Antarctica and Flat Earth part 3

“If we now consider the fact that when we travel by land or sea, and from any part of the known world, in a direction towards the North polar star, we shall arrive at one and the same point, we are forced to the conclusion that what has hitherto been called the North Polar region, is really the center of the Earth. That from this northern center the land diverges and stretches out, of necessity, towards a circumference, which must now be called the Southern region: which is a vast circle, and not a pole or center … In this and other ways all the great navigators have been frustrated in their efforts, and have been more or less confounded in their attempts to sail round the Earth upon or beyond the Antarctic circle. But if the southern region is a pole or center, like the north, there would be little difficulty in circumnavigating it, for the distance round would be comparatively small. When it is seen that the Earth is not a sphere, but a plane, having only one center, the north; and that the south is the vast icy boundary of the world, the difficulties experienced by circumnavigators can be easily understood.” –Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Earth Not a Globe, 2nd Edition” (21-23)

If the Earth were truly a globe, then every line of latitude South of the equator would have to measure a gradually smaller and smaller circumference the farther South traveled. In other words, the circumference at 10 degrees South latitude would comprise a smaller circle than at the equator, 20 degrees South latitude would comprise a circle smaller than 10, and so on. If, however, the Earth is an extended plane, then every line of latitude South of the equator should measure a gradually larger and larger circumference the farther South traveled. 10 degrees South latitude will comprise a larger circle than the equator, 20 degrees South latitude will comprise a circle larger than 10, and so on. Likewise, if the Earth were a globe, lines of longitude would bubble out at the equator while converging at both poles. Whereas if the Earth is an extended plane, lines of longitude should simply expand straight outwards from the North Pole. So which is actually the case?

“Upon the principle, as taught by Scripture and common observation, that the world is not a Planet, but consists of vast masses of land stretched out upon level seas, the North being the centre of the system, it is evident that the degrees of longitude will gradually increase in width the whole way from the North centre to the icy boundary of the great Southern Circumference. In consequence of the difference between the actual extent of longitudes and that allowed for them by the Nautical Authorities, which difference, at the latitude of the Cape of Good Hope, has been estimated to amount to a great number of miles, many Ship-masters have lost their reckoning, and many vessels have been wrecked. Ship-captains, who have been educated in the globular theory, know not how to account for their getting so much out of their course in Southern latitudes, and generally put it down to currents; but this reason is futile, for although currents may exist, they do not usually run in opposite directions, and vessels are frequently wrecked, whether sailing East or West.” –David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma” (102)

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Antarctica and Flat Earth part 2

Before reaching the Antarctic ice-wall, navigating the increasingly tumultuous Southern oceans, explorers encounter the longest, darkest, coldest nights and the most dangerous seas and storms anywhere on Earth. Vasco de Gama, an early 16th century Portuguese explorer of the South Seas wrote how, “The waves rise like mountains in height; ships are heaved up to the clouds, and apparently precipitated by circling whirlpools to the bed of the ocean. The winds are piercing cold, and so boisterous that the pilot’s voice can seldom be heard, whilst a dismal and almost continual darkness adds greatly to the danger.”

In 1773 Captain Cook became the first modern explorer known to have breached the Antarctic Circle and reached the ice barrier. During three voyages, lasting three years and eight days, Captain Cook and crew sailed a total of 60,000 miles along the Antarctic coastline never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall! Captain Cook wrote: “The ice extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height. It was indeed my opinion that this ice extends quite to the pole, or perhaps joins some land to which it has been fixed since creation.”

On October 5th, 1839 another explorer, James Clark Ross began a series of Antarctic voyages lasting a total of 4 years and 5 months. Ross and his crew sailed two heavily armored warships thousands of miles, losing many men from hurricanes and icebergs, looking for an entry point beyond the southern glacial wall. Upon first confronting the massive barrier Captain Ross wrote of the wall, “extending from its eastern extreme point as far as the eye could discern to the eastward. It presented an extraordinary appearance, gradually increasing in height, as we got nearer to it, and proving at length to be a perpendicular cliff of ice, between one hundred and fifty feet and two hundred feet above the level of the sea, perfectly flat and level at the top, and without any fissures or promontories on its even seaward face. We might with equal chance of success try to sail through the cliffs of Dover, as to penetrate such a mass.”

“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,’ is often said by those who don’t know, The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region – indirectly, to be sure – but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles – a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis.” -William Carpenter, “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” (78)

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Antarctica and the Flat Earth, part 1

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Bases on Antarctic

Knowledge about the Antarctica and the ice wall is an important study for those who want to know more about the flat earth. Here are a series of Post from what writers and explores of more than 100 years ago said. Back then, what the Antarctica explores said about their discoveries were not censored. Here is the first post from old flat earth booklets.

