Clouds Behind the Sun

The Sun behind the clouds

The Sun behind the clouds

Sometimes the truth is staring us right in the face. Do your own experiment – the next time you are on the beach, for example, and its a partly cloudy sky, take a picture of it. When you see clouds behind the sun, does that mean that the clouds are 93 million miles away? Of course not! What this is telling you is that the sun is within our atmosphere AND it’s much smaller than we are told.

This is a good video to watch about the flat earth. This really makes you think about your positon in the universe.

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Spinning ball of water in slow motion

Here is a video I found by accident of someone putting water on a spinning ball and filming it at high speed to see what it looks like. This will make an excellent flat earth experiment. This is what happens when the ball is spun by hand (a couple of miles per hour at the most). Now, tell your friend what it would be if it was at 1,000mph. Gravity or no gravity no way can water stay in a spinning ball at 1,000mph!

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Jesuits and the Flat Earth Cover Up

Here is a good article that I found online today. It’s about the Jesuits and how they kept the flat earth information from the public. It’s a long and well researched article.

This essay is an attempt to lay the groundwork to show primary and circumstantial evidence that the Society of Jesuits (Jesus), founded by Ignatius Loyola in 1540, have been highly instrumental in the creating and perpetuating the Great 500 year Lie that the Earth is a round ball sphere rotating around a central Sun held in orbit by gravity.

Below you will find that the Jesuits and the Vatican have been the intimately and deeply involved in all things space, including owning the earliest telescopes and to this day, the largest owners of observatories and telescopes in the world today.

From Copernicus’ dedication to “On the Revolutions” to Pope Paul III to Galileo Galili who was feted Rome, honoured by the Jesuits of the Roman College and received by Pope Paul V to Isaac Newton who conspired with Jesuits at Lige in England to Albert Einstein who yielded, the publicly praised, the Big Bang Theory Story created by his colleague, Jesuit Priest, Georges Lamaitre, the Society of Jesuits have been intimately involved with both the spreading of heliocentric theory and the burying of 5,000 years of Flat Earth Cosmology.

The Jesuits are rulers of all powers that we are aware of and are ruthless in their pursuit of world domination for centuries, no matter who is killed or what has to be done to maintain and establish world order out of chaos.

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Flat Earth discussion with popular YouTuber Stefan Molyneux

Flat Earth discussion with popular YouTuber Stefan Molyneux

Stefan Molyneux who has 284,000 followers had a caller ask him what he knows about the flat earth. The interview went well, the host, Stefan allowed the caller, Steven, time to explain his position. Steven (who sounds like Eric Dubay) presented a lot of facts – he really knows his subject. The interview went well, but it seemed to digress towards the end by the host of the program.

I would like to add some comments.

Stefan was still in disagreement and it sounds like it was because not all his questions were answered. This, I feel is a cop out. If they guy had 100 questions and you answered 80 of them, for example, and the questions you answered were the most important – do you really have to answer all of them? Of course not.

Did you ever see the edge?

One question that Stefan had was, “Did you ever see the edge?” The answer was no and I don’t think anyone has except a very few of the people in a top secret classified position and they will not tell you. But even if you haven’t, which no flat earther that went public can say they “saw the edge,” do you really need that to prove that the earth is flat? Of course not, you can prove it’s flat by using the math of “8 inches squared the distance.” just mention this in your flat earth debate and STICK WITH IT, don’t let your friend go onto another subject until he/she has thoroughly understands it. This will prove if we are on a globe or not.

The host criticised the caller by saying he (the caller) discounts all NASA and other space agency photos and not what people have taken in a balloon. He said this is wrong. Stefan is WRONG; he is not using logic.

 

Many hours searching

Stefan criticised the caller on the amount of hours he sent into searching the flat earth theory. Well, he should look at himself – it seems OK for him to do his research into his other conspiracies but flat earth, that’s a no no. Strange!

The host also said, “If you have a girlfriend you might chase her away with your flat earth talk,” or words to that effect. Maybe that’s part of what is wrong with the world – fearing what other people think. That’s why we are in such a mess as we are because people fear what others might think.

This Stefan has 284,000 followers so he is obviously scared of having subscribers unsubscribe so he doesn’t want to rock the boat.

Believing in God

The host also said that he is an atheist and he admitted that, by accepting the flat earth model he will have to believe in a Creator. Now, I don’t know how many of his subscribers are atheists, so he might not want to lose them. In fact, he said at the end, how how a big mistake he would make if he had to tell his listeners he was mistaken. Of course, he would have to tell them about God. It shows his true colors – he doesn’t want to change his beliefs, believe in God and also lose some of his following.

