The So-called Lunar Eclipse of the Moon

Posted on August 5, 2017 by revealed4you

The So-called Lunar Eclipse of the Moon

From an 1895 flat earth pamphlet

The so-called shadow of the Earth on the Moon is “proof” by our globalist friends of the movement of planets.

The so-called shadow is not always round, it was once noticed to be “a dark isosceles triangular shape;” but a straight object would give a curved shadow upon a sphere as you may prove by holding a straight-edge before an apple by gas light, but it has never been shewn that the Earth could possibly cast a shadow on the Moon. If the Earth cut off the Sun’s light from the Moon, the Moon ought to go quite dark during the eclipse, but it does not, its light shines through the supposed shadow.

A semi-opaque but dark Moon came between us and the luminous Moon and so caused the lunar eclipse. Astronomers admit that there are dark bodies in the Sky. It may be the Moon is “ eclipsed ” by getting into a mass of “ thick darkness ” which revolves around and over the Earth in an opposite direction to the Sun, this thick dry foggy atmosphere obscures the Moon’s rays but does not obliterate them. It cannot be admitted that the “ Earth’s Shadow” causes an eclipse, because Sun and Moon have both been seen above the horizon during an Eclipse of the Moon, and we know from other sources that these Bodies revolve over a Plane Earth. B. Blount.

The Creator of the Moon declared—and thereby confirmed as absolute truth, the inspired account as given by the Holy Spirit in Gen. i., 16—that the Moon’s light is an inherent light, hence Moonlight (Matt, xxiv., 29). This is confirmed by every practical investigation. Is there a scientist living who would try to “eclipse” the light of a policeman’s bulls-eye lantern by putting a globe between it and another? Besides; and this should never be lost sight of, the so-called “ shadow” always commences to eclipse the Moon from the East side, therefore overtaking, and passing on in the same direction as the Moon is travelling! But, if the so-called shadow proof—is only a shadow— of globularity was an absolute proof; and not a mere “ hypothesis to explain phenomenon,” then the shadow would meet the Moon and not overtake it as it does. Again, the speed of the earth in its orbit compared with the speed of the Moon in its orbit, utterly, from a globular stand point, proves the falseness of the so-called proof and for ever closes the mouths of all opponents! They claim that the earth is travelling in an orbit round the sun at the “rate of 68,305 miles an hour,’’ while the Moon is travelling in an orbit round the earth, and consequently must of necessity move faster than the earth or about 180,000 miles an hour. It is therefore utterly impossible that the shadow travelling at the rate of 68,305 miles an hour can overtake the moon travelling at 180,000 miles an hour. What an infinite difference is shewn to exist between absolute fact, and conjectural and illogical theory.

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Polar Exploration

Posted on August 3, 2017 by revealed4you

Polar Exploration

Geographers In Congress

Dr. G. Neumayer (Hamburg), dealt with the ‘ Scientific Exploration o f the Antarctic Regions.’ H e said inter alia; ‘Any conclusion which may be drawn from records of Meteorological and hydrographical data, at present in existence, must of necessity be incomplete and fallacious! I t is of high importance, to furnish accurate geodetic data to determine the figure of our globe! A gravity survey would be of the highest importance. The study of the phenomena of ice, the origin and nature of icebergs…without which it will be difficult to arrive at definite results respecting the various epochs of the earth’s existence. Connected therewith is the nature of ice-caps, which probably cover the region surrounding the South Pole! The question of the causes of the variability of geographical latitude { the undulations of the earth’s axis), will probably be greatly elucidated. He hoped that the grand example set fifty years ago on the field of South Polar Exploration, might be renewed in our days!”

Sir Joseph Hooker, who was introduced by the Chairman, as the only survivor of Sir James Ross’ Expedition, said : “He believed he was right in saying that the key to the future knowledge of terrestrial magnetism, lay very much in the ascertainment of the exact position of the South Magnetic Pole. We knew nothing of the meteorology of the whole of that enormous area, and could only at the best, make guesses, and assumptions!”

We conclude from the foregoing, that it is the modern scientists, and not the ancients, who know nothing of the shape of the Earth.