“The ice-barrier, so frequently referred to in accounts of the Antarctic regions, is the fore-front of the enormous glacier-covering, or ice-cap, which, accumulating in vast, undulating fields from the heavy snowfall, and ultimately attaining hundreds, if not thousands, of feet in thickness, creeps from the continent of Antarctica into the polar sea. The ice-barrier, yet a part of the parent ice-cap, presents itself to the navigator who has boldness enough to approach its fearful front, as a solid, perpendicular wall of marble-like ice, ranging from one thousand to two thousand feet in thickness, of which from one hundred to two hundred feet rises above, and from eight hundred to eighteen hundred feet sinks below, the level of the sea.” -Greely, General A. W. “Antarctica, or the Hypothetical Southern Continent.” Cosmopolitan 17 (1894): p. 296

“It has been demonstrated that the earth is a plane, the surface-centre of which is immediately underneath the star called ‘Polaris,’ and the extremities of which are bounded by a vast region of ice and water and irregular masses of land. The whole terminates in fog and darkness, where snow and driving hail, piercing sleet and boisterous winds, howling storms, madly-mounting waves, and clashing icebergs are almost constant.” –Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, “Zetetic Astronomy, Earth Not a Globe!” (117)

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What Made Christians Believe In A Flat Earth?

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By Richard Snowden

(Note: This is more of a homework assignment rather than an article that tells you everything. Enjoy!)

What made Christians believe in a flat earth – as the one that you see here? What made the ancient Israelites (as opposed to Jews) believe in a flat earth?

In this picture you see:

a flat earth

a dome structure

waters beneath the earth

stars in the firmament

foundations of the earth

God in heaven above the firmament

A simple answer as to how the ancient Israelites/Christians believe as they did was because they believed what God wrote (inspired men). They searched the scripture for other verses with the key words. Also, there wasn’t the false prophets that you see on TV today that influenced their study. They used logic in their research. Finally, they did care or know of “political correctness’.”

So, how can you confirm this and come to the same conclusion as the above picture? Here are some simple things to keep in mind.

Just do a word search with such words as:

Heaven

earth

firmament

sun

moon

stars

If you have a Bible software program, such as e-sword that you get from e-sword.net you can get this for free. Then it’s very easy to find all the relative verses. Write down all the key characteristics

Doing a search on each word, you’ll have a good idea of how our little universe really looks like.

When you do your research in the bible, your model of heaven and earth should come close to what you see pictured here. Finally, when you read secular articles or watch videos on the flat earth, you’ll see it matches what the Bible says. In short, God did tell us much of how earth really looks like.

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Heaven and Earth Verses Indicates a Flat Earth

by Richard Snowden

There are about 18 verses in the Bible where the words “heaven” and “earth” appear relatively close to each other. By reading these verses, we get an indication of the nature of the earth.

In Gen. 49.25 we read: Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

In Deut 4.39 we read: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

(The underlines are mine.)

We read the words “above” and “below” which has much more significance then what we usually think. If the earth is round, what is “above” for England is not “above” for people in Chile. There would be those who agree but they would say, “That’s the practical way to describe it; we have to use our perception.” I would agree with them if the earth is a globe. But if the earth is flat than the words “above” and “below” would have more meaning. In fact, so would words “up” and “down” would have more of a meaning, too.

You can only have a “above” and “below” if there’s a universal base line; above has to be in relation to something, as does the words below, up and down.

When Christians are asked by non-believers where heaven is, they would say “above,” and point up. Others would phrase it, “somewhere up there.” Then, the atheist could turn around and say, “Where? The universe is estimated to be 13 billion light years in radius. So, exactly where is “where”?

The atheist would say, “In space, there is no above, below, up and down. So, how could God say heaven is above the earth?” At this time, the atheist would use this as another point that the Bible is wrong.

There are millions of Christians who believe in what the astronomers say. The astronomers and other scientists would have to say the Bible is wrong. The Christians, on the other hand would say, “These verses are not meant to be literal.” in short, they’d talk their way out of it. This is not being honest and the non-Christians of whatever type will ridicule the Christians.

Kent Hovid, is a popular Creationist teacher, yet when it comes to the cosmos he believes in just about everything the astronomers say. He believes that there are billions and billions of galaxies and he believes in the distance of the stars. But he ignores the verses such as you see here.