Keeping a secret

Stefan Molyneux used the argument that how can so many people keep it a secret. My answer to this, which was not given in the interview is, look at the 10s of thousands of people who worked on the Manhatten Project (making of the first atomic bomb) – they kept their mouths shut. How? Mainly by “on a need to know bases,” and by compartmentalisation. This, too, is used with all space agencies.

Think about this, those who build satellite (though they don’t do anything) just have to know their engineering job, not about the nature of planets. Those who build rockets, the same thing.

With that in mind, continue your flat earth research.

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Christians Who Are Wilfully Ignorant About the Flat Earth

There are Christians who are wilfully ignorant about the flat earth. Why is this? I can think of several reasons.

  • They are afraid of what others will think
  • They are mentally lazy and don’t want to do the work
  • They don’t think it’s important for whatever reason
  • They have another agenda – in short they are really not a Christian to begin with

I hope you are not one of the above. I understand if you don’t believe in the flat earth or if you never heard of the arguments about it. If the latter is the case, there is plenty of information right here for you to read and to consider.

This article will focus on those who do know that the earth is flat and what to watch out for for those who are not honest with themselves. If you are not convinced that the earth is flat – all well and good – as this article will be very helpful when you are dealing with others. By using the guideline below, you’ll know if the speaker is telling you the truth – not only on the flat earth topic but on ANY topic – biblical or secular. For, there are certain behaviors dishonest people are engaged in when they don’t want you to learn the truth. Knowing what they are, knowing what questions to ask and comments to make will keeping you from falling for a lie.

  • This article will focus on the flat earth but keep in mind it can be applied to any topic.
  • The person who is not honest about the flat earth will:
  • not want you to read flat earth material
  • not answer difficult questions
  • engage in name calling
  • argue on a minor topic
  • will fret of the detail and ignore the main points
  • need the answer to 100 questions when answering a couple of them will prove the point
  • cut someone off in their talk
  • insult you or insinuate that you are “stupid”
  • become hostel when you don’t agree
  • diverts the question or make light of it and moves on
  • does not back up what he says with facts

I have seen a couple of these traits come up by a Christian who slams flat earth believers. Though this man knows his Bible in many other areas he is, in my opinion, wilfully ignorant when it come to the flat earth.

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Flat Earth Forum

Flat Earth Forum

I’d like to apologize for the error in the link for our flat earth forums. I had left out one letter, and, of course, the link didn’t work. So, if you would like to go to our forum please do so. The correct address is:

http://www.cfeministries.freeforums.net

The full name of our forum is Christian Flat Earth Ministries.

You can join the forum for free and add your thoughts. Or, you can visit it as a guest and read all the material and watch the many videos that are posted there. There are videos there that are not posted here, so be sure to check them out.

Join today and help get the flat earth truth out? It’s Free to join!

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Attraction is a Myth

Attraction is a Myth

From Earth Not a Globe Review, January 1895

By “ Zetetes”

The attraction of gravitation a myth ? Y e s ! a fabulous story, with

no foundation in fact, though having an APPARENT support in some

terrestrial phenomena. Many people imagine that gravitation is a word

representing some discovered fact or force in N atu re ; but let them

proceed to show us what fact or force, and they will discover their

mistake. Gravitation was an invention, not a discovery; and a supposition

necessitated by another hypothesis, viz .; the globular theory. One

was invented to support the other. Without gravitation the globular

theory falls ; and without the globular theory what would become of

gravitation ? I t would become less and lighter than our little molecule

of hydrogen, and fly away into unknown and uncivilized regions.

“ Parallax” proved the globular theory false, by the F A C T that the

surface of water is horizontal; and “ Zetetes,” the investigator after

Truth, practically proves, that the theory of gravitation is utterly false,

by a little molecule of hydrogen gas ! No one can even tell us what

gravitation is, or how it acts. Now, although we may not know what

electricity is, or magnetism ; we do know how they act. As I showed

in No. 2 Earth Review, Newton did not know how gravitation acts, or

whether it really be attraction, or repulsion ; that is, he did not know

whether there is such a thing as attraction or not. Where Newton

failed to guess, what other mathematician dare try ? I f the inventor did

not know, who amongst his pupils can tell ? But they should first prove

that gravitation does act before they attempt to explain how it acts.

