Thank you for sending it to me, I am,

Very sincerely yours,

Rev. John P. Bland, Cambridge, Mass. J.P. BLAND.

Denison House, 93 Tyler St., Boston,

April 5, 1911

My Dear Mr. Abizaid:

We have been much interested in the writing and publication of your book and want to congratulate you on the interest it has aroused in the public. It presents a theory of the universe that receive little attention now. With good wishes, Yours truly, HELENA S. DUDLEY.

Academy for Science, New York, N.Y.

March 21st, 1911.

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

121 Tyler St., Boston Mass.

Dear Sir:

Having heard so much about your book, I decided to procure a copy and found it full of interesting reading.

The subject is a good one, and with the aid of your book, it makes it wonderfully plain.

It is true that everything above the earth moves – the clouds, the sun, etc., and that the earth is motionless.

I am distributing your copy among my friends, and am hoping for good results. Wishing you every success, I remain,

Yours truly, WILLIAM J. HUTCHINSON, M.S.

A.F.C.,” New York City, N.Y.

Daniel J. Faour & Bros., 63 Washington St.,

New York, N.Y., June 16, 1910.

John G. Abizaid,

121 Tyler St., Boston Mass.

Dear Sir:

We received your book, “The Enlightenment of the World.” We did not get a chance to read it, but from the title it indicates that it is a wonderful book.

You ought to have thankfulness upon your application.

Yours sincerely,

DANIEL J. FAOUT & BROS.

SECOND LETTER.

November 3, 1910.

Dear Sir:

The book of your autobiography we have read, and from our point we found it built on an excellent foundation.

Yours sincerely,

DANIEL J. FAOUR & BROS.

Boston, Jan 2, 1912

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Dear Sir:

It gave me great pleasure to read your valuable book upon “The Enlightenment of the World.” It is indeed very interesting. Hoping that you will meet tremendous success, I remain,

Yours truly,

PHILIP K. NAOUFAL, Secretary.

60 Hudson St.

Secretary “Hudson Club” of Boston.

LEWIS PENNINI, STEAMSHIP AGENT.

Notary Public and Justice of the Peace.

27 Broadway Extension, Boston, Mass.

August 6, 1910

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Boston, Mass.

Dear Sir:

I have read with the utmost attention your “The Enlightenment of the World” and find it is a book of great importance, and which deserves the most attention of the great men of scientific work.

It shows plainly what you state and I firmly believe the whole of it to be true and interesting.

I admire greatly your “The Enlightenment of the World,” and I shall speak to al my friends to get a copy of the same.

Respectfully yours, LEWIS PENNINI

July 29, 1911.

Dear Sir:

I think your efforts to prove that the earth is flat are commendable.

W.W. RICH, Printer.

434 Main St., Charlestown, Mass.

Dear Sir:

That the earth is flat and stationary was believed for centuries and has not as yet been absolutely proved to be otherwise. I do not believe the earth is round and the fallacious theory should be exploited.

Yours truly,

HABEEB CURY THRUBUY.

Tonnurine, Mt. Lebanon, Syria.

Boston, Mass., July 14, 1910

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Dear Sir:

Have read your book on position of the earth and see nothing but simple facts. The Bible is the oldest and best book in the world. It is as explicit on the question of the world as on any other subject: Gen. 1:9 God said, let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear, and it was so. Shall we want any other proof than that? Here is is; 14th Verse. And God said, let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night: And let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, Gen. 1:14,15. the 15th Verse you will please read, for it is important. Read the 16th and 17th and 18th. Do you need any more proof? Here it is; when Moses led the children of Israel out of Egypt two thousand five hundred and thirteen years from creation at Mount Sinai Jesus gave the Ten Commandments. The second Commandment places it just where Gen. 1:9 when He spake and it was done. You may go there you will on this broad earth and you will find it as the word says. We must not forget that it is a destroyed earth for it is not what God made in the fist place. It was mostly land – now it is two-thirds water to one-third land. I will refer you to the 24th Psalm, 1st and 2d Verses, also Ps. 104:1-22, Ps. 136:6, Ps. 102:25,26, Isaiah 42:5. there are over a hundred passages that prove that this earth is not flying in the air. Let us believe in the old book and be governed by it. May God bless you in your work in my prayer.

Yours very truly,

J.B. THOMPSON.

Dr. J.B. Thompson, Burroughs Pl., Boston.

Boston, Mass., U.S.A., May 29, 1911

******

I received a letter from Prof. Davis of the Harvard University, Cambridge, Mass., dated April 27, 1911, sayng that to print my book would cost a considerable sum of money; also that the earth turns round as some think, or stands still, as you think; still it is the same hard-working place.