In reference to the great, un-penetrated, southern circumferential ice-barrier, and its unexplored beyond; these “learned men,” impose upon the world, their weak hypotheses, and vain theories; their confessed ignorance, guesses and assumptions; and declare there is a magnetic spot or centre, which they term a ‘South Pole’ in order to uphold their whirling Globe theory. But the ‘Geodetic data’ for mysticism is passing away, and the unprejudiced thinking world now ask for witnessing facts, sound knowledge, exact science, and truth!

Clement, the first co-Pastor or co-Bishop of Rome in his first epistle to the Corinthian Eulesia (included in one o f the ancient collections of the Canon of Scripture) writes:

“The unfathomable and unsearchable floods o f the deep, are kept by His command; and the conflux (hollow or depth) of the vast sea, being brought together by His order into its several collections, passes not the bounds that H e has set it, but as he appointed (commanded), so it does remain. For He said : ‘Hitherto shalt thou come, and thy floods shall be broken within thee. The ocean, impassible to mankind, and the worlds that are beyond it. are governed by the same commands by their great Master.” Chap. ix., 9-12. Archbishop Wake’s translation.

Until Astronomers, Geographers, and so-called scientists, give us facts for fiction, truth for ignorance, and also discover “The South Pole,” and its “Ice-Cap,” all believers in the Deity’s graciously revealed Word, must reject and resist the infidels who practically deny and make void the Holy Inspired Writings! Clement’s epistle was read in the primitive Ecclesias, an evidence of its authority. Photius, the Patriarch of Constantinople, in the 9th century, and others, have objected to its genuineness, because Clement speaks of “Worlds beyond the Seas!” The Apostle-taught Clement is a far higher authority than the man-taught Photius! Scripture and Reason, condemn the learned lumber, of false philosophers, with their guesses, silly senile suppositions and assumptions!

Thesemen insist contrary to natural laws, and also contrary to logic; that The Earth is a whirling Globe, going round with other motions, at a terrific rate, carrying on its surface moveable objects, enveloped in rare air ! Simply upon theory and without a single proof!

Beyond the circumferential southern ice-bound oceans Clement declares that the are “Worlds!”

The Bible also emphatically declares:

“The pillars of the earth are Jehovah’s. He hath set the world upon them.” 1 Sam. 2:8

“Of old Thou hast laid the foundations of the earth.” Ps. 102:25

“Ye enduring foundations of the earth.”  Micah 6:2

“Thou hast established the earth and it abideth.” Ps. 69:20

“The world also is established that it cannot moved.” Ps. 106:10 and 103:1

“Jehovah founded the earth on its bases, that it should not be moved forever, and beyond!” Ps. 106:5

“For He hath founded it upon the seas and established it upon the floods.”  Ps. 24:2

What are, so-called, Christian Hierarchies, with their multitudes of Priests and Parsons doing, that they should allow these infidel Globites to dupe and mislead the people? Is it because they are mere hirelings!? Either the Bible lies or its opponents! Which? How can there possibly be a “ South Pole,” and an “Ice-Cap,” to the unknown Antarctica.

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Not All Great Astronomer Agree

Posted on August 2, 2017 by revealed4you

Not All Great Astronomer Agree

“Even great astronomers do not always escape erroneous conclusion, and sometimes they have to recant absolute mistakes of reasoning and calculation.”

“For several thousand years people supposed that the earth was a great platform surrounded by the sea.

“They certainly knew nothing of the real shape of the earth.

“David who lived a good while before Homer, did not speak of the ’round world.’ There is no such word as ’round’ in the original Hebrew, nor in our Bible version of the Psalms.

“The common Latin phrase for the earth, ‘orbis terrarum,’ and in the Latin Vulgate Bible, translated ‘The round world,’ does not mean a globe, but a round disc, or wheel.”

Sir Edmund Becket, BT., “Astronomy,” 7th Ed., preface p. 5, pp. 1-2.