The magnet is no proof of gravitation. Its power is selective and

limited. It seems to attract steel and soft iron, but it will not draw

stones and wood ! Gravitation is supposed to attract all bodies, even

the stars. They are all supposed to be pulling hard at one another, yet

they never get any nearer together. It is strange ! But does the magnet

really attract steel ? The iron or steel goes towards the magnet, but is

its motion caused by the attraction or the repulsion of some force ? It

may be carried by a magnetic current, not drawn by the magnet itself.

Newton confessed that the idea of bodies acting “ upon one another at

a distance,” and “ without the mediation o f anything else by and through

which their action and force may be conveyed from one to the other,”

is “ so great an absurdity, that,” says he, “ I believe no man, who has in

philosophical matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into

it.” Yet many do fall into this error. They are not Zetetics. I stand

on a bridge and I watch a log of wood coming down the stream towards

the bridge. Is the bridge attracting the log from a distance ? Yes, as

much as ever the magnet attracts the soft iron ! I f there were a weir by

the bridge, the log would remain by it, as the iron remains attached to

the magnet. I f not, and if the arch under the bridge be sufficiently

wide, the log would pass under and follow the stream. Then the bridge

would seem to be repelling the log, like one “ pole ” of the magnet will

repel the magnetic needle. Ye t by such flimsy arguments and pre

texts is the theory of attraction supported. No man in the world can

define gravitation, nor tell how it acts ; it is a tissue of philosophical

speculations and falsehoods, unworthy of honest men and thinker’s,

perhaps the most ingenious theory of gravitation ever proposed is that

of Le Sage. He “ imagines,” says Mr, J. E. Gore,

“ An infinite number of ultra mundane corpuscles of excessive minuteness, speeding

through space in all directions, and with enormous velocities. Two bodies in this

ocean of flying corpuscles screen each other from the molecular bombardment, and

would consequently move together with a force varying inversely as the square of the

distance.”

Upon which Professor Tait remarks:

“ It is necessary also to suppose that the particles and masses of matter have a cagelike

form, so that enormously more corpuscles pass through them than impinge upon

them ; else the gravitation action between two bodies would not be as the product of

their masses.”

Well might Sir John Herschel say:

“ The hypothesis of Le Sage, which assumes that every point of space is penetrated

at every instant of time by material particles sui gene7-is, moving in right lines in

every possible direction, and impinging upon the material atoms of bodies, as a

mode of accounting for gravitation, is too grotesque to need serious consideration! ”

“ Too grotesque to need serious consideration!” One of the

theories of gravitation “ grotesque ! ” And a clever astronomer says so,

not an humble zetetic! An humble zetetic agrees with him though.

What then must the poorer theories be ? Readers, take your choice

between common sense and reason, theories “too grotesque to need serious

consideration.”

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Gravitation Defined

Gravitation Defined

From Earth Not a Globe Review, January 1895

By “ Zetetes”

In the science schools of to-day our pupils are taught the atomic

theory, namely : that all bodies consist of innumerable minute particles^

so small that they are invisible and cannot be further divided, or cut up,

as their name, atoms, implies. These atoms, the gods of the scientist

and evolutionist, may all be the same size, if we can attach size to such

infinitely small things, or potentialities, but they have not all the same

specific gravity or weight. Hydrogen, a kind of gas, is the lightest body

known. Hydrogen may be obtained by a combination of sulphuric

acid, zinc clippings, and water. As the gas bubbles up through the water

we catch a little in a glass bottle, or a test-tube. We may fix our mind’s

eye upon one molecule of hydrogen, and let all the others go free. -We

work this molecule safely inside a small glass tube. It is the lightest

body known upon the earth, and it is easier to pull about light bodies

than heavy ones. Now, the theory of gravitation is that all the atoms

in the earth and in the world are attracting, or pulling at this molecule

of hydrogen ; and that, being nearest to the earth, the latter will have the

most power over it. We will not pause to show further the absurdity of

this theory, and the infinite number of bonds and filaments our little

molecule must possess to be in pulling connection with all the atoms of

the universe; but we will proceed to liberate it from the bottle, not from

the bonds, and watch, with mental vision, its behaviour, on being so far

set free. Now what course ought the molecule to take, if the theory of

our astronomical friends be true ? Clearly and rapidly downwards to

the earth, pulled down unmercifully by ten thousand times ten million

threads or gravitating cords. We turn the bottle neck downwards and

draw the cork. The molecule of hydrogen ascends in the glass, and

refuses to leave the bottle. Remember, every atom in the so-called

“ globe” is pulling with all its might at our little molecule of hydrogen;