In Deuteronomy we read: (Deu 5:8) Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:

This verse clearly shows that there is a relationship between heaven, earth and the waters. If the cosmos is what we are told to us by the media, how would heaven have any significance to the earth, which might be 3 billion light years away? In fact, a planet that is “only” 3 million light years away from heaven would have more meaning.

The Clincher

If the universe is as huge as we are told, anyone can argue as to where heaven is. One person can say it’s a million miles up and another can argue 1 million or 1 billion light years. But if the earth is flat and we are the only planet (plane), then heaven would be a very close to the earth. Again, keep in mind there is no “above” or “below” in space.

(Psa 103:11) For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

Now, here is a very interesting verse:

(Isa 14:13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

If the universe is what we are told by astronomers and others, how would it be possible to get above the stars? This is where Christians will say something like, “it’s figurative and not to be taken literally.” And, this is where atheists and others would say, “You can’t believe in the Bible.” The atheists, agnostics, pagans, Buddhists and others would have a point, “How can you get above the stars?” If you “ascend” above the stars, you’d have to be traveling pretty fast to catch up and keep moving to “stay ahead of the ever expanding universe. And, what would be on the other side.?” They have a point, and that is why Christians would all of a sudden say that this part of the Bible is figurative. I admit that there are some parts of the bible that is figurative. Descriptions in Revelation of the creatures, for example, represent something else. But what if this part of the Bible, as in Isaiah 14.13, were literal. Wouldn’t the Bible have more of a meaning? I certainly think so.

Flat earth believers know that the stars are much closer to earth. There is no agreed upon distance, but the figures anywhere from a couple of hundred miles to a couple of thousand miles. For we read in other parts of the Bible that the stars are in the firmament, which, in turn covers the earth. With this in mind, it’s understandable that a fallen angel can see himself above the stars. For, above the stars would be heaven itself and where Yahweh is.

Here is another verse that talks about being above the stars. (Nah 3:16) Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven: the cankerworm spoileth, and flieth away.

I hope you have a better understanding of the earth and its surrounds. Continue to check out the bible and find out more for yourself.

 

 

 

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The Flat Earth: Above and Below

The Flat Earth: Above and Below

When we are told something with the word “above” or “below” we know the meaning of it. “The dishes are above the counter,” or “I put the books on the shelve under the nick knacks,” for example. But most of us don’t realize the importance of these simple words. To us flat earthers, “above” and “below” should have more importance.

If people believe what the astronomers tell us about space and the infinite suns and planets – there can be no “above, below, up, down.” We all know this – even globe earth believers. The reason is, (assuming space exists as we are told) that is no above, below as there is no base line. For how can one galaxy be above another if there is nothing to compare it with?

Now, let’s look at the earth. Regardless of beliefs, we all use the words: above, below, up, down. And we all know the meaning of these words. But when heliocentric believers use these words they use the words in how they perceive things; they can’t use it in the same sense as geocentric believers. They may think they do but they are wrong.

Here is an example of heliocentric believer’s use. If he was in Australia he would say, “Look at that blue bird above us.” But what would be above for the Aussies, would it be above for someone in Denmark, for example? No, as it would be in opposite directions. So, the word, “above” has no absolute meaning. This, includes the words: below, up, down.

Heliocentric believers would say, “This is how we use the words; it’s based on our perception. That’s the only way we can describe it.” Well, this may be true but what if there’s an absolute – where is there a base line in which we can use as a reference? Well, there is with a geocentric world. IF the world were really round, we would still use these words, as it’s the only way to communicate to others. But what I hope to show later is that with a flat earth, these words take on more of a meaning.

With the earth being flat – that means there is a line (though imaginary) where anything above it is “up” or “above,” or “down” and “below.” Thus, what is “above” for the Aussie, is “above” for the Dane, as well. In a geocentric world these words have truly become universal. In a heliocentric world, it’s a different direction for everyone.

It’s impossible to have a universal direction on a round planet. Look at the drawing as an example:

As you can see, the base line that can be used for a reference point does not exist on a planet. If you were standing in Australia, you “can imagine” a straight line or surface you are standing on but if you draw that out, it would not be the same for everyone in the world. In fact, it won’t be the same for someone in your own country. A person 100 miles away, his angel will be slightly different. Compare this to someone in Denmark, for example, the degrees out of alignment from the guy in Australia is really off.

