Mike Adams: Coronavirus and Flat Earther Talk, Part 2
In the audio below, Mike Adams talk about the Coronavirus being real and that those who believe it’s a hoax are like the flat earthers. Then, about 9 minutes in, why he would not debate us.
Some of his arguments are:
there has to be an agreement on some basics, like gravity
without agreements on basics, you can’t have a conversation
that we have an alternative view of physics
we have to agree on mental constructs
…with this, there is no bases for a conversation.
Now, have you ever heard of anything so absurd? Adams sounds intelligent, but when he talks on some subjects, it’s really, really stupid. I never heard of such a cop-out, such a lame excuse of not having a conversation with flat Earth people! Have you?
If you haven’t listened to the audio, please do so now.
(Debating flat earthers, starts at about 9 minutes.)
Do you see what I mean?
He says, basically, if you don’t believe in gravity, we can’t have a discussion. This is the whole point – that gravity is not real (with all its magical qualities)! The whole purpose of any conversation where there is a disagreement is, that there is a DISAGREEMENT; in this case of gravity.
Part of a flat Earth discussion is about gravity not existing, not being able to keep water on a ball, etc., but its buoyancy and density that does it. Has Adams, who claims to be a “scientist,” know about this? Obviously not, so he should not call himself a scientist.
Concerning we have “an alternative view of physics” – we do not! It’s academia that says, for example, “water seeks its own level.” We agree that – no problem. But Adams and mainstream “science” changes its tune when it suits them when it comes to the flat stationary Earth. They do it when it comes to why we can’t feel the wind; why we don’t feel movement; why two different atmospheres can exist side-by-side without a containment, etc.
Then Adams brings up the example of seeing an astrological sign being different in the southern hemisphere than in the north; his claim being that it’s because we are on a globe. All he can do is put a picture on the ceiling, look at it from the top a bit of distance away, then look at it from the bottom and he’d it different. “It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out, but if you are a rocket scientist, you won’t be able to figure it out!” TM by CFEM
The irony is IF we live on a globe we would NOT be able to see the same starts at all in the South as we do in the North.
“Make sure what you believe is consistent with the laws of reality, otherwise you’ll have a bad day”, according to Adams says about flat earthers, “they have to have alternative physics.” Well, this is what the whole flat Earth debate is about: talking about physics. But this, he doesn’t want to discuss – maybe because he really isn’t a scientist, for scientists AND laypeople know that “water seeks its own level.”
This is the lamest excuse I’ve heard about not wanting to debate a flat earther but we know it’s a cheap cover-up for not being able to intelligently debate us. Now, there are other areas we can debate globe Earth believers without physics, such as, how come we have seen the same stars for thousands of years? Also, what the Bible says about the Earth (since Adams claims to be a Bible believing Christian). But he will not debate us in those areas, either.
NOTICE: I will more about the virus that is going around on another blog site because another person had information about the real nature of viruses on his WordPress site and they closed him down. He had to create another site as a result. Well, I don’t want this to happen to this site. If this other blog is taken down, no big deal. But give me time to create it.
Therefore, I will notify you about the link. In the meantime, I will continue with Part 2 here (see the next post), as the next article will be talking about Mike Adams and flat earthers.
Anytime there is an international event that effects millions of people, like this Coronavirus virus, I like to post comments about it. With all this talk about the Coronavirus here is something we should keep in mind and pray, using the word of
Assuming you have read chapter 91 of Psalms, I hope you see how this relates to today and what the world is going through. You should have hope and assurance that all will be safe for Christians. This does not mean we will not go through trying times, but we have the promise and reward for all who believe in Christ.
In another light on this Coronavirus virus, here is something to think about. This is just my thoughts but I would not be surprised if the following is true – that we are being lied to about Coronavirus in a bigger way.
Let’s start off by what we can all agree on – that is:
the government lies to us
the media lies to us
the pharmaceutical companies lie to us
there are false flag events
there are events that do happen but the narrative is completely different
What I’m saying is, that with the above in mind, I would not be surprised that we are being lied to about the Coronavirus. I don’t mean just what the Communist Chinese tell its people – that is a given, but something more.