According to the above quotations, astronomers are sometimes erroneous in their calculations, reasoning, and conclusions. Yet, with unproved and un-provable assumptions, they have the audacity to contradict the God-Inspired writers of Holy Write; and practically deny the cosmical teaching of Moses, and the declarations contained in the Psalms, and in the Prophets; concerning the Sun, the Moon, the stars and the Earth. Thus making the God-sent Messiah (in whom many of them profess to believe), a liar! Disregarding the fact, that this same Messiah, the Prince of Prophets, and the Coming King of all the Earth, endorsed “Moses, the Psalms and the Prophets.” The declaration that for thousands of years, men knew nothing of the real shape of the Earth, is not supported by an atom of proof. What d modern man know of its shape? They have never been to, and consequently have never seen, beyond the circumferential ice-barriers, that surround the Antarctic, and yet they say, “The Earth is a whirling globe.”

 

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More on Navigating a Flat Earth

Posted on August 2, 2017 by revealed4you

More on Navigating a Flat Earth

by Thomas George Ferguson

The question is often asked: How can you account for ships sailing due East or West and returning to the place from which they started, or in other words, how is it possible to circumnavigate anything but a sphere?

The latter part of the question is absurd, although it is often asked by men of no mean intelligence in other matters.

The Isle of Wight has been circumnavigate some hundreds of times, but a man would be considered a likely candidate for a lunatic asylum who would say, therefore, the Isle of Wight is a globe.

It is self-evident, then, that a body need not be a sphere to be circumnavigated.

Again, on the face of this so-called proof of the suppose globularity of the world there is deception, part of the truth having been omitted. It stands thus in many books: “A mariner sailing due East or West returns to the place of “departure which could not be done on a flat surface;” but that he had attempted and failed to circumnavigate his supposed globe by sailing due North or South has been entirely omitted. Now, with regard to the former part of the questions we will ask the reader to consider for a moment the following diagram:

 

N represents the North Centre (popularly called the “North Pole”, and the outer circle S S S S, the southern circumference (erroneously called the “South Pole.”)

It will be seen that as the compass needle constantly points N and S the points, E and W will form a circle, and, following the circle to the right of the diagram would be travelling in an easterly direction, and following the circle to the left, a westerly course.

Again, it must be remembered that East and West are but relative positions and not fixed points, even according to globular teaching, for instance: we should not be correct in saying that America was West unless it was stated, or understood, that it was West of Greenwich, a line which passes through Greenwich (on maps only of course) being taken in this case as a standard, and all places, the relative positions of which are on the right or left of this line; are spoken of as East or West of Greenwich.

If a map of the Earth as a plane be obtained it will readily be seen that the circumnavigation of the world is easier according to the plane truth than it is according to the globular theory.

Why this supposed proof of the supposed globular shape of the world should be inserted in geography books is hard to understand, unless it is that the globular theory is so wanting in truth that it is glad to catch at even a shadow, and even this will be found to be against it, if examined by the light of common sense and practical fact.

 

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Flat Earth Believers Then and Now, Part 2

Posted on July 29, 2017 by revealed4you

Flat Earth Believers Then and Now, Part 2

“Who is this,” asks God, “who darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?” (Job 38:2)

So far from endorsing Job’s, ignorance, God at great length exposes and reproves it; till Job humbly confesses he had uttered what he understood not, things to wonderful for him which he knew not. (Job 42:3) God’s action then, instead of being confirmatory of men’s mistakes, seems at this most important juncture, when men were as yet without a Bible, a supernatural condescension to human ignorance to lift men out of it.

“Very true,” say those we esteem, our Christian philosophers, “where it was, as here, a religious question, God did so act; but never where the ignorance was merely scientific.” A most reckless assertion, and completely falsified by this very record. How does God deal with Job’s moral misapprehensions of his Maker? By directing attention to, and very minutely particularising, the visible works of His hand. He corrects his too yard scholar by means of a series of object lessons; a principle later Scriptures describe Him always afterwards to have acted upon. Say that right views in respect to the universe are from first to last put foremost by God as indispensable to right views of Himself. So far from these having nothing to do with our faith, God expressly establishes them at the very outset as the surest rock for faith to stand on. And obviously they are; for whenever men depart from God’s principle, they invariably end by departing from Him.

Themselves inventing a universe, as the Bible’s God will not suit with it, their only alternative is to further invent a substitute that will. Instead of its personal Creator, they fill His place with idle speculations as to a not impossible First Cause. (Their “impossible First Cause” is the Sun!) “ The centre of the movements of all the celestial bodies of the system…is to us THE SOURCE of light, heat, and The Heavens.

