Supposed Curvature of Earth Never Factored In, Part 1

Curvature never factored in.

Curvature never factored in.

Surveyors, engineers and architects are never required to factor the supposed curvature of the Earth into their projects, providing another proof the world is a plane, not a planet. Canals and railways, for example, are always cut and laid horizontally, often over hundreds of miles, without any allowance for curvature.

One surveyor, Mr. T. Westwood, wrote into the January, 1896 “Earth Review” magazine stating that, “In leveling, I work from Ordinance marks, or canal levels, to get the height above sea level. The puzzle to me used to be, that over several miles each level was and is treated throughout its whole length as the same level from end to end; not the least allowance being made for curvature. One of the civil engineers in this district, after some amount of argument on each side as to the reason why no allowance for curvature was made, said he did not believe anybody would know the shape of the earth in this life.”

Another Surveyor and Engineer of thirty years wrote to the Birmingham Weekly Mercury, Feb. 15th, 1890 stating, “I am thoroughly acquainted with the theory and practice of civil engineering. However bigoted some of our professors may be in the theory of surveying according to the prescribed rules, yet it is well known amongst us that such theoretical measurements are INCAPABLE OF ANY PRACTICAL ILLUSTRATION. All our locomotives are designed to run on what may be regarded as TRUE LEVELS or FLATS. There are, of course, partial inclines or gradients here and there, but they are always accurately defined and must be carefully traversed. But anything approaching to eight inches in the mile, increasing as the square of the distance, COULD NOT BE WORKED BY ANY ENGINE THAT WAS EVER YET CONSTRUCTED. Taking one station with another all over England and Scotland, it may be stated that all the platforms are ON THE SAME RELATIVE LEVEL. The distance between Eastern and Western coasts of England may be set down as 300 miles. If the prescribed curvature was indeed as represented, the central stations at Rugby or Warwick ought to be close upon three miles higher than a chord drawn from the two extremities. If such was the case there is not a driver or stoker within the Kingdom that would be found to take charge of the train. We can only laugh at those of your readers who seriously give us credit for such venturesome exploits, as running trains round spherical curves. Horizontal curves on levels are dangerous enough, vertical curves would be a thousand times worse, and with our rolling stock constructed as at present physically impossible.”

Engineer, W. Winckler, wrote into the Earth Review October 1893 regarding the Earth’s supposed curvature, stating, “As an engineer of many years standing, I saw that this absurd allowance is only permitted in school books. No engineer would dream of allowing anything of the kind. I have projected many miles of railways and many more of canals and the allowance has not even been thought of, much less allowed for. This allowance for curvature means this – that it is 8” for the first mile of a canal, and increasing at the ratio by the square of the distance in miles; thus a small navigable canal for boats, say 30 miles long, will have, by the above rule an allowance for curvature of 600 feet. Think of that and then please credit engineers as not being quite such fools. Nothing of the sort is allowed. We no more think of allowing 600 feet for a line of 30 miles of railway or canal, than of wasting our time trying to square the circle”

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Major Christian Group Support Old Earth

Recently there was an article about the 700 Club and Pat Robertson. He says that those who support a young earth make Christian look foolish. He says that it will not win people to Christ.

This is the problem with many people who call themselves Christians. Many of them may be right on target on some issues but they are way off on others. Of course, with the 700 Club, they are off target on may issues, such as with Jews being God’s Chosen people and that God’s laws have been done away with.

With what Robertson has said it makes me thing that he is part of the New World Order. After all, by believing in a universe that is 13 billion years old – or whatever – makes people believe that we evolved. The only difference is that God started the process, verses it done by accident. Naturally, these people will never believe in a flat earth if the believe in an earth that is billions of years old.

For those who can understand the flat earth will no longer believe that the earth is billions of years old, as they would not be able to explain how completion got here so fast. In other words, once people understand that there is done or firmament, as the Bible tells it, that this is needed in order to hold our atmosphere, they will not that we could not have ‘evolved’ to reach this condition.

I could never understand how people could believe in an earth that is billions of years old, while claiming to be a Christian, too. This is all the more reason to introduce people to the flat earth concept, as it will expose the lies that are being taught in the churches today.

What are you doing to spread the flat earth truth, and, thus, Bible truth? I hope you found a way to get the flat earth news out there.

