Rotating Earth part 2

“A sphere where people on the other side live with their feet above their heads, where rain, snow and hail fall upwards, where trees and crops grow upside-down and the sky is lower than the ground? The ancient wonder of the hanging gardens of Babylon dwindle into nothing in comparison to the fields, seas, towns and mountains that pagan philosophers believe to be hanging from the earth without support!” –Lacantius, “On the False Wisdom of the Philosophers”

“I confess that I cannot imagine how any human being, in his proper senses, can believe that the Sun is stationary when, with his own eyes, he sees it revolving around the heavens, nor how he can believe that the Earth, on which he stands, is whirling with the speed of lightning around the Sun, when he feels slightest motion.” –David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma”

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The Rotating Earth part 1

Amazing, no clouds anywhere on earth! Yet, this is suppose to be a real image.

Amazing, no clouds anywhere on earth! Yet, this is suppose to be a real image.

  “Whilst we sit drinking our cup of tea or coffee the world is supposedly rotating at 1,039 mph at the equator, whizzing around the Sun at 66,500 mph, hurtling towards Lyra at 20,000 mph, revolving around the centre of the ‘Milky Way’ at 500,000 mph and merrily moving at God knows what velocity as a consequence of the ‘Big Bong.’ And not even a hint of a ripple on the surface of our tea, yet tap the table lightly with your finger and … !” – Neville T. Jones

“I remember being taught when a boy, that the Earth was a great ball, revolving at a very rapid rate around the Sun, and, when I expressed to my teacher my fears that the waters of the oceans would tumble off, I was told that they were prevented from doing so by Newton‟s great law of Gravitation, which kept everything in its proper place. I presume that my countenance must have shown some signs of incredulity, for my teacher immediately added – I can show you a direct proof of this; a man can whirl around his head a pail filled with water without its being spilt, and so, in like manner, can the oceans be carried round the Sun without losing a drop. As this illustration was evidently intended to settle the matter, I then said no more upon the subject. Had such been proposed to me afterwards as a man, I would have answered somewhat as follows – Sir, I beg to say that the illustration you have given of a man whirling a pail of water round his head, and the oceans revolving round the Sun, does not in any degree confirm your argument, because the water in the two cases is placed under entirely different circumstances, but, to be of any value, the conditions in each case must be the same, which here they are not. The pail is a hollow vessel which holds the water inside it, whereas, according to your teaching, the Earth is a ball, with a continuous curvature outside, which, in agreement with the laws of nature, could not retain any water.” – David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma: The Earth Not a Planet Proved From Scripture, Reason, and Fact”

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Exposing Those Who “Tell” the Truth

Disinformation Agents in Truth Movement

One of the biggest things we have to be aware of are those who pose themselves as “truth-seekers,” but indeed are misleading you. The way to do this is, that you DO present the truth and once you get a big following, you twist the truth and also tell out-right lies. Whom am I speaking about? People like Alex Jones, David Icke, Michael Tsraion, and Jordan Maxwell. By the way, the last three are big at claiming Aliens are here and are controlling us. They also don’t meant that 13th Tribe who is really controlling things. They also attack overtly and subtly Jesus and the Bible.

The fact that some of these people push Aliens and UFOs, and that they “channel” this information, should warn you. As a person who knows about the flat earth, you know that there are no other planets out there, much less other planets with aliens.

Here are two links about these people (there are others out there, but here are two to get you started). You can search for others on YouTube to find more. Example, search “David Icke Debunked” or use other similar words.

Disinformation Agents video 1

Disinformation Agents video 2

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Eric Dubay Talks about David Icke and Alex Jones

There are many “gurus” who call themselves “truth seekers” that you have to watch out for. How they get a large following is that they do tell the truth in some areas but the most critical is where they usually lie. Such people are: Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, David Icke and Alex Jones.

David Icke, for example, will tell the truth when it comes to things like chemtrails (bio-engineering) and GMO food. But he also talks about and has a book on the reptilians on the hollow moon who are controlling us with ray beam. Being flat earthers, we know that you can’t land on the moon and that there are no such things as aliens from other planets. So, where does he get his information from? He makes it up – where else!

My making claims of reptilian “shape shifting” Icke makes truth seekers and conspiracy researchers look ridiculous – and this is the precise aim of the government and those who work for them.

Listen to Eric Dubay – a big flat earther – tell you his story in this short video clip. (You do get some truth from a non-Christian.)