I think Prof. Davis wants me to stop printing my book, by saying it will cost me a sum of money. And he told what the other people think, but he did not say what he thinks.

Also he says the earth is the same hard-working place. He did no say which way is right. I think he knows I am right on the flat earth subject, but he doesn’t want to agree with me because it will be hard from him; he does not want to say anything on the subject for the reason that it would destroy his teaching.

*****

HARVARD UNIVERSITY

Geological Museum, Cambridge, Mass., U.S.A.,

Seismographic Station

J.B. Woodworth, in charge

February 23, 1911

Mr. John G. Abizaid,

Dear Sir:

The press of many studies has prevented my acknowledging before now the receipt of your booklet and letter.

I am afraid I am too old now to learn that the earth is not a sphere-like body.

To be frank I do not see that you have proved that the world is not just as I regard it – and there we are; you don’t see it as I see it.

It does not matter much, does it? Whether it is round or flat since we see so little of it.

I hope you prosper in your new place of business.

Very truly yours, J.B. WOODWORTH

Boston, Mass., April 3, 1911

Professor Woodworth,

Harvard University,

Dear Sir:

Answering yours of February 22nd, 1911, would like to say that at this time I was very so I could not answer you until the present time.

As you stated in your letter that you are too old to learn, I am old and I learned how to read and write the English language. As a fact, the older a person gets the more he knows, and I think that you ought to know the earth is ROUND or FLAT.

You also said that I don’t see the earth as you see it, but I as sure that I do, but I don’t see or feel that this earth is round or in motion and going around the SUN.

You did not see or feel this earth of ours going around the SUN. You also said that my booklet did not have any proofs in it. There are a great many proofs in it to make you change your mind, but you did not read it carefully.

Now you want to read it carefully and pay attention to every proof that it contains and you will find that I am right.

As to the difference it makes whether the earth is round or flat, why it makes a lot of difference between the true and the false.

Take my advice and read my book carefully and you will find the truth and you will let other people know the truth also.

Kindly don’t forget and write me and let me know whether you have changed your mind or not, and oblige,

Respectfully yours,

JOHN G. ABIZAID

121 Tyler St., Boston, Mass.

 

 

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Eyes to See, Body That Feels and Brain to Think, part 2

no 1,000mph wind

No 1,000mph wind up here!

THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF THE WORLD

by Mr. John G. Abizaid

Note: This booklet was originally printed in 1910; this came from the 2rd addition in 1912. The grammar and the punctuational is the same as in the original.

Chapter 2

The Land

The land is solid and all in one piece, joined together under the ocean all over the earth.

The earth cannot be round and in motion as they claim in the geographies, but flat and stationary, because the water is liquid and level and it proves that the land is flat and not moving.

Another proof which shows that the earth is standing still and not moving is to be found in the wind, which they call the atmosphere.

If the earth is turning around daily it will give wind from one direction only.

If you see a train running you will find out that it is giving wind in one direction. But when it stops the wind stops with it.

Nobody ever felt the wind blowing at the same rate daily, but they will feel the wind blowing at times very hard and and at other times very gently, and often from different directions, and sometimes there is very little wind. This is good proof to show the earth is stationary. If the earth was in motion in one direction, it would make the wind pressure in the same direction always.

You will find my proof to show you that the earth is not moving:

If, when you go up in a balloon or airship, starting from a certain place and going as high as you can and when you come down find that the place gone from under you, then you may believe that the earth has moved; but if you find yourself in the same place, or not so very far away from your starting point, then it is plain that the earth is stationary and not moving at all, and this is what really happens.

If, moreover, the earth is turning around and the birds or airships are flying the same way, they will find themselves over the same place they were before. If they fly in the opposite direction of the turning of the earth, they will find themselves flying very fast and always over different places. If you think this over you will find these proofs correct.

After all, the earth cannot be round, because most of it is water, and water cannot be anything but level, as I have given proofs in Chapter 1.

Take a pan of water and turn it upside down, and I am sure the water will fall out. Also, if the earth turns around, the water of the ocean would destroy a great many cities, towns and countries. But the earth cannot be turning or in motion. If it is turning, we should know it immediately, because we have eyes to see, bodies to feel and brains to think with.

Suppose you were riding on a train, car or boat, you would know that you were on something that is shaking. When the train or cars goes up hill or down hill, you can easily tell, even with your eyes closed whether it is going up or down.

It is the same way with the earth. If the earth is turning around or is in motion, we would know it from many different things, as I said before.