God bless.

 

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Major Flat Earth Chat Room Taken Off Line

Flat Earth Chat Room

I recently found that a large flat earth chat room was taken offline. This was run by Eric Dubay and the name of his site was International Flat Earth Research Society. He had about 2,000 subscribers as well as thousands of guests. So far, I have not found the reason why this was taken down by Proboards.net. When you go to his former site, you will be directed to a page that says it was in violation of section 25a. Now, what that means, I don’t know. If there are any Readers out there that do the know the reason, kindly respond to this Post. Thank you.

I have my suspicions of why Dubay – who is a not a Christian by the way – was taken down. He had a section on his chat room site that talked about conspiracies of various kinds. On of them was on Hitler and how he was right (which is a long story). This, I believe would peeve ‘the powers that be’ more than the flat earth. Probably someone said that this ‘was hate’ and claimed ‘anti-Semitism’ or some such nonsense.

We all know that the major news media is controlled and they don’t like any discussion on government conspiracies of any kind. Though, there are some that they do tolerate, there are others that can put you in prison in some counties. One such example is in Germany. Denying that six millions Jews were killed will land you in prison. This is the same in Austria, France and perhaps other countries.

Back to the main point of this article. What Eric failed to do was to ask for people to send them their regular email address. On the forum, when you are an Administrator, you can just send them messages within the forum. Another mistake he probably made is, that he did not copy on to his computer all the Posts – many of which had valuable information and insights.

Dubay has set up another forum but it had only about 49 member (when I looked). So, it’s down quite a bit from his previous one.

Eric Dubay was hostile to Christians, and that is one reason why I started Christian Flat Earth Ministry. Now it our chance to take the lead in the flat earth debate. While there are many Christian flat earthers, it seems that the leaders in the flat earth movement are agnostic, have some eastern belief of no belief at all.

Flat earth is about Creation and it’s about what the Bible says. I can not see how you can divorce Christ from this research but somehow keep God in! It’s really strange how some flat earthers will admit that there is a Creator and even call him God, but they take Christ out of the picture. In fact, I’ve seen Dubay and others who are not Christian have biblical references to the stationary flat earth but ignore the rest of the message of the Bible. The fact is, introducing people to the true story of creation, gives us an opportunity to tell others of the other Bible stories, including the saving power of Jesus Christ.

 

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Russians Building Nuclear Engine to Take Man to Mars in 45 Days

Here is another indication that Russia is on the heliocentric conspiracy – claiming that they are building an engine that will take man to Mars. They might well be building a nuclear engine but it will not take them to space – and they know it.

Have you ever wondered why Russia never attempted to go to the moon? Because they knew that it was a fake from the beginning but they were smart enough not to waste money on such a project.

Russia’s nuclear agency, Rosatom, the General Director Sergei Kirienko said the nuclear engine will allow a spaceship to reach Mars in only 45 days.

Now, Russia has money to waste, while under Communism (when the American ‘moon landings’ were occurring) they didn’t have the money. You can be sure that in the years to come that IF you hear of a Mars mission, you can be sure that it will be staged. So, IF this does come out, and there if filming of ‘the landing’ like on the moon, you will be able to spot irregularities. Of course, this news could fall into the dustbin of history and you will not hear of any Mars mission.

Resourse: sputniknews.com

 

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Explaining the Seasons

Question: How do you explain Time zones, Different Seasons, Changing Star constellations, Gravity and the Tides?

Answer: This video addresses all of these questions and far more in a response video to Zachary K. Hubbard’s questions.

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Cassini Satellite Helps Find 9th Planet

Calla Cofield

SPACE.com

We are told that scientists believe there could be ‘planet 9’ just found. Again, this is another created news story to keep the money coming in.

Hunt for 9th planet 2In the Yahoo News article I found there is a picture of the satellite, Cassini near Enceladus, which is ‘a moon of Saturn.’ The caption under the picture is: Cassini at Enceladus

There is no mention at all in the article that this is a Photoshop type picture. Not only is it a computer generated picture but it’s one that is highly imaginative; they don’t even try to be real! Think about it, how can two planets be so close to each other and one not collied into the other? Even the astronomers will see the absurdity of this picture (two planets very close to each other) . So, how can this small body get so close to a largeer one and not be completely drawn in and thus crash?