Let’s take a look at more facts – that most of us would agree on:
each year in the US about 57,000 people die of the flu
worldwide people who die of the flu is 646,000
in the US, there are about 500,000 people who die of cancer
the people who die of all diseases in the US is 2.8 million
worldwide, the people who die of all diseases is 56.9 million
What am I saying?
What I am saying is, if you look at the figures of the number of people who died of the Coronavirus (as of 8 March, 2020), worldwide, it’s about 3,600. What is this compared with just one disease and one nation? Very, very small. Those who died of the flu in the US, as of last year, is about 57,000.
Now, this 3,000 plus figure for China, this is from a nation of about 1.3 billion people over two month period! I think that if you took the people who fell down on their front steps in China during the same time, the number would be just as high. Yet, we don’t hear anything about it. Why? Because nothing is written about it.
The world ignores the figures of millions who die each year from cancer; from heart disease. They know that millions die and they accept it. But it’s not called a pandemic, epidemic, or anything else. Yet, when you look at the extremely low figure of those who died from the Coronavirus, which is much lower, the people are frightened to death!
Now, if you took away all the media hype; of the people told they have to wear face masks; of the medical workers told to dress in hazmat suits, you’ll have a normal city day in Wuhan or any other city. People will not even notice it. There would be no panics; people would go about their work as normal. But BECAUSE the media and government has been telling us it’s a pandemic, and the government ordering the people to do what they are doing, people really think that the world is going to end.
This is not like the Black Plague that really killed millions of people but something that gives flu like symptoms and it seems like the only people who are actually dying are those who are already sick; already have a weakened immune system. Not the others.
You might think why this would be done, why the lies. Well, this will take another article to write about but I’m sure that if you give it some thought, you can connect the dots.
In the meantime, we have to follow what we are told. True, we will still be effected by the limited about of food that we have in storage and not being able to go to work. But to think that the world will come to an end because of the Coronavirus, I don’t think so.
Just keep Psalms 91 in mind in your preparation.
Side Note: What is a virus anyway? Do you know that it’s not a living organism? Even the dictionary tells you that, but we are told of “dangerous viruses”. This would take another article to explain.
Here is a video by someone who claims that it only takes as little as 10 hours to fly from Argentina to New Zealand. He says that because the flight is so short, it would be impossible on a flat Earth, as it would take much longer. But on a globe Earth, in which he believes, this short time makes sense. Thus, this is his example of “disproving” a flat Earth.
So, how do flat earthers reply?
Simple. He is lying. To prove it, just try to book a flight from Auckland, New Zealand to Buenos Aires, Argentina and look at where you go; the stops you make; and the time.
There is a co-worker, who comes from England, that I know, who told me of his flight from England to New Zealand and it took him 18 hours. That’s right – 18 hours! This is “half way round the world” – the same words this guy used in the video – though from another country. The time it took was much longer than his supposed flight.
We know that the media and just about everyone else lies, so it’s not surprising that a person would lie, too. But aside from that, here is something else you can use to refute arguments like this – without saying to the person that he is lying. Just bring up other facts.
Facts that are ignored are many and include:
the spinning earth and planes trying to land on it
water can not say on an uneven surface
how we can see further than it is possible IF we live on a ball
how we don’t feel 66,000 mph winds (when we go around the Sun)
…plus many more topics that I will not include here because of time.
If you just focus on water and say that it’s impossible for water to stay on a ball; that the Earth has to be flat because of this is, enough to prove that the Earth is flat. This alone means that everything else has to conform to a flat Earth, which includes flying from one country in the southern hemisphere to another.
Finally, there is another video where someone showed that no matter what flight he tried to book (going from Chile to South Africa), it led to him having to fly north before he flies south again to his destination. I don’t know the link to this and other videos, but it’s out there somewhere.
The guy who made the above video admitted that he lost GPS contact should tell him something. It should tell him that there are no satellites out there to allow for signals anywhere on Earth – as satellites are supposed to do.