They say that there is gravity in the earth which holds everything on it when it turns around. They give these proofs to the people and children in school, and most of them believe such foolish things as that. Their proofs do not amount to anything, but it is all guess-work, because nobody ever felt it or saw it.

I was surprised to know that some people believe in things that were never seen or felt. But the things they can see and feel they pay no attention to. They say if you drop anything it will fall down to the ground, they only think of the law of gravitation takes it down.

Oh, I am sorry for them! They ought to know better than that. They ought to know that heavy things, and all things that have no power like dead bodies, will go down themselves. But some things have power, like the bird, or light things like smoke, and so forth; they will go up, or any way they like. If there was a law of gravity it would bring them down also. Most of the people know up from down, and ought not to believe this foolish thing. I feel sorry that the children are taught about gravity, and that the earth is round and travelling around the sun, and also that the sun is larger than the earth.

There is no gravity at all, for if there was a person could not move a step, and if a bird was on the ground it could not fly in the air again, because the gravity would hold it back. If there is gravity, it is not everywhere, and cannot hold everything, such as gas, balloons, airships, etc.

Here is another proof to show that the earth is flat and stationary: –

If the earth is round and in motion, as they claim, we should know, for when it turns around, at times we should find our heads and feet and the world above us, as though a person were standing on a ceiling and his head downwards and his feet up.

If we were held fast to the earth by gravity, or tied by ropes, we should feel it, and know which way the earth is turning with us.

What we attribute to gravity is really the Law of Density. Ed.

But there is no such thing as gravity, because no one ever felt it. You must not think that you are an intelligent being because you know a great many things. I am sure that no person knows everything in the world. You ought not to believe everything that people say – that the earth is round and in motion, and that the sun is stationary and larger than the earth, etc., until you have examined the facts and found out the truth and follow it.

I think I have given you enough proofs to change your minds about the earth’s being round and in motion.

You will find in Chapter 3 proofs about the sun going around in a circle above the earth.

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Eyes to See, Body That Feels and Brain to Think, part 1

water on a ball

THE ENLIGHTENMENT OF THE WORLD

by Mr. John G. Abizaid

Note: This booklet was originally printed in 1910; this came from the 2rd addition in 1912.The grammar and the punctuational is the same as in the original.

Chapter 1

About the Water

You have eyes to see, body that feels and brain to think.

Christians believe the Bible. In this Book of Holy Writ are proofs given by the prophets that the world is flat and stationary, and the sun, moon and stars are always in motion.

There are many, however, who do not accept the truths of the Bible, and for this reason I give other proofs.

There are some things that need witnesses, but other truths are their own witnesses; they bear the proof in themselves.

You know that there is more water on the earth than dry land. Here is the first proof:

The water proves that the earth is flat, level and stationary. Water is liquid. It runs always down and seeks its level, and never runs up unless by power. And the water of the ocean is every way pretty near joined together on the earth, and they call it liquid. It will not stay on a round earth. Take a glass of water and pour it on a round ball and if the water stays on, then the earth must be round, but if the water falls off the earth must be flat.

This is the proof: Take a pan and fill it with water and see if it is higher in the center than on the sides. If this is true, then the water of the ocean might be round, but if the water in the pan is flat and level, then the water of the ocean must also be flat and level.

The water of the ocean is level and can be nothing else, because it is liquid, which proves that the land is flat and not round. The land is not exactly flat and level, for there are mountains and valleys. But it makes no difference, for if the mountains were in the valleys it would leave the land flat and level and higher than the water. I have been thinking of the question for a long time.

At last I have found out for myself and the water and the sunbeams, the sun’s rising, the sunlight, etc., that the earth cannot be round and in motion, as books and teaches have taught. The teachers offer proofs to show that the earth is round but the proofs they offer amount to nothing. When the children go to school, the teacher tells them the world is round, and, of course, they believe it, and they do not ask how it is round. They are young and they know very little. When they grown up they still believe the earth is round and in motion, and so in turn they teach this to others.

The water is flat, which proves that the earth is flat and stationary.

From its fruit you will know what kind of a tree it is.

You can tell by looking at a building whether it has a good foundation or not.

The sun cannot throw the earth’s shadow on the moon, because sometimes they are very near to each other. This you can tell in the evening and in the morning by seeing the moon and the sun at the same time.

You ought not to believe everything the professors say, because they do not know everything.

The man who said that the earth was proved round by the sight of a row of ships upon the ocean made a mistake, and what he says is not true.

Just because he measured and looked at the subject in his own way, he has not proved it but guessed at it. From this guess he thought the land and water around; but the water will not stay round, as he thinks.