(Modern Astronomical Teaching is here shown to be a specious form of Materialism! Ed. E.R.)

Not alone does God claim in the Book of Job to be the sole Creator of all visible things; but He propounds doctrines with respect to several which should make our Christian philosophers a little more doubtful than they are wont to be of the correctness of their opposing conclusions. Amongst the statements God Himself is credited with, are the following: “I laid the foundations of the earth; ” the earth’s foundations are “ fastened;” and the earth, like other buildings, has “a corner stone.” (Job 38:4-6)

“Oh, but that is all allegorical, and of a piece with the whole book, which is nothing but a beautiful allegory!” That, or a modification of it, is I know the modern suggestion; but it doesn’t go far enough, God, Ezekiel, James, and Paul— these should be allegorical too!

Ezekiel declares, concerning the land of Israel, “ Though these three men”— not these three myths— but, “ Through these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.” (Ezek. 14:14,20.)

The apostle James would have done small service by instancing the “suffering affliction” of an imaginary individual: naming therefore the patience of Job he spoke of one historically and indisputably real. The apostle Paul too, confirms the authority of the Book of Job, by quoting from it as a part of sacred Scripture, prefacing his extract with the usual, “It is written.” (Job v. 13; 1 Cor. 3:19)

To pronounce Job and the Book of Job metaphorical is, therefore, to fly in the face of authenticated history. Again, there is a further reason for knowing that the statements read from the Book of Job are not metaphorical. Those precise statements are elsewhere repeated in terms as literal as any the Bible contains ; and not merely once or twice, but many, many times : for instance; “Who art thou,’’ asks God of His chosen nation, by His prophet Isaiah; “Who art thou that for forgettest the Lord thy Maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth?” (Isaiah 51:12, 13)

So you see that the earth’s foundations, twenty-two times officially mentioned by God and His prophets, are not given as eastern fancy, but as literal sober, undeniable fact. We are told that the amount of Eastern imagery in the Bible altogether beyond easy comprehension is perfectly incalculable; and so it is; the amount is so exceedingly small! Eastern imagery! Why what is the earth, according to modern science? A monstrous balloon without a car, rushing through space and twirling as it goes.

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Navigation Proves The World a Plane

Posted on July 26, 2017 by revealed4you

Navigation Proves The World a Plane

By “Yachtsman”

When at school, I was taught that the most conclusive proof that the Earth is a Globe, was found in the fact that the upper masts and sails of ships at sea are seen first, and as the vessels approach the observer, the lower masts and sails become visible, and finally the hull.

I am in possession of one of the most powerful glasses ever invented, or made by man. The iron barque, “ La Querida,” of Liverpool, left Capetown for Australia some time ago. I watched her from an elevation of 200 feet. She was in ballast, and thus presented a hull high out of water. As she sailed away, the entire vessel, masts, sails and hull gradually became less, until the hull was scarcely visible. I applied the “Emperor” binocular glass to my eyes, and could see the hull as plain as the sails and masts. The ship went on until I could no longer see the hull, and only the masts and sails indistinctly. Again I applied the glass, and again saw the hull, masts and sails all very small, but all distinctly visible, although about lo miles distant. Hence, I came to the conclusion that either my binocular glass has the power of piercing a segment of water miles in thickness, or that the earth is a plane and therefore not a globe.

On a fine afternoon I took up my usual position (200 feet above sea level) to watch the schooner “Lilia,” of Capetown, sail away about due North for Saldanha Bay…

 

… At my usual position again one very fine and clear morning, I saw a black spot far away on the horizon. As it drew nearer I could indistinctly see a funnel and two masts, but nothing whatever of the ship’s body. Now, thought I, here’s a fine chance to test the “Emperor” and the scientists globe teaching at one and the sg,me time, and suiting the action to the thought, I applied the glass, when lo! and behold! What did I see? I saw a funnel, two masts, and the body of the steamer, and also the white wave being dashed from her bow by her speed through the water!!!

Now if any Observatory man can be found to attempt to prove the Earth a Globe, I am ready to meet him.