Hunt for 9th planetSee what other fake features you see in the  picture.

I looked up Enceladus in Wikipedia and it says that the surface is -350 F (or there about). How can any man-made object, such as Cassini, operate? The whole satellite would be brittle and cease to function.

Later in this article we are told of how, ‘“It captures breathtaking images of Saturn, makes death-defying dives toward its moons and measures the precise location of Saturn at various times during its orbits around the sun.”

It sounds like James Bond driving in his car on wild street chase!

Clear pictures sent back to earth

Think about that for a minute – how can a satellite that is billions of miles away from us send us beautiful clear pictures and other data to us? Heck, look at the poor quality we get from a Skype call when we are only 100 miles away! Not to criticise Skype, but the fact is, we know how communication is here despite all the technology we have. We have: cable, microwave towers and other relay devices. Yet, we are to believe that something that is billions of miles away can generate a signal, send it through space, through the extreme heat and cold, with no relay towers to boost the signal, and be received here showing, among other things, a clear picture of whatever it takes? Nonsense!

Just think of this when you talk to someone about the flat earth and they come back with an objection about pictures sent by satellites billions of miles away. Just tell them, in a kind, understanding tone, about the impossibility of this happening. Usually, if they are think at all on the subject they’ll realise the truth. Of course, they could be in denial so they don’t have to deal with it. But otherwise, I’m sure you see of the impossibility of sending signals from space.

Read more here.

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Degrees of Sight On A Flat Earth

all-horizons-flat-3Globe earthers will often quip that ‘if the earth were flat, then we could see all over it!’ but this is, of course, ignorant and inaccurate. If you stand on the beach, a plain or prairie, you will find the horizon extends about three to six miles around you – depending on the weather and your eyesight. The range of the human eye, our field of vision is from 110 to 1 degree, and the smallest angle under which an object can still be seen is 1/60 of 1 degree, so that when an object is 3000 times its own diameter away from an observer, it will cease to be visible. So, for example, the farthest distance at which one can see a 1 inch diameter penny, is 3000 inches, or 250 feet. Therefore, if a ship’s hull is 10 feet above the water, it will disappear from the unaided eye at 3,000 times 10 feet, or 6 miles. This has nothing to do with the supposed ‘convexity’ or ‘curvature’ of the earth and everything to do with the common Law of Perspective.

The horizon of an observer is distant or near according to the greatness or otherwise of his elevation above the surface of the supposed globe. If he stands 24 feet above sea level, he is said to be in the centre of a circle, which bounds his vision, the radius of which in any direction, on a clear day, is six miles. A local gentleman tells me that he has watched a boat-race in New Zealand, seeing the boats all the way out and home, the distance being 9 miles from where he was standing on the beach. I have seen the hull of a steamer with the naked eye at an elevation of not more than 24 feet, as a distance of 12 miles, and in taking observations along the South African coast, have sometimes had an horizon of at least 20 miles at an elevation of 20 feet only.

The distance of the horizon, or vanishing point, where the sky appears to touch the earth and sea, is determined, largely by the weather, and when that is clear, by the power of our visioin. This is proved by the fact that the telescope will increase the distance of the horizon very greatly, and bring objects into view which are entirely beyond the range of vision of the unaided eye. But, as no telescope can pierce a segment of water, the legitimate conclusion we are forced to arrive at, is that the surface of water is level, and that, therefore, the shape of the world cannot be globular, and on such a flat or level surface, the greater the elevation of the observer, the longer will his range of vision be, and thus the father he can see. Thomas Winship, “Zetetic Cosmogeny

On the shore near Waterloo, a few miles to the north of Liverpool, a good telescope was fixed, at an elevation of 6 feet above the water. It was directed to a large seamer, just leaving the River Mersey, and sailing out to Dublin.

Gradually the mast-head of the receding vessel came nearer to the horizon, until, at length, after more than four hours had elapsed, it disappeared. The ordinary rate of sailing of the Dublin steamers was fully eight miles an hour; so that the vessel would be, at least, thirty-two miles distant when the mast-head came to the horizon. This 6 feet of elevation of the telescope would require three miles to be deducted for convexity, which would leave 29 miles, the square of which, multiplied by 8 inches, gives 560 feet; deducting 80 feet for the height of the main-mast, and we find that, according to the doctrine of rotundity, the mast-head of the outward bound steamer should have been 480 feet below the horizon.