What’s his answer to that?
None.
That’s how you answer something that you can’t – you ignore it!
Finally, this guy got a domain name that is deliberately misleading calling it: flat earth facts.com when it should be, globe earth lies.com
Summary: In short, people who try to debunk the flat Earth lie or twist something in their single argument, ignore all the other facts about a flat Earth.
For some people, not matter how much proof you offer, they still will not believe. But for those who are awake to reality, here is a video to consider.
In 1965, Australian TV interviewed a scientist that said the Moon is made of Plasma! This makes sense as God said that the Moon has its own light source.
It’s not the science confirms the Bible but the Bible confirms science – if that science is true.
The Illuminati, Jews, or whomever you believe are in control have a clever way of covering up the flat earth truth. Here is a short video of William Cooper (deceased Sept. 2001) of how he used to believe in aliens and why he doesn’t now.
This video has been deleted by YouTube. We know the reason why, don’t we?
William Cooper was once in naval intelligence and it was then that he had witnessed a UFO, or so he thought. Since then he had spoken at UFO conferences about his experience. It wasn’t until years later that he discovered the truth – that UFO don’t exist. (Let me clarify this, anything can be a UFO until it’s identified. Planes can be a UFO until they are identified as a plane. So, in this context, when I use the term “UFO” we are talking about space ships from other planets.)
Now, this may sound as a contradiction but just read a bit more…
I think that NASA and others had a dilemma years ago, and they came up with a plan on how to fool the people. Their real aim is to get the public to believe that there are billions of planets out there; that there are some that might contain intelligent life, and that we can travel to other planets. They thought (my theory, anyhow) that most people will not believe in aliens, so the best way to get most of them TO believe in aliens is to deny they exist.
Now, this may seem counter-intuitive but it’ll work if the plans are carried out right. What you do is:
1 – Outright deny they exist
2 – Allow some slipping of videos in the public domain that shows something flying by, etc. Allow other “slip-ups” such as the face on Mars. But still deny aliens exist.
3 – Let other talk about Abductions, Contacts, etc. Let a few of your selected people create popular websites on the extra-terrestrial/paranormal theme, etc.
4 – Allow main-stream media cover UFO stories as a “matter-of-fact” articles so people who only believe what main-stream media says can start thinking, “Maybe UFOs are real.” No more critising believers as they did in the past.
5 – Allow UFO documents held by the government come forth through “The Freedom of Information Act.” These documents will point out that UFO do exist (though they really don’t).
6 – Finally, have various government agencies, such as NASA, naval intelligence, FBI, etc. finally admit that we have been visited by others; there is life on other planets, etc. Thus, mission complete.
What Do I Mean By All of This?
Again, my theory is, that if this plan is followed, it’s long in planning – even over several generations – the majority of people will believe in something to be a total lie by FIRST DENYING it exists, then admitting it does exist.
To explain in more detail, one would deny such live outside out planet exists but let pressure build up, make some “controlled slip-ups” to get people to question what the government is doing. Make phoney reports over the years that can be shown later to future generations. This way the public would think this is all genuine “After all, they are old documents and reports filed years ago, so this must be real.” This also gives the illusion that “the people are in control.”
Then, when NASA, for example, says that, “UFOs are real. Sorry, we covered it up as we thought you couldn’t take truth back then, but now we feel you need to know; it’s a matter of national emergency.” What purpose does this serve to say all this? I think it severs several agendas, such as:
Justification of NASA
Justification of huge defense spending
Bringing in a One World Government (ZOG)
International Banking
Taxing the people
Controlling the people
Covering up the fact that the earth is flat, with a dome, and that planets don’t exist as we know them
Keeping people from believing in the Bible (which really is the number one thing that the rulers really want)
NASA and others realize that the people will soon wake up – after all it’s hard to keep faking space fligths, man-made satellites, pictures of other planets, landing on the moon, etc. They realize that people will wake up – as they are doing now. If too many wake up and pressure is put on the government that means that their multi-billion dollar budget they get each year from Congress will dry up immediately. The extremely wealthy within NASA don’t like this, so they have to keep the con game going, and by introducing the “alien factor” this will do it.