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Flat Earth Believers Then and Now, Part 1

Posted on July 25, 2017 by revealed4you

Flat Earth Believers Then and Now, Part 1

It’s a strange that that there are many flat earthers today do not believe in the God of the Bible. They believe in a God but somehow separate him from Scripture. Also, there are some flat earth believers today who did not believe in God at all but after believing in the flat earth, had to accept that there is a God. But for some strange reason – known only to them – that is is not the God of the Bible. Yet, it was only 125 years ago that all flat earthers believed in Yahweh, God first, then believed in the flat earth. From there, they saw the beautiful harmony of true science matching up with the Bible. Flat earth believers in the 1890s, for example, did not change their God into something that fits their political views but still saw Him as “the Great I Am.” While today, some, and I say some, flat eathers try to create god into a person who that is “politically correct.” Yes, I think that they are still controlled by being politically correct and not truthful. They did, however, learned more truth by realising that the earth is, indeed, flat and stationary but that is all; they still have a long way to go. I could go on and on but I’ll just continue this article with a sample of an old flat earth article written in the 1890s of flat earth believers’ who trust in Holy Scripture. There are many, many such article I could quote that it would compile a book. But you, as a regular reader of Christian Flat Earth Ministry, know quite well that the generation of flat earth believers of long ago remained believers in the the Bible as the literal Word of God.

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Think of the witnesses who from Genesis to Revelation have attested to the reality of miracles, supernatural dreams and visions: think of the mental and moral calibre of the whole; think as they spoke chiefly of what they experienced, saw, as God’s instruments. I say, if these are not the witnesses of truth, of the deliberate falsehoods these exemplary men condescended without possibility of collusion to utter. Think of Joseph, if he had only accidentally guessed right in interpreting the dreams of Pharaoh, his chief butler and chief baker, having the audacity speak as God’s commissioned messenger: think of Daniel having habitually committed the same enormity; think of the Bible dreamers:, always dreaming according to the interpretation of their dreams: think of the Bible interpreters being men greatly beloved of God; never reproved for their solutions of enigmas in His name, and never accidentally guessing wrong? And in the region of miracle, think of the walls of Jericho having only fallen flat by a strange coincidence “when the priests blew with the trumpets and the people shouted with a great shout;” think of Moses only pretending; to plague Egypt: of Joshua having only pretended to converse with the Captain of the Lord’s host: of Gideon having only juggled with that fleece of wool: of Daniel having somehow circumvented the lions, and then given the thing a miraculous colour that he might gain ascendency over the Median king : think of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego making themselves fire-proof by a scientific process of which the particulars are not now recoverable : think of God having only been pretended by Solomon as the Giver o f his wisdom and the Answerer of his prayer for it; and think of Christ having only pretended to feed “five thousand men, besides women and children” by the miraculous increase of “five loaves and two fishes;” having only pretended to raise the dead, to heal the sick, to cast out devils, and Himself to die and rise again! Explain away the miraculous if we can make ourselves ridiculous; by trying, but as to doing it— we may as well try to scale heaven.

Subtract the miraculous and leave the historic— impossible! Tear away the first and nearly the whole of the last comes with it. And why should we? Wherefore is not the miraculous part of the Bible as true history as any other part?

If we credit all we now hear, the splendid men of old, whose histories in brief the Bible gives, were so many weak-minded enthusiasts, bent on manufacturing archives out of mutual hallucinations; poor creatures the whole or them; and so insufferably oriental as to be quite unable, even in the commonest matters, either to express themselves comprehensibly, or to distinguish between fact and fancy. It is we who are the wise; they were but superstitious ignoramuses. Well, let our wise men produce a subtler and, in spite of its metaphors, clearer bit of argumentation than that between Job and his fellow-ignoramuses, they can.

The world has its sages and its sages. Those whose works are obsolete are its wise sages: those who produced the only standard work in existence, the incomparable Bible, are its otherwise sages; that is to say, its foolish ones. Wanted an illustration of virtue— where it is oftenest sought? Among the worthies of the Bible?