Heaven Above

For Christians, we have read verses of with the words “heaven” and “above” in them. Here is an example:

(Gen 49:25) Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

(Exo 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

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NASA Debunked in 17 Minutes

These astronauts knew too much so the government had to make sure they wouldn’t talk. Could part of what they knew was that there never would be a Moon landing? Could they have known the true nature of the earth, Moon and the firmament? I think so. Watch this video to find out who and how these people were killed.

One question that many would have when studying the flat earth theory is, “How did we get to the Moon if this flat earth stuff is true?” Watch this video and see if you have any doubts if we still went there…

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The Ultimate Flat Earth Photo

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What could be the ultimate flat earth photo? And, how can you get the ultimate picture of the flat earth? This is what every flat earther would like. I had thought about this about a month ago. Now, I’m putting this in print.

As I gave some thought to getting a great picture to help prove the earth is flat, I thought it still cost a couple of thousand dollars – so it is doable for many people.

The way to get a great picture would be to go on a tourist trip to the Antarctic. Or, it might be better to go on a cargo ship, as I’ll explain later. You would need permission first, but if you get it then you’re on your way. What you’ll need to take is a high altitude balloon with camera(s) mounted, and, of course, a tank filled with helium. Ideally, the camera will have to be able to transmit photos or video back to your laptop computer; this balloon should be able to reach 70.000 feet or more.

Why the Antarctic?

Simply because you are closest to the edge of the earth. All the pictures we’ve seen – whether it’s from a balloon or plane – is from a place that is thousands of miles from the edge. They’re usually taken somewhere in the Northern Hemisphere. But by taking the pictures in the Antarctic, you’re much closer to the edge.

How are is the edge from the Antarctic?

I don’t know but I’ve read it could be 300 miles. It might be more, it might be less. If the distance is too far – the picture will not be the ‘ultimate picture,’ as all you’ll see is a flat horizon.

What could the picture look like?

If the distance is not too far, we should see something different than just a flat horizon – we would see a curve. This curve, would not be because of a globe earth but a curve from a flat disk. There is a dome of some sort to keep our atmosphere in; the Bible calls it a ‘firmament.’ How does this firmament look like? I don’t know. It could be something that you can see, or it could be something that is transparent like. All of this is speculation, of course. If you can see through it, it might not be clear but you might be able to see the blackness of space; you might be able to see stars. And this blackness or other colour would be above the curve of the flat earth. If you were closer you might be able to see the abyss of the greater ocean, as the Bible speaks about.

Since the governments of the world will not allow you to fly across the Antarctic, the only way you can get an idea of what is further inland is from pictures of a high altitude balloon. Of course, the higher the balloon goes the further the distance you can see.

I’m sure I’m not the first person to think of this. Maybe NASA or some other space agency has already done this, I don’t know. They might have their pictures. In fact, I would be surprised if they don’t have their picture of the circular edge of the earth. Except for a few people of the earth, how this firmament looks like is a mystery.

Commercial Ship

If a tourist ship is not possible, it may be easier to take your cargo on a commercial barge that ships containers of goods. The location should be around Cape Horn as this would be closer to the coast of Antarctic. Tell the captain you are doing a documentary on this but don’t tell him anything about the flat earth. The company that owns the ship will make extra money and being on a commercial ship, taking a balloon and a tank of helium gas should pose no problem. You will want to know in advance how close commercial shipping will go to the coast, then do you calculation. If the distance is too far, you might not be able to get the pictures you want. You also want to check with a mathematician to calculate how far you can see if you are at 70,000 feet – or whatever altitude your balloon can go. Doing this first, will save you from wasting a trip.

Make a Documentary

It would be good to make a documentary on what you are doing, as this will give you something to sell to help finance your trip. Naturally, you should bring someone with you to help with the experiment and to take videos of your trip.

I know that people will pirate your documentary, as they do with everything but that doesn’t stop people from making films and selling them on the internet. This documentary would be of interest to many, so there should be some people who will buy it to cover your cost. However, the person who does this experiment should be willing to foot the bill for everything and not expect a return – the documentary sales will only be secondary. The main thing is, to get the ‘ultimate flat earth picture.’

The reason why I said a camera that can transmit photos back is better, is because if you have to retrieve the balloon, you might be able to retrieve it. If the balloon is sent up from a ship, it’ll land in the ocean and all your pictures will be lost. This way, if you get pictures sent back to your laptop, you don’t have to worry about the balloon. Don’t expect to get your camera back if you are launching the balloon from a ship.

Do such photos of the edge of the flat earth already exist?

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Antarctic base Chile.