Once People Accept the Belief in Aliens
Once the people accept the belief in aliens – and it will look genuine because the government “finally admits” that it’s true – then the money will keep pouring in. After all, we now have to be protected by aliens. That means 100’s of billions for defence, black ops projects, NASA, etc.
The bankers love this as this is how they make their money – through loans and interest on it.
“We must all pull together, we can’t be divided. The only way to fight this alien presence is by a One World Government.”
With increased spending, there are more taxes, with more taxes, that means less money for you, with less money for you means CONTROL.
With aliens from other planets, that means there must be other global planets and their star systems. This means that earth is a globe, too, and there there is no dome to prevent aliens from entering.
With the re-enforced belief that we are just one planet out of billions, people will remain agnostic, atheist or a member of some cult religion. These critics will continue to say, “How can you believe in the Bible when it says, ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes on Him shall not die but have ever-lasting life.’ Then what about all the other planets. If God has only one son, how can He send His son to other planets that have sin (surely their must be other planets with sin out of billions!). How do you explain this?”
This is what non-Christians will say and what will Christians answer? How can we be significant and special with God when there could be billions of other inhabitable planets out there?
Keeping the People From the Bible
The whole key, the real key to all this lie about the true nature of the earth is to keep the people from the Bible. Now, this may sound like I’m getting off the subject but I’m not. If the people are kept from believing in the Bible as the literal word of God – by whatever method that works – this means that the people will not look to the Bible for answers to everyday problems. The answers to problems like:
Health
Happiness
Prosperity
Freedom
People will be looking to other man-made philosophies and modern-day New Age gurus for answers. They are turning to people like: Gregg Braden, David Icke, Jordon Maxwell, Deli Lama, etc.
Money is on most people’s minds and by not turning to the Bible – people will not know that God condemns usury/interest. It is usury or interests (really one and the same) that is destroying economies like Greece, Spain, and indeed, the rest of the world. People who don’t believe in the Bible will not read the solution; when nations get themselves into debt like this (through unbiblical living) that such debt should be cancelled. That includes private, corporate and government.
One way to get people to turn to the Bible is through the flat earth truth. If you are familiar with the history of the flat earth, you’ll know that those of the late 19th and early 20th Century were Bible believes – you can read some of their booklets and pamphlets on this site.
In short, this is what I believe is going on with the “disclosure of aliens” and how it relates to the flat earth.
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I have a theory about this Corona Virus, it’s only a theory but one that makes sense. Let’s take a look at the facts first:
There is a virus going around that, is centred in Wohun, China
There is an outbreak in Italy now
There was an outbreak on the Diamond Princess Cruise Line in Japan
Now, hold this thought and let’s examine some other things. The UN has what is known as Agenda 21, where they admit that they want to reduce the world’s population. You have the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who is funding vaccine research. We all know how the Elite is saying that there are too many people in the world and the population needs to be reduced. There is also the Georgia Guide Stone (in the US) where it states that the world’s population needs to be reduced by several billion. (Yes, I know this is just a monument but it’s there anyway.)
Now, the problem is for all the Edomites who want to do this, is to find a way to reduce the population without it being obvious; without the people waking up and going after the people responsible.
They have thought of:
wars famine biological weapons
Wars: There is the problem of who to fight and the populations involved would be too small to reduce the population down to 500 million or 1 billion. So, this is not a good option.
Famine: This doesn’t seem to work. It might work on some African nations but other nations have enough good soil and climate to grow their own food. This is too slow and it won’t reduce the numbers enough.
Biological weapons: While there are biological weapons and they have been unleashed in the past, such as the Swine Flu, the SAAR Flu, the Bird Flu, they don’t seem to be working. There seems to to be a limit to what it can do, as recent history has shown.
So, I’m sure the antichrists have been thinking what they can do to kill their most hated enemy, the Christians, along with the rest of the population. Hold this thought.