They claim in the geographies that when the last ship is out of sight, it is a proof that the water is round, but it is a proof that the water is flat. You will see if you look and measure in a good many different ways, as is done in this book.

A person standing on the shore sees a steamer full size when it is near him, but when it goes out father it keeps growing smaller until it is out of sight. They think this is good proof that the water of the ocean is round, but it is not a good proof, because water is liquid and will not stay round. The distance view shows you that. It is the same as with a book; you cannot read it five yards away from your face, but near your face you can read it plainly.

This is the Law of Perspective. Ed.

law of perspective  A person standing on the seashore will see a large steamer, but as it goes out father it grows smaller, and the mast of the steamer will be shorter, too; but if a person stood on the opposite shore he would see the steamer large when near him as it goes out father it grows smaller, which proof that the water is flat and level and not round: the far distance will show you that.

There is no chance for anybody to say that the earth is round, for as long as the water is flat and level and stationary, and the sun in motion.

I have read books on geography, and I find they claim that the earth is round and in motion.

I have been thinking over this matter, and have read considerable in regard to the subject.

I do not blame children or teachers, but the first man who said the earth is round. He told the people the earth was round, but did not know for sure; he only guessed at it. We do not have to believe such guess-work as long as we have eyes to see and bodies to feel and brains to think.

This say the earth is round, both land and water, and that they are always moving around the sun. but if you ask them how the water keeps in its bed while the earth is turning, they will tell you to take a pail of water and swing it fast and see, for the water will not come out until the pail is slowed down.

Who has seen the earth turn around in the way that a person turns a pail? No one. And as long as no one has ever seen the earth turn, you need not believe that it does so.

Who is turning the earth? It is turning on its axis and what kind of an axis is it? No one knows. Is it iron, steel, wood or in? You do not want to believe such statements that the earth is standing on an axis, for no one has seen it. It is all guess-work and nothing seen by human beings. Some people say that the world is round and that God is turning the world, but very few believe it. If they do they should pay attention to his prophecies, and ought to believe them as they say about the movement of the sun and standing of the earth, and so forth. If you wish to know what the earth stands on, I can say, that, and I believe what I say, the earth rests on water just like a ship floats on the water. This is a good proof without doubt. It know the earth is large, and being so tremendously large, must necessarily be of tremendous weight. And as a heavy body, it has no power to move in the sky around the sun anywhere. Also it cannot lay or turn on nothing as they think. Try something and let us see if you can make anything stand or turn daily on nothing itself. I am sure you cannot do that. Also they have no right proof to it as they believe. The swing of the pail is not a correct proof either, because the man swings the pail. But the pail cannot swing itself because it has no power. Also the earth cannot move on nothing because it has no power to move.

Try and put some water on the outside of a pail, and I am sure you will see the water of the ocean is the same thing, for if the earth is round as they say, there would be no water on the earth, as all of it would fall off.

If the earth is round and revolving we should feel it; also the wind would be coming from one direction only, and not from the north, south, east and west.

I have read a story in the geography about the earth being round, as they claim. It says when the ship is near the shore a person on the shore will see the mast, high and big, but as the ship goes further out, he will see it low and smaller as if it were going down hill. If a man were standing on the steamer deck, however, he would see the land low, while he would be high.

If there were any high mountains near the shore, and you were on a steamer some distance from the coast, when you looked toward the land, the mountains would seem to you to be low and small, but they are not. It is the distance that makes them so.

The water is flat and level always and cannot be anything else because it is liquid. You know, of course, what liquid is, and what the word means.

Here is another proof to show that the water of the ocean is flat and level: –

Suppose five steamers are in a circle, each just within eyesight of the others, with another steamer in the middle. If you are in the middle steamer looking out at the others, they will look as if they were very low and in a hollow, while you seem to be the highest. But if you were to leave your own steamer and go in turn to all of the others in the circle it would then look to you as if the steamer you were in first were very low.

Whichever steamer you are on seems to you at the time to be the highest. It is not true that one steamer is higher than the other, or that the water of the ocean is round. It is flat, and nearly always straight. It is the distance that makes the other seem lower.

Here is still another proof: It these steamers are in a straight line, on the ocean, as far apart as eye can reach, and you are in the middle one looking at the others on either side, then they will look as if they were in a hollow, while you seem to be the highest; but it is true that to the people on the other steamers it looks as if your ship were low in the water and their own the highest.

I think I have given enough proofs to change your minds about the earth being flat, not round.

The water proves that the land is stationary, flat and level.

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