  I expect they do; I’m sure someone in the military has done this experiment before. The pictures might have been taken by a high altitude jet. However, there might be other countries who hasn’t done this. For example, Chile or Argentina could easily conduct their own experiments. Many counties have bases on the Antarctic where such tests with high altitude balloon could be flown. But the fact is, the public has no photos. So that is why an individual flat earther will have to do this.

There is a possibility that some whistle blower in some nation that could leak the photos on the internet. From there, flat earthers could download the pictures/videos, and use this evidence when talking to others about the flat earth. In the meantime, the only way to get pictures of the edge is for some ‘average person’ to do it and share it with the rest of the world.

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? Part 2

Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? Part 2

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make? It makes a lot of difference. Continuing where I left off, everyone should have an interest in knowing if the earth is flat or not. Why? To simply know about where we live on this planet – or, should I say “plane” – and the shape of our earth is important to know. For those who don’t care – and I have met one who said that – it would be like saying, “I don’t want to know where Europe is. I don’t want to know where Asia is. I could care less to know where Australia is.” Only an ignorant person would say that. Sadly, there are many high school student who are ignorant of basic geography; you have probably seen video clips of people on the street asked where Iran is and they point to some place in Europe. I even met a woman who works in her own travel agency and thought that Ecuador didn’t exist! I said it did and she didn’t believe me but had to call another person on the phone to confirm this! I laughed, I couldn’t believe some people were so ignorant – especially someone who works in their own travel agency!

I’m not saying it will change your day to day life – it will remain the same. HOWEVER, it should start you to question other things that we are told that we put blind faith in. We should take time out and read what other lies we have been told as you life may depend on it. In fact, there are many people who suffer physically by being ignorant, or, as I say, “On purpose stupid.” Now, this is getting off the track a bit but it is related to cover ups like the flat earth, and that is the lies that we are told about how to keep healthy and how to get well if we are sick. If you believe in what the medical profession tells you, then you’ve been lied to.

Assuming that you have learned about the flat earth and that something this big had been successfully covered up since the time of Copernicus, it only stands to reason that there are other lies told us. Assuming you just know about the flat earth, here is something to get you onto the next cover up and that is the medical lies that have been told us. Without getting into detail here, as I could write a book on it, just do your research. You can go to Google or YouTube and search topics such as:

vaccines exposed

vaccine fraud

cancer cure

diabetes remedy

cancer racket

juicing for your health

Or, go to sites such as naturalnews.com or mercola.com These two site are the largest alternative health sites in the world and they have literally thousands of articles on everything you can think of. They also have videos with interviews with doctors who have exposed the racket that is going inside the medical establishment. Anyhow, with the search words given above you should have an idea of what to type in. You’ll be surprised at what you come up with. Of course, there will the the sites that are put up the the FDA, CDC, and medical boards to give you “their side” but make sure you read what others have to say, too.

Like I said earlier, your life can literally depend on whether you keep yourself willingly stupid or not. And once you learn the truth about what the medial profession is doing to us, just remember this: Your journey started with the knowledge of the flat earth.

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Flat Earth: What Difference Does It Make?

Believe it or not, there are some people who say, “How is this Flat Earth stuff leading anyone closer to the Lord? This is not important. The whole world is going to hell and you’re talking about this?”

The fact is, I have found that talking about the flat earth DOES lead people to the Lord. How is that? If that person is an evolutionism, they think that we got here as a result of billions of years of evolution. Once they know about the flat earth, they realise that their former belief is full of bull. The person who made the above statement (and that goes for others, too) either hasn’t read and watched the material on the flat earth or they are not very smart (and maybe that is why they would believe in such nonsense as evolution).

Assuming you know about the flat earth, you will know that we are the only ones “out there.” we are the only planet period, and aside from the earth, there is Heaven. Even if you are still not convinced that there is Heaven above us, you would know that with the earth being the only plane (planet) out there, that means we could NOT have gotten here by chance, by evolving billions of years. So, your conclusion will have to be that there is a Creator God. This is what a friend of mine, said. In fact, he came to that conclusion himself, I didn’t have to tell him.

For those who have even a little interest in life around him/her they will search the Bible to see what it says about the stationary earth. From there, IF they have any curiosity at all, they will ask themselves, “What else has the government lied to us about? What else is in the Bible that we have not been told? Perhaps I should READ the Bible and find out.”

Yes, Virginia, there are other lies the government/educational/media has lied to you about; there are lies and omissions that your preacher didn’t tell you. With the flat earth knowledge, you have just begun your journey in uncovering conspiracies and cover ups. Would you like to know more? Then come back to this site to learn more and continue to do your research, too. As there is a lot more to know what is really going one – won’t you join me?

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