Enter 5-G
We know that the world’s leading nations are pushing 5-G. We are told that this will speed your internet connection, make video gaming smother, and thus get the support of the people. Now, do you really think that the communication’s industry is going to all the expense for computer geeks?; for people who are glued to their mobile phones? I don’t think so.
We also know that 5-G is a militarised weapon, the military has admitted it. We also know that such frequency causes cancer and other health issues that are fatal.
If you go to the this video, you’ll find out that 5-G effects oxygen molecules, and this effects our breathing and ability to absorb oxygen into our blood. Check out this link to see the video.
There have been a report, one of many, where parents are taking a school districts to court for having a 5-G tower right on school grounds. The reason being is, that about 5 children have come down with cancer.
With 5-G, people are waking up. And if they are not waking up, when they see several people coming down with cancer within a short time a 5-G tower went up in their neighbourhood, they get mad, they want the local government to get it out of their neighbourhood. So, using 5-G towers are not a good way of murdering billions of people.
Now, if you watch the above video, cancer is not the only thing that 5-G can do. It affects the absorption of oxygen. What does this cause? Upper repository problems, shortness of breath, a dry cough, fatigue and sudden death. In other words, the same symptoms as those with the Corona Virus. We are told that people who have this virus have pneumonia. Well, pneumonia shows fluid in the lungs; there is fluid coughed up. But with Corona Virus it’s dry; their lungs are dry. Therefore, it’s not pneumonia.
So, when you hear about people dying of cancer from 5-G (from the alternative media), you don’t hear about people dying from upper repository disease. After all, this is pretty well accepted as common. Last year approximately 57,000 died of the common flu in the US alone. So, we are at the mercy of what the coroner’s office say, of what a person died of. If that person already has heart disease, it would most probably be put down on his death certificate that he died of heart complications. In short, deaths can be covered up from 5-G before this Corona Virus came on the scene.
Other Thoughts
We really don’t know how many 5-G towers have gone up. Those that have gone up, we don’t know the times that it’s on and when it’s switched off. Are you monitoring it? I’m not. So, this can be switched on and off whenever “the culling of the herd” needs to be done.
But my theory is, that these Satanists that are in financial power might have said: “What if we have a virus that could be used as a cover up for 5-G?” This would be the perfect crime!
The Corona Virus, if it has any ability of its own or not, really doesn’t matter, as 5-G will do the killing.
In the above video, there is mention that Wuhan city went all out for 5-G for the first time in December, 2019 – the first city in China to do so. That the Diamond Princess Cruise Line was equipped to have super fast internet; that the cities in quarantine in Italy, had recently installed 5-G. But these places conveniently had people who were exposed from the Corona Virus.
The above should make you suspicious. Those who seem to be isolated from the towns and cities, those who were not exposed to any travellers from China could have the regular flu but the media tells us they have the Corona Virus. How are we to know the difference? But, by saying this, it throws a “curve ball” to make us think that there is no relation to the 5-G.
About people who have this Corona Virus that have not been in contact with others, it could be that they were told they have the virus, to make it look like it’s spreading. When, in reality they got too much exposure to 5-G.
Finally, there could be the misdiagnosed people, and people believe what the doctors and nurses tell them. In the meantime, 5-G is still being rolled out.
By having millions of people die in a country when we are TOLD that a deadly virus is going around, it would be a perfect cover up. If there was no “virus” going around people, would be looking for the cause. If there is no virus they would look at other factors, one, of which, would be the new microwave towers that went up, for example. People would rise up in arms. The police and soldiers would rise in arms as their families would be effected, too. The police would see their co-workers dying and will start to listen to the people; they will side with the people. Then, the police, soldiers and other policing agencies could use their weapons and use their data bases to go after the super rich; to go after the CEO’s of these companies and kill them. This is a possibility if 5-G was the only cause. But a virus,, what can the people do?
A virus, whether it be natural or man-made, the super rich feel safe. Even if people knew that it came from a biological warfare lab and that it got out, they know that there is nothing to do about it now but to fight this virus. In the meantime, millions of people are dying.