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Following Startling Discrepancies

THE TRUE FACTS AND THE MODERN THEORIES

balloon-edge-space  MODERN ASTRONOMY and its crafty or, most deluded sycophants teach that “ the sun is stationary and the centre of the planetary or celestial bodies, and that it is over One Million miles larger than the earth ! ”

Whereas, it is not one thousandth part of its size,—is constantly moving in spiral orbits, round and over the face of the motionless earth increasing the latitude of those orbits about ten or eleven miles every day from June to December, and decreasing them in the same proportion from December to June.

The astronomers now teach that the Sun’s distance from the Earth is from 92 to 93 Million miles; whereas, it is proved to be under 2,400 miles, and the stars and planets even less than that.

So far from the Earth being a planet and “very much inferior in size to all the other planets but Mars,” it is no part at all of the celestial system; but is wholly distinct and far superior in size and character to all the planets put together, which exhibit very little variety in size among themselves, and no parallax whatever, when viewed under any possible conditions!

The astronomers again assert the Earth to be a revolving and rotating Globe, with an axial speed of over one thousand miles an hour, and an orbital speed of over one thousand miles per minute! whereas, it is an absolutely motionless plane, surrounded by a barrier of impassable icebergs, extending into unknown regions, where “day and night come to an end,” or, in other words, cease to be distinguished, and will only be removed when “there shall be no more sea;” and a “ new firmament and a new earth ” shall replace this sin-stained and misused world.

The astronomers teach an atmospheric pressure of fifteen pounds on the square inch; whereas, it does not amount to half as many grains. Gravitation (central), is the wildest fiction ever invented.

All Attraction,—Solar, lunar, central, and magnetic, is purely conjectural and physically impossible.

The astronomers further declare that this globe has no material support. but is sustained and controlled in its terrific orbits by solar attraction only, at a distance of nearly one hundred million miles; although Sir Isaac Newton himself declares the idea was “grossly preposterous and

discreditable to any rational mind;” meaning, of course, that the “centripetal and centrifugal forces” were hypothetical conditions only, and like all the other data on which the Copernican theory was founded, were purely geometrical devices, which no one in their sober senses ever thought could be illustrated by an appeal to facts. But such was the ignorance or bigotry of his professional friends, that they would not allow even Sir Isaac Newton himself to publish his repeated disclaimers of being anything more than a mathematical inventor or formulator of a system which was in no degree dependent on the truth of his premises. The rank absurdity and downright impossibility of any one, of its most elementary conditions, and the fact that no man of honor or scientific reputation would venture openly to defend it, ought to secure the instant rejection of it by every lover of truth in the world. The whole thing lies in a nutshell. All that is insisted upon is, that results or conclusions drawn from conjectural theories of philosophy, however plausible and apparently simple they may be, are wholly worthless and unworthy of any claim to rank as true science, till they have been proved correct by actual experimental demonstration, and can be thus confirmed and illustrated as often as their truth is challenged or denied. Even if a theory be true in the abstract, yet, if incapable of practical demonstration, it is not science, merely to suppose or assert it to be true. Newton himself was too sound a philosopher to attempt to illustrate the truth of the globular theory; he repeatedly discouraged all discussion, and, if left to himself, would never have attached his name-or sanction to such a bungling absurdity.

This is the ground on which the ZETETICS take their stand, and all the professors in the kingdom will strive in vain to dislodge them; and, what is more, they are too cowardly to attempt it. The above is so startling an exposure that the public press is ashamed to announce it; although the globular theory has been shown to be a Pagan superstition, unscriptural, irrational, unscientific, and physically impossible!

The true cosmogony of the Universe should be the primary subject, and one which ought to take precedence of every other on which the mind of a child can possibly be engaged. Ignorance of its true nature is a gross scandal on all connected with any phase of education, either religious or secular; and the imposition of a fraud which the intelligent child soon learns to detect, exerts a positive injury on the mind all through life. At the present moment there is not a teacher in the kingdom who would venture _to prove himself familiar with the most elementary principles of

natural science; and yet the writer is abused for declaring the world is full of knaves or dunces. Even savages never boast of being wiser than they are, or teach their children what they know to be untrue.

Never before was there such a fuss made about education. Do we really know or only think we know? Or is it learn, learn, learn – leave off no wiser than before? If bricks and mortar could make brain’s—fine buildings could ensure great thoughts—if learned professors nearly all that they profess, Thomas Carlyle would have belied his countrymen when he said we were a nation of “mostly fools.”