Nine times out of ten among the greatly more esteemed worthies of heathendom! What perversity, for merely classical ends, to prefer the men, maxims, and morals of a dead heathendom before the inimitable exemplars of a living Bible! The infatuation of scholars for things heathenish— this seems the cause of the Bible’s witness against heathen science revived being ignorantly under-valued.

Elihu, apparently knowing as perfectly well what he was talking about as the sanest man amongst us, declared supernatural dreams to have been one means of Divine communication with men; and he added, that what actual knowledge men possessed was imparted by the God who made and gave them life. It is “ God my Maker,” he says, “who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven” (Job xxxv. 11). And Job, as if to illustrate this, comes out with a sample of the teaching received— “I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand in the latter day upon the earth; and though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God ” (Job xix. 25. 26). Where learnt he that? Of men? And was it the initial fancy from which men, many of whom never saw one another, artfully conspired together, the living with the dead, to concoct that fairy tale— Christ and the Resurrection! Men are amazingly clever; but to attribute all this to them would make them out far more clever than hitherto they have shown themselves to be.

Supernatural dreams one of the means by which God imparted knowledge— visible angels seem to have been another; and in God’s grand answer to Job “out of the whirlwind” we hive a third.

Scientific gentlemen may sneer at the whirlwind communications of God with men; but the recorded fact that God spoke to Job is not to be displaced, except by proof that He did not; or shaken, except by substantiated inferences on the contrary. Disbelief by itself is not the mind-work of men, but the passion-work of fools: by itself, disbelief is not worth attention; yet only disbelief— by itself— has assailed this Bible statement.

That amongst the worshippers of God in Job’s day there were very faulty notions— -especially of God’s providences, and man’s ability to maintain his own righteousness before his Maker— is sufficiently evident: for Job himself had imbibed them. Nor was it strange it should be so; for although God himself was the teacher, His people were but scholars: education, in no case complete, was simply in progress.

Now Modern Science’s position is, that God has proceeded upon the principle of adapting Himself to man’s errors ; and here is a test case proving He has done no such thing.

To be Continued

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Fake News, Fake Nature of the Earth, Fake Food

Posted on July 23, 2017 by revealed4you

Fake News, Fake Nature of the Earth, Fake Food

With all the fake news that is out there, we also know there are fake products on the market from shoes to clothing to perfume. So, is it any wonder that there is fake food out there. It’s one thing fake name-brand coffee but but another when fillers are used in the coffee.

With the lying government, it makes it easy for companies to lie – as it’s part of the food regulations. Food laws are designed for companies to easily mislead people. For example, if you see the words “Cheese Product” on a package, you probably think that it’s cheese. The truth is, that it’s not or it may have less than 50% cheese. In the video you’ll see that American cheese is not cheese.

Here are a couple of video clips on the fake food that is out there. After seeing this, ask yourself if you eat any of this. You might want to change your mind if you do. One rule of thumb is, if it’s cheap it’s probably fake. You can add this fake to the fake globe earth that we were all taught in school.

 

More fake food – more shocking. Mostly about fake food in China. BUT, you know that a lot of food from China is imported into America.

Top 10 fake foods

fake food that you eat every day

 

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Science’s Quarrel With The Bible, Part 3

Posted on July 22, 2017 by revealed4you

Science’s Quarrel With The Bible, Part 3

Extracts from Lectures by Walter Rowton, Esq.

The most of us, in our innocence, have all along been believing in the beautiful lady who calls herself science, as “ the handmaid of religion;” so she at one time delighted in representing herself, and we ever took her at her word. Never dreaming of any unchristian motives underlying her fair professions, we hitherto have listened to her counsels and been gradually guided by them. When she explained that the Bible Astronomy, Geology, Geography, and so forth, were not true, nor intended to be true, though the bulk of us were not so educated as to be able to follow her through “ the experimental evidence,” yet, considering she spoke in the interest of that religion whose service she professed, we implicitly believed her, and, dupes as we were, gave them up. Having a wonderful opinion of her cleverness, and unbounded confidence in her rectitude, it never once entered our minds she had a disguise to abandon. But how— now she has succeeded as she thinks in committing us to theories we must follow to where she herself stands; now, “abandoning all disguise,” she exclaims, like Elihu of old, “I am full of matter’’ (Job xxxii. I8); not Elihu’s, however, but a very inferior matter. Elihu reads forward — his matter is God : she backward— her God is matter.