Again, my theory is, with 5-G being the device used to do the killing, it’s easy for the real world controllers to be told: don’t go to Chicago go the last three days of March, don’t go to the south side Los Angeles March 15, etc. So, they make plans accordingly.
In the meantime, there will be people who die of upper repository disease and told that it was the Corona virus. And when it’s safe to come back, the 5-G towers will be turned off. Certain super rich and their families will know that it’s safe, as it’s not some virus that they might catch but it’s the 5-G towers.
When people see that people are dying all around, they will be told it’s like the Black Plague, and there is nothing to do but pray and keep yourself quarantined. So, there will be no evil people to go after, no microwave towers to knock out with a high powered rifle; we just have to accept what is going around and pray.
Whether the people are informed or not, we are promised by Almighty God, that when the people repent, pray to God, THEN He will hear their prayers and heal their land.
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.2 Chronicles 7:14
“If my people,” means Christians only, because we are called by his name. “Humble themselves” to learn and repent. “Seek my face” is to learn and implement God’s laws, statues and judgements. “Heal their land,” means God will correct what needs to be done. That means, the evil people will have to pay for what they did, as told the book of Revelation.
Prayer is the Christians’ weapon of war!
PS. I did a search on the 5 towns that recently got 5-G, of which one site said, “The 5G trial process starts today in Italy. It will affect 5 Italian cities: the metropolitan area of Milan, Prato, L’Aquila, Bari and Matera.”
Also another site called techblog.comsoc.org said this, “Telecom Italia (TIM) has already deployedpre-standard “5G” in Rome and Turin and recently added Naples. TIM will further extend 5G service to another six Italian cities, including Milan, Bologna, Verona, Florence, Matera, and Bari. That will also include 30 tourist destinations, 50 industrial districts, and 30 specific projects for big businesses, with speeds of up to 2G b/sec.”
Turin and Milan is in Northern Italy, and one of the towns that is quarantined is Collengno. As you can see by the map, this is an outskirts of Turin. This is no accident, as far as I’m concerned. Even if it’s not in this town, the fact is, that people travel after being exposed and then drop dead in some other town.
Another update: I just went to do a Google search on “Italian towns with 5-G”, then searched under maps, like I did before. Guess what? I come up with different countries and Italy. Strange!
This video illustrated how we, as a people, can be hypnotised.
Here is a stage presentation of hypnotism and it shows how a person can be hypnotised into believing a lie. In this case, a girl is told that her name is Bob, though her real name is Mattie.
She swears that her name is Bob and is willing to take a bet that it is. She is handed her school ID and though she is faced with the facts of what her name is including a picture of herself, she refuses to face the facts and insists that her name is Bob.
Our whole life is filled with the story that the world is a globe, that it’s travelling through space at incredible speeds and that there are trillions of other planets out there. The globalist are shown the facts but they still insist that we live on a spinning ball. That is – until the hypnotism is broken! Such is what we, flat Earth believers go through when we talk to globe Earth believers. A person has to break out of their own hypnotism in order to see the truth – just showing the facts does not do it. However showing the facts can, in some cases breaks a person out of their hypnotic state.
While a person can be hypnotised by a hypnotist, so there is mass hypnotism, such as what the media puts out. Now, the ironic thing is, that this man said a few minutes later in the original video that, “…there are people who believe that the earth is flat, though our GPS system is based on a globe earth.” Which it is not, by the way! They are all LAND BASED; mobile phone towers are land based, too. In short, he was given the suggestion that GPS is globe based, which he falls for, to base his belief on.
But that is another story, of which you know about. The sad thing is, that this hypnotist, that is in the video has it completely backward.
Another example of how people can disbelieve reality is, that a person under hypnosis can be made to not see another person; that person would be invisible to her even if he was standing right in front her! Relating this to the flat Earth, you can present proof right in front of someone and they still will not believe it. This reminds me of a verse:
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie: that they might be damned who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.II Thessalonians 2:11-12 KJV
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