What is our standard of true knowledge? an imperfect standard is as misleading as defective weights If we deal with false analogies, we are only comparing true metal with an ingenious counterfeit! What are we aiming at these remarks? We mean to say and are able to prove that at this moment, we are living in an age of shams and false pretences, and that we are totally unfamiliar with the most elementary conditions of some of the most important subjects that can possibly occupy the attention of a professedly intelligent and commercial nation;—that even our Clergy and Theological professors do not yet understand the teaching of the Mosaic records;—that our Schoolmasters, on some subjects, do not understand oi know more than their pupils; that even our nautical charts and tables would discredit a nation of savages; and that our geography and astronomy are just where they were left by our university authorities of two hundred years ago; and that the most eminent of our educational professors would not now venture to defend what our poor children are compelled to carry with them through life.

What shall we say to those “Scientific” Journalists and Reviewers who persistently discourage any desire for discussion or ventilation of this important subject? Is it to hide their own ignorance or to display a mock contempt for any suggestion that runs counter to popular prejudice or opinion; or do they go so far as to imply that they cannot find among their numerous literary connexion, one individual writer who has intelligence enough to maintain his ground in a discussion with an honest

opponent ? It is a gross fraud on the credulity of the public as well as on the helplessness of childhood to enforce the acceptance of certain teaching which they are too ignorant to explain or too cowardly to defend.

If modem astronomical science could be shown to be demonstrably true, how’ glorious would be the victory, and how, dire our confusion ! But till they cease their insolent taunts and courteously show us our error and the futility of our opposition, we shall certainly not cease to regard them as vanquished foes, who lack the moral courage to acknowledge their defeat. And we can but trust that when Prof. This or Prof. That ventures to pose as a Scientist or as an oracle on scientific subjects, he will learn to exhibit a little more modesty and confess that for once in his life, he had to bow to the superior influence of common sense, and, above all, to the omnipotent authority of the inspired records.

As it is. Science is irredeemably prejudiced in the eyes of all honest men and can never again assume those insolent airs which have so frequently disfigured its encounters with the less dogmatic searchers after truth.

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The following Extract was taken from the “Birmingham Weekly Mercury” of February 15th, 1890, and must have been first published very soon after the experiment on the Bedford Canal, when that Professor fraudulently appropriated the sum of £1,000 on the grossly false plea that he had proved a curvature on six miles of the surface water of that Canal.

An Engineer of Thirty Years

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“ An Engineer of Thirty Years Standing” writes to a magazine in 1874 quoting the following sentences as the result of his experience in the construction of railways, more especially :—“ I am thoroughly acquainted both with the theory and practice of civil engineering. However bigoted some of our professors may be in the theory of surveying according to the prescribed rules, yet it is well known amongst us that such theoretical measurements are incapable of any practical illustration.

All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as true levels or flats. There are, of course, partial inclines or gradients here and there, but they are always accurately defined, and must be carefully traversed.

But anything approaching to ‘ eight inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance,’ could not be worked by any engine that was ever yet constructed. Taking one station with another all over England and Scotland, it may be positively stated that all the platforms are on the same relative level. The distance between the eastern and western coast of England may be set down as three hundred miles. If the prescribed curvature was indeed, as represented, the central stations say at Rugby or Warwick, ought to be close upon three miles higher than a cord drawn from the two extremities. If such was the case, there is not a driver or stoker within the kingdom that would be found to take charge of the train.

As long as they know the pretended curve to be mere theory, they do not trouble themselves about what may be stated in the tables of the geographers. But we can only laugh at those of your readers and others who seriously give us credit for such venturesome exploits, as running trains round spherical surfaces. Horizontal curves on levels are dangerous enough; vertical ones would be a thousand times worse, and, with our rolling stock constructed as at present, physically impossible.

There are several other reasons why such locomotion on iron rails would be as impracticable as carrying the trains through the air.”—Surveyor.

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How Something Can Be Made Real By Denying They Are Real

How Aliens Are Made Real by NASA

The Illuminati, Jews, or whomever you believe are in control have a clever way of covering up the flat earth truth. Here is a short video of William Cooper (deceased Sept. 2001) of how he used to believe in aliens and why he doesn’t now.