So far as Christians are concerned. Professor Tyndall, whether he intended it or not, has re-opened the whole scientific question : and should it be held a kind of Quixotism to tilt in these days against such stone-wall conclusions as those of Galileo and Newton, pray as Dr. Tyndall been guilty of a less Quixotism by his denial, in this the nineteenth century of Christianity, of the Bible’s God ?

The fashionable course, I am sure, is to doubt Scripture and believe science: to her our perpetual cry is for more; so far from questioning the truth of the incredible tales she tells; so far from treating her as she treats the Bible, we are agape for greater marvels; and we swallow them whole. But is this reasonable? Why should Scripture, without proper knowledge of it, be doubted? and why should science, with no knowledge of it, be believed. The doubting spirit is by no means a bad one; yet when our spirit doubts according to its prejudices—strains at a gnat and bolts camels by the dozen— then, its doubting, like its similar beliefs, are both foolish and mischievous. Instead of believing Scripture and doubting science, or believing science and doubting Scripture, for the sake of fairness, let us begin de novo, by doubting both, reserving belief till doubt is satisfied.

“But how is it possible,’’ you may ask, to doubt science’s proved facts? We would gladly accept the Bible cosmogony if we could, but how can we? The exact sciences shut us up to the conclusions that the Bible astronomy is wrong, that its geology is wrong, that the earth, so far from being the centre of the universe, is a mere speck in it; that the earth is not flat but round, that it is not move-less but moving.

“How is it possible to escape these impregnable facts?”

Our duty will be to inquire if these stated facts are impregnable. But, meantime, this also we must consider; if we continue one by one to desert the Bible positions, as we have been doing, if we associate with the holders of these views whenever they elect to take another step, as they say, in “advance,” the alarming likelihood is, that beginning with the received astronomy, we shall get gradually but surely on to Tyndallism, Spencerism, and Darwinism, and end by not apprehending a creating and controlling First Cause. Consent with the philosophers that the Bible speaks unreliably from its presumably Divine side upon scientific subjects, and what is in the way of its similarly speaking upon all others? Consent with the wisdom of this world, against which the Bible itself warns us, and your God may eventually become, like his whose words have been quoted, a may-be, rather than a must-be; a dim human possibility, rather than a divinely revealed fact.

“ And wherefore not, if that be really the truth?” Quite so; but is it? The philosophers having raised that question, and given their doubts in the form of beliefs ; now it devolves upon the other side to give facts and reasons for the contrary belief that is in them.

In the complicated quarrel before us, we indeed are deeply concerned, and had need be very careful lest direct personal interest in the issue should bias our judgment of its merits. We have looked at the no longer disguised leading of what is called Science, as she herself having invited, attention to them, it was fitting we should : let us now give to them their proper place and influence. All they should cause is this : they should stimulate to extra carefulness in the search we are making into the rights and wrongs of this contention. Those of us who are Christians must not remember we are so to the extent of allowing our Christianity to blind our judgment; neither must those who agree with science be men of already made-up minds.

If we should find that science, so called, has an unanswerable case, let us say so, and honestly cast in our lot with hers. But, on the other hand, if we should be of opinion that the Bible positions are good, let us back to our allegiance, and, if necessary, defend them like men.

Into the examination of these positions we cannot go now : the task is a very arduous one, and must be reserved for my next lecture.

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Science’s Quarrel With The Bible, Part 2

Posted on July 21, 2017 by revealed4you

Science’s Quarrel With The Bible, Part 2

 

Extracts from Lectures by Walter Rowton, Esq.

“But it is not Science’s business,” I am reminded, “ to do more than delay our arrival at mother earth; at the grave’s mouth her duties cease. To provide for the Afterwards is Faith’s work.” Yes; and to enable Faith to do it well—she invalidates her Bible! “Oh, but she means not to invalidate the Bible’s faith: she only invalidates its science.” Nay, but these are inseparable: the Bible science is the Bible faith’s platform: they stand or fall together. Does that require proof? it shall have proof, overwhelming proof in my next lecture.