yet It refuses to leave the jar ! Turn the glass right side up, and now

our molecule, really liberated, mounts up above the highest clouds, in

complete defiance of the combined pull of all the gravitating forces in

the “ globe.” That molecule must be a Zetetic. It stands aloof from

all the nonsensical “ forces,” or theories, of the astronomers, and mounts

upwards and onwards in defiance of them. It defies, as we defy, all

their metaphysical “ reasoning ” and jargon about gravitation. I f

bodies falling to the earth prove gravitation, what do bodies ascending

from the earth prove ? I f the “ globe ” can pull at a distant body like

the moon and make it “ fall ” through sixteen feet per second, why can

it not pull at air, smoke, clouds, gases, & a , close at hand, and make

them all lie down in layers upon its surface ? The conclusion is evident;

a force that cannot overcome a little helpless molecule of hydrogen, is

no force at all. The apple was too much for it, and so is the molecule.

Bodies rise or fall, according to their inherent density, or weight, and

they remain at rest whenever and wherever they attain their equilibria.

This is reasonable, because it is natural; yet at the same time it is utterly

opposed to the fanciful speculations of the scientists, who darken counsel

with words without knowledge. In the whole wide world there is no

such thing as the astronomer’s “ attraction of gravitation.” I challenge

any of them to prove it. I will, in conclusion, proceed to show that

their idea of.

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Something on Gravitation

From Earth Not a Globe Review, January 1895

By “ Zetetes”

A correspondent, interested in Zetetic Truth, asks me for “ Something

on Gravitation.” I propose, therefore, to give a few of my thoughts

thereon in the Earth Review, as others besides my missionary friend

may be interested in reading something on this subject.

But a difficulty meets one at the outset. How am I to write

“ something” about nothing? I cannot create, as some erroneously

suppose the world was made, out of nothing. Paul says the things which

are seen were not made out of “ phenomena,” or things which do appear ;

but he nowhere teaches that they came out of absolutely nothing, except

invisibility. Now, “ Gravitation ” has been created, not only out of

invisibility, but out of nothing, except the vain imaginations of astronomical

minds. I t was not “ discovered,” but invented; and I shall

proceed to prove that there is no such thing as the “ attraction of

Gravitation ” in God’s universe, and that the phenomena supposed to

countenance the theory are capable of other and more natural interpretations.

O f course, I speak of “ Gravitation ” in the astronomical sense

of a universal power in all bodies, celestial and terrestrial, to attract, or

pull one another together, with forces directly in proportion to their

masses, and inversely as the squares of their distances. So that terrestrial

attraction and phenomena will be seen to be only a small part of this

question of Universal Gravitation. The former we may explain by

weight and currents ; but the latter we utterly deny. Let us try, in the

first place, to realize what is meant by, and implied in the astronomical

theory of gravitation, and its

Universal Attraction

According to this idea, every body in the universe, however large or

small, has the power, by some means or other, to attract, or pull towards

itself, every other body in the universe, however near or distant. Yea,

not only is every body supposed to have this power, but the power is

said to be in actual operation every moment of time for ever. So that,

if I hold an apple in my hand, it is connected with, and pulling at all

the apples in the world ; all the pears and plums, all the trees, gardens,

walls, houses, all the stones, rocks, rivers, and mountains; yea, and every

separate drop of water in the ocean, and every grain of sand on the sea

shore. A n d these are a ll pulling at the apple. Yet it remains passively

on my hand, while I study gravitation, or decide whether I will eat the

apple now, or leave it for further experimentation. This apple ought

to dance about, or at least to show some symptoms of the awful internal

struggles going on within it. Perhaps it has learned the art of appearing

passive, an art which some astronomers seem to acquire, and to keep a

quiet and serene countenance, while internally tortured with ten thousand

doubts and pangs. Ten thousand ! Yea, ten thousand times ten

thousand gravitating cords or strings are pulling at it ! For we must

remember that sun, moon and stars, and supposed millions of millions

of “ other worlds than ours ” are each and all interested in that apple;

and they send out their innumerable long and filamentous fingers to

clutch it out of my open hand. Ye t it remains outwardly unmoved in

.serene and blushing passivity. 1 shall have to eat it, threads and all,

with whatever tentacles, or other attractive matter may be attached to

it! What a peril! But there is such an attractive force, either in the

apple, or in the natural taste God has given us for common fruit, as well,

as for common sense, that I take all risks and disappoint the sun and

stars. I am glad that Newton was led to muse over an apple falling to

the ground by its own weight, when the stalk was rotten. He would

have mused more had it “ fallen ” upwards.