William Cooper was once in naval intelligence and it was then that he had witnessed a UFO, or so he thought. Since then he had spoken at UFO conferences about his experience. It wasn’t until years later that he discovered the truth – that UFO don’t exist. (Let me clarify this, anything can be a UFO until it’s identified. Planes can be a UFO until they are identified as a plane. So, in this context, when I use the term “UFO” we are talking about space ships from other planets.)

Now, this may sound as a contradiction but just read a bit more…

I think that NASA and others had a dilemma years ago, and they came up with a plan on how to fool the people. Their real aim is to get the public to believe that there are billions of planets out there; that there are some that might contain intelligent life, and that we can travel to other planets. They thought (my theory, anyhow) that most people will not believe in aliens, so the best way to get most of them TO believe in aliens is to deny they exist.

Now, this may seem counter-intuitive but it’ll work if the plans are carried out right. What you do is:

1 – Outright deny they exist

2 – Allow some slipping of videos in the public domain that shows something flying by, etc. Allow other “slip-ups” such as the face on Mars. But still deny aliens exist.

3 – Let other talk about Abductions, Contacts, etc. Let a few of your selected people create popular websites on the extra-terrestrial/paranormal theme, etc.

4 – Allow main-stream media cover UFO stories as a “matter-of-fact” articles so people who only believe what main-stream media says can start thinking, “Maybe UFOs are real.” No more critising believers as they did in the past.

5 – Allow UFO documents held by the government come forth through “The Freedom of Information Act.” These documents will point out that UFO do exist (though they really don’t).

6 – Finally, have various government agencies, such as NASA, naval intelligence, FBI, etc. finally admit that we have been visited by others; there is life on other planets, etc. Thus, mission complete.

What Do I Mean By All of This?

Again, my theory is, that if this plan is followed, it’s long in planning – even over several generations – the majority of people will believe in something to be a total lie by FIRST DENYING it exists, then admitting it does exist.

To explain in more detail, one would deny such live outside out planet exists but let pressure build up, make some “controlled slip-ups” to get people to question what the government is doing. Make phony reports over the years that can be shown later to future generations. This way the public would think this is all genuine “After all, they are old documents and reports filed years ago, so this must be real.” This also gives the illuision that “the people are in control.”

Then, when NASA, for example, says that, “UFOs are real. Sorry, we covered it up as we thought you couldn’t take truth back then, but now we feel you need to know; it’s a matter of national emergency.” What purpose does this serve to say all this? I think it severs several agendas, such as:

Justification of NASA

Justification of huge defense spending

Bringing in a One World Government (ZOG)

International Banking

Taxing the people

Controlling the people

Covering up the fact that the earth is flat, with a dome, and that planets don’t exist as we know them

Keeping people from believing in the Bible (which really is the number one thing that the rulers really want)

NASA and others realize that the people will soon wake up – after all it’s hard to keep faking space fligths, man-made satellites, pictures of other planets, landing on the moon, etc. They realize that people will wake up – as they are doing now. If too many wake up and pressure is put on the government that means that their multi-billion dollar budget they get each year from Congress will dry up immediately. The extremely wealthy within NASA don’t like this, so they have to keep the con game going, and by introducing the “alien factor” this will do it.

Once People Accept the Belief in Aliens

Once the people accept the belief in aliens – and it will look geniune because the government “finally admits” that it’s true – then the money will keep pouring in. After all, we now have to be protected by aliens. That means 100s of billions for defence, black ops projects, NASA, etc.

The bankers love this as this is how they make their money – through loans and interest on it.

“We must all pull together, we can’t be divided. The only way to fight this alien presense is by a One World Government.”

With increased spending, there are more taxes, with more taxes, that means less money for you, with less money for you means CONTROL.

With aliens from other planets, that means there must be other global planets and their star systems. This means that earth is a globe, too, and there there is no dome to prevent aliens from entering.

With the re-inforced belief that we are just one planet out of billions, people will remain agnostic, athiest or a member of some cult religion. These critics will continue to say, “How can you believe in the Bible when it says, ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes on Him shall not die but have ever-lasting life.’ Then what about all the other planets. If God has only one son, how can He send His son to other planets that have sin (surely their must be other planets with sin out of billions!). How do you explain this?”

This is what non-Christians will say and what will Christians answer? How can we be significate and special with God when there could be billions of other inhabitable planets out there?