Meantime, let me show you that modern science really does her utmost to invalidate the Bible Faith.

With reference to modern astronomy, The Daily Telegraph. July 6th, 1875, says: “Nothing has so changed the beliefs of society as the discoveries of astronomy; ” and after naming approvingly our larger conceptions and widened theologies, it adds the amazing revelation that “All the ancient theologies were constructed upon the Ptolemxan notion that the earth was the centre of the universe, and that the sun, moon, and stars were hung in the void to lighten it, and for signs and seasons.” With Claudius Ptolemy therefore, born Anno Domini 70, originated this, the Genesis Cosmogony! Did not I rightly say, that in the cases of scientific men theological knowledge was not equal to technical? But what is the drift of this anachronism 1 Evidently to impute to one of ourselves the scientific teaching of the Scriptures, and so to destroy veneration for it.

The modern astronomy, beginning as a system with Galileo, together with “the moral sense in man,” according to the Telegraph, “really furnish the foundations of a natural religion, to the vast and imperative demands of which the official teachers of dogma must advance. All theories of Revelation and Divine Government,” it continues, “have, since the discoveries more especially of Newton, had more or less to adapt themselves to the ideas of modern astronomy,” by which, so to speak, “the breath of theology has been taken away.” So you see the Bible is not considered an actual Revelation, but only a theory of Revelation, with a mortal breath, “which has been taken away.” In effect dead, if its sentence is to be revoked, it must worship science. Its teaching is so inferior to “natural religion” based upon modern astronomy and moral intuitions, that instead of natural religion advancing to Revelation, it is our theory of Revelation which mast advance to natural religion.

“Not,” adds the Telegraph, “until the professors of theology’ address themselves in earnest to the vastly larger demands which the minds of men now make for doctrines commensurate with scientific teaching, will religion and morality come up abreast of astronomical truth.” So far from the Bible being the one truth-test to explode all error, now it is modern astronomy which is the truth; and the only doctrines commensurate” therewith, are those of a “natural religion,” compounded of itself and “the moral sense in man.” As for the Bible, its doctrines not being commensurate with scientific teaching; its religion not being natural; its respect for the moral sense in man non-existent; it never could have been the truth; obviously not, or it would be still. For many ages it has been a very good substitute; but now it is bygone, worn-out; it has been completely superseded by modern science.

Of course, if our Bible is this superseded “theory of Revelation,” man’s guaranteed eternal life is not worth the page it is printed on: for how can a God whose promises were put into His mouth by the theorists who invented Him either undertake or fulfil an undertaking?

“ ‘Thus saith the Lord!’ Out upon ye, Moses, David, Isaiah, and the rest! Your God is your delusion! He never spoke a word, either to you or any one else!” That is the legitimate outcome through the Bible “a theory of Revelation.” And if that is not an invalidation of our Faith by modern science, what else to call it, I know not. But modern science having neither proof that our Revelation is more than a theory, nor colourable pretext for supposing so, why does she obtrude that statement? Why? because she has started in opposition: and like some shabby tradesman, she puffs her own article at her neighbour’s expense. “ If you want true science, the genuine article, deal with me. Next door not to be depended on.

The concern is a sham— its proprietor a myth; and its pretended science, not science at all! Guilty of this meanness, does modern science deserve support? Our Bible a theory! its revealed God a non-entity! I call upon science to prove the scurrilous libel, or withdraw it.

Modern science has long had its advocates even in our pulpits; but Christian ministers aware of its latest pretensions, and who hold with it notwithstanding, have a difficult task before them. Still Sunday by Sunday, drawing for their analogies upon modern science, they must now publicly reconcile what they themselves denounce as poisonous grapes with that producing stock they hitherto have maintained a true vine.

I wonder if Dr. Tyndall foresaw that the legitimate recoil from such teaching as he gave at Belfast would assuredly be the re-consideration by genuine Christendom of the whole of its relations with what is called science, with a view to their abrupt and final termination? He might have done so; he might easily have surmised that sooner or later his denial of the Christian’s God would certainly be followed by their denial of that science in whose name he was selected to speak ; and not in part, but altogether: for science, consistent with herself— her past must be of a piece with her present.

To be continued…

 

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