Many other experiments of this kind have been made upon sea-going steamers, and always with results entirely incompatible with the theory that the earth is a globe. Dr. Samuel Rowbotham, ‘Zetetic Astronomy, Earht Not a Globe!’

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Flat Earth: Do We Have Evidence of More Land

Here is a video for your consideration. Since the earth is flat, there has to be more land in the extreme south of earth (Antarctica). Here is a video for your consideration. Notice that this land is free of ice and snow except in the higher elevations. So, where would it be this warm when all around is snow 12 months of the year?

We know that there is more ocean in the southern hemisphere but you can’t photograph that and say, “Here is new ocean!” It doesn’t make sense but with land you can do this. What you can do with the ocean – to prove that there is more – is to sail in a ship. For example, we are given the distance between the southern continents, so, if you have a sea-worthy yacht, see if the journey takes longer than what it should. If you find out that it does, it tells us that the earth is much larger than what it is. If you are rich and have your own jet, fly the distance from New Zealand to South America – directly. But before you do, you better have plans to be sure you can land on some island on the way. The reason for this is, that if you gage the fuel with what you are told the distance is, you’ll come up, perhaps, thousands of miles short.

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Moon Name Change

Moon

Do you know that some people want the name of the moon changed? This is news I found today (Feb. 27) on the internet. Some people claim that the name of the moon is so common that they want a name change; changed to something ‘cool’ like the name of the moons of other planets. It goes on to say that calling the moon, moon, is like have the name of your dog, dog, or a person, person.

Now, these people are not Christian or they don’t know their Bible. First, who created everything? God did. So, he gets to name what we live on today. He called it Earth. The great light, he called, the Sun, and what we see at night that shines light, is called the Moon.

But have you noticed that all the other planets, including many stars have names that come from pagan religions? All the ‘planets in our solar system’ have names of Roman deities. Since much of society have a non-Christian slant or are controlled by non-Christians, it only makes sense that these modern-day pagans would want to change the name of the moon. What is next?

I would not be surprised that these very same people will want to change the name of the Sun. After all, this is a ‘common’ name, too; all stars are really suns, so let’s call it something ‘cool’!

God name the sun, the Sun; the same with our ‘planet’ he called Earth. After all, Adam was not around to name things – which he did in the Garden. As pagan thinking goes, why not change the names of what God called things?

I did a search in the Bible (KJV) to find the verses that have the word ‘moon’ in it and there are over 50 verses. Some of them are below…

Gen_37:9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Deu_4:19 And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.

Deu_17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;

Deu_33:14 And for the precious fruits brought forth by the sun, and for the precious things put forth by the moon,

Jos_10:12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

Jos_10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

In Genesis God called the moon ‘the lesser light’ but you can be sure that the name came from him.

(Gen 1:16) And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

(Gen 1:17) And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

(Gen 1:18) And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

(Gen 1:19) And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

I don’t know why centuries ago, when Christianity was just starting, that other names were not given to the planets in stead of these stupid pagan deity names. Of course, as flat earthers, we know that there is no ‘solar system’ as such, and that there are no planets, as such, either. What we call planets are nothing more than lights but they move more and they appear closer to the earth.

If you notice in the book of Joshua, in the verses above, we read that the Moon did not move and the Sun did not move during the great battle that took place back then. This plainly tells us that it is the moon and sun that does the moving and not the Earth. And, by implication, that they have to be relatively close to the Earth and that the they are much smaller in size than what they are.

Let’s keep calling the Earth, Sun and Moon by their proper names and not something else.

 

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New Land Discovered in Flat Earth

With the flat earth model, there should be more land discovered – as well as more ocean. Knowing the flat earth model, you know that the distance between the southern contents are much further apart. You also know that the Antarctica has much more cost land, which, implies, more land.

So, is there more land, and how does it look like?

In the near future post, I will present some photos of this land. Yes, real photos and it’s different than what you would expect. Would you like to take a journey with me to find the Truth? Then, come along (watch this website) and find out more of this great Earth we live on.

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