Keeping the People From the Bible

The whole key, the real key to all this lie about the true nature of the earth is to keep the people from the Bible. Now, this may sound like I’m getting off the subject but I’m not. If the people are kept from believing in the Bible as the literal word of God – by whatever method that works – this means that the people will not look to the Bible for answers to everyday problems. The answers to problems like:

Health

Happiness

Propserity

Freedom

People will be looking to other man-made philosophies and modern-day New Age gurus for answers. They are turning to people like: Gregg Braden, David Icke, Jordon Maxwell, Deli Lama, etc.

Money is on most people’s minds and by not turning to the Bible – people will not know that God condems usury/interest. It is usury or interests (really one and the same) that is destroying economies like Greece, Spain, and indeed, the rest of the world. People who don’t believe in the Bible will not read the solution; when nations get themselves into debt like this (through unbiblical living) that such debt should be cancelled. That includes private, corporate and government.

One way to get people to turn to the Bible is through the flat earth truth. If you are familiar with the history of the flat earth, you’ll know that those of the late 19th and early 20th Century were Bible believes – you can read some of their booklets and pamphlets on this site.

In short, this is what I believe is going on with the “disclosure of aliens” and how it relates to the flat earth.

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Yahoo News UFO July 12

There seems to be a trend now when main-stream news reports about UFOs. In the past there was denial and critical reports about the UFOs, now they just report it matter-of-factly. They don’t say anything negative like they did before.

Now, realizing that UFOs exist is part of the cover-up of the global earth belief, there is a reason why there is no negative reports now. It’s all part of Hegelian Dialectics. By eventually “coming clean” it will leave the public with a reinforced belief that there are planets out there, that there is life out there, which means that the planet is a globe as well as all other planets. It also gives the impression that the silent majority “won”. This will pacify the sheepeople and give them the illusion that they finally were able to get the government and military to come clean. Thus, we will continue to be “happy little slaves.” This is exactly what the real world leaders want – the ILLUSION that the people won. After all, NASA is an expert in keeping up the flat earth illusion to begin with. Gradually reporting about “UFO pictures” as a regular news story is all part of it. In fact, as of this writing (12 July, 2015), there were two UFO reports on main-stream Yahoo News and neither one of them were negative. This should tell you something!

What is strange about the photos in this article (click link below)? The UFO is blurry. And it looks like it is right above the ice or sea, so where is the shadow? The article and photo in the other Yahoo News item is the same. You almost never get a clear photo of a UFO. The one picture here can be made better with Photoshop.

Check out the full article here.

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The Film: Ancient Aliens Debunked

For believers in the flat earth and the true nature of planets and stars, your next question might be, “What about extra-terrestrials (E.T.s) Here is a 3 hour 10 minute documentary on ancient aliens. Now, before you get upset and think that this is a cheap government hatchet job, consider this video first. Even if you don’t believe in all of it, there are many questions raised.

When the video talks about the Great Pyramid, doesn’t mean that man came up with the plans. Have you ever considered the plans were given to them by our Creator, God? After all, this is what God did with Noah – plans on building the Ark.

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Aliens Don’t Exist: Testimony by William Cooper

Project Bluebeam

I agree up to the 9 minute mark. Then Bill talks about the types of government. But talking about the aliens, perhaps this is why, or one of the reasons why he was murdered by the US Government shortly after 9-11.

At one time Bill Cooper believed in UFOs when he was in Naval Intelligence and after he left. But it was years later that he learned the agenda of the US Government and that he was being used. Listen to what he said in this short video.

For more, check our next post…

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Questioning Previous Beliefs: Coral Castle

The secret: block-and-tackle.

The secret: block-and-tackle!

  Here is something that I believed in, and that is how Coral Castle in Florida was made. Listening to Jeff Rense years ago, he had a guest that talked about this. He theorized that it was made with some ancient knowledge like they used in Egypt to build the Great Pyramid. This guy had the ability to lift heavy blocks of coral in place. There was also talk by this guest that Alien knowledge was used. This, along with 100 others articles help create the existence of Aliens in my mind. Of course, IF there were billions of other planets out there, it’s only normal to assume that there is other life out there and that a few of them travelled to planet earth. But if we are the only ones here, then who could travel to visit us? (With the exception of angels, of course.)

Believing in the flat earth, I started to questions Aliens (ETs), as I know the only place outside of the earth and the dome is Heaven.

This video is made up, in part of the builder of Coral Castle – old footage. Here is proof how those blocks, some weighing in at 10 tons were moved. You’ll also learn that this very same, NON-SECRET, method is used today.

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