But we, dear reader, can also muse over apples. While so musing, I

wonder why my apple makes no tremulous motion towards the moon,

which is rising as I write, especially as she is now between the two

“ ponderous and superior” planets. Mars and Jupiter, which are approaching

towards conjunction. Ye t through the varying positions and

relationships of the heavenly bodies, as they roll around the world and

my apple, it remained on the shelf twenty-four hours perfectly stationary,

as though no such tremendous forces were playing their mighty artillery

upon it. They may try from their various vantage grounds, east or west,

north or south, mid-heaven or sideways, yet the apple will not move.

Yet a breath would have caused it to roll. There is no proof for

Zetetics of universal attraction in this apple. But perhaps mine is

different from Newton’s. It will not bow to fair Luna as she pulls it

sideways, assisted by the two powerful giants, one on each side, attending

her like guards, much less will it attempt to rise towards the mighty sun

as he pulls with all his meridian power and glory. Its weight is the same

throughout the twenty-four hours. No ! friends. I must see an apple fall

upwards before I believe in solar gravitation.

But a superficial thinker may object that the reason bodies only fall

downwards to the earth is, because the earth being nearer than the sun,

its force of attraction is the greater of the two. Is it ? Let us take

another instance, which proves, not only that there is no such thing as

terrestrial gravitation, or attraction, but which shows that this supposed

power may be defied.

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Using the Flat Earth Design in Building a Home

Grand-Designs-3I recently saw a UK program called “Grand Designs” of one family who had the first floating home built in England. This was on an island in the Thames. It wasn’t until near the end that I realised that this home is built, in part, on what the flat earth is theorised to be built on. It was really amazing when I connected the home to the flat earth!

Now, of course, the builders nor any one else knows about the flat earth but from my reading of the flat earth and its surroundings it was how, in small part, this home was built.

To prevent the home from being flooded the builders went about 4 meters into the ground. From there they build the walls and floor. Within this “box without a lid” construction was built the basement. So, visualise a box within a box. This smaller “box” would be the basement and the home would sit on top of it. There was a narrow space between the two “box like construction” where the water would go if there was a flood (which usually is on the island). The basement weighted 150 tons (I didn’t hear them say the weight of the rest of the house). This basement was mounted on what looked like steel girders.

Then the test when there was just the basement frame built. The contractor had water from the Thames River pumped into it to make sure it was waterproof. The workers and the owners looked down on the incomplete construction as the water was pumped in. Sure enough, the basement rose.

When the house was completed, there was a flood and indeed the home rose. I believe that the home could rise about 10 feet high! But they had noticed a problem and that was the home tilted! When Kevin McCloud, the host of the program was there, the owner put a billiard ball on the kitchen table and the ball slowly rolled down. He said this indicates the the home is slanting to the left. The contractor came out again and went to a small craw space below the basement. This was entered by a small opening in the floor. There, he placed cinder blocks on one side of the home until there was no more tilt. Sure enough, the billiard ball did not roll.

When Kevin stepped inside the home he said you could not tell if the home was floating on water. Earlier in the program he did a little experiment to show how the home would work (this was before the building was completed). He had a plexiglass see through container and inside it was a box made out of some heavy material. Then he poured the water in on the outside of this box. (The box had no top just like the real construction.) There was only a small space between the dimensions of the plexiglass container and the heavy box to which the water was pour. You would think that something that big and of a heavy weight placed inside a container that had, in turn, a small amount of water would not be enough buoyancy – but there was. He mentioned some “law” but I hadn’t heard of it nor remembered what he said. In short this law of physics is the bases of the “floating home” construction.

View the video here…

Relating this to the flat earth

We read in the Bible and in old flat earth booklets and books that quote the Bible that the earth is built on the foundations of the earth, the firmament and the dividing of waters (Genesis chapter 1), and other places.

I have learned from reading the Bible and flat earth material that the earth is built on a sea but not the sea that we see; that there are foundations to the earth to stabilise it so “it shall not move” as God said.

The earth not only has to be flat but it has to be level or otherwise we’d feel it. Like in the “Grand Designs” program when the owner put the billiard ball on the table. Even a tilt of the earth would be noticeable. Imagine if the earth was on a globe – we’d be falling all over the place.

There are some flat earthers (those who follow Mark Sargent) says the earth is kind of shaped like a roulette table. This is a lie and just as bad as believing in a globe earth.

This home has foundations, just as we are told that the earth has foundations. Being in this home when there was a flood and it was essentially sitting on water, you have no feeling at all that you were on water (unlike being in a boat). So, it is with the earth.

You can see the whole program here.

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