The Bible and Geocentrism, part 3

The Earth Systems and Not The Sun System

The Bible and Geocentrism

“And God set them [sun, moon, and stars] in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth….” (Gen. 1:17)

Notice: God SET them…. Now, inside our so-called “solar” system, we have only the sun and the moon (from the verse above). We KNOW the moon moves. Therefore, when God SET IT “in the firmament”, the inescapable meaning is that He set it in motion on the track it follows. When He set THEM in the firmament it is a grammatical imperative that He set the sun and stars in motion ALSO on their tracks just like He set the moon in motion on its track.

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“Then spake Joshua…. Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon, and thou moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies…. So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.” (Joshua 10:12,13)

“MOON” in these verses:

Both Heliocentrists and Geocentrists agree that the moon is moving around the earth. No argument on that. Then we see that the Scripture says that Joshua commanded not only the sun but ALSO THE MOON to stop, and that both obeyed the command. He commanded both of them at the same time in the same breath in the same sentence to stop their motion. He obviously accepted as fact that the moon he was speaking to was a moon that was moving. Since, therefore, he addressed both sun and moon together in his command, it is a grammatical imperative that when he commanded a moving moon to stand still, he was ALSO commanding a moving sun to stand still.

(A similar argument can be made for the movement of the stars from Psalm 8:3 where “…the moon and the stars, which thou hast ordained…” is written. “Ordained”–number 3559 is derived from the Hebrew #5087 which means “to place”. The moon that was placed moves; so, grammatically, would the stars.)

(Are you revisionist creationist leaders SURE you want to insist that Joshua was telling the earth and not the sun to stand still…and that the Holy Spirit of Truth caused the opposite of the Truth to be recorded in God’s Word?? What happened to “God is not the author of confusion….”?!) [I Cor.14:33]

10 Degrees Backwards

“Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees …ten degrees backward. So THE SUN RETURNED ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down….” (Isaiah 38:8)

If something is moved “backward” it must ipso facto have had a forward direction and movement. The shadow moved backward on the sun dial…undeniably the opposite of the way it always moved. The movement of the shadow is inseparable from the movement of the sun in this verse for it says the sun returned. In short, the sun’s movement, not the earth’s, is flatly declared here (as well as in numerous other Scriptures). [See: What If, Sixty-seven References]

One may argue that God really meant that the earth and not the sun is moving in all these Scriptures, that He just used a “language of appearance” or “phenomenological language”, or some such polysyllabic excuse for accepting what “science falsely so-called” says over what the Word of God says. Unfortunately, this hermeneutical slight-of-hand can and does make the Creation days billions of years long [See: Kabbala 2 (p.2)], the Noahic Flood just a local flood, the virgin Mary just “a young girl”, “heaven” a superstitious myth, and on and on. Moreover, this method of handling Scripture actually says that God has lied to us or is so inept with words that He couldn’t communicate a simple Truth about whether it is the earth that goes around the sun or the sun that goes around the earth.

 

Semantics too can be unyielding on this subject. Let’s take a hard look at the pronoun THOU in Joshua 10:12: “Sun, stand THOU still….”

Strong’s Hebrew Concordance #859 confirms what we would expect, namely: “THOU” means “YOU”.

So, semantically, what Joshua said was: “Sun, YOU stand still…and moon, YOU stand still too. Sun, YOU stop over Gibeon and moon, YOU stop over Ajalon.”

Since Ajalon is only five or six miles away from Gibeon, the sun and the moon are, cosmographically speaking, in the same place, i.e., “in the midst of heaven”.

Being in the same place, the moon is blocking out the sun. Joshua’s commands therefore, are ordering both orbs which are at the point of full solar eclipse to move no further.

Eclipses were known and not feared in those days, but–when in response to Joshua’s commands which all heard (v.12)–a moving moon stopped and stayed in front of a moving sun which suddenly stood still “and hasted not to go down about a whole day”, that was another matter! Joshua’s enemies were understandably freaked out of their gourds (in the recent vernacular) and Joshua’s soldiers “avenged themselves….”

Clearly, the designation “YOU” applied by God to a moving sun cannot be and must not be twisted to say: “YOU, Earth, stand still” or “YOU, Time, stand still.” One may want it to say one of those, but the Bible simply does not say either one. (Bible scholars, of course, agreed on the plain language until Newton’s Kabbalist “math” persuaded most of them that man’s science had triumphed over Bible science and that they needed to adjust their interpretation of Scripture accordingly).

Theistic Evolutionists

Now, six-day Creationists are, of course, well aware of the stultifying effect that Theistic Evolutionists have on the Creationist movement. Compromise with God’s Truth is harder to combat than out-and-out resistance, most would agree.

A classic expression of this fact was saved for the very last frames of Hollywood’s first version of Inherit The Wind (about the Scopes “Monkey Trial” in Dayton, Tennessee in July of 1925). After incessant and thinly disguised mockery of Bryan and Bible fundamentalism in general throughout the movie, Darrow (played by Spencer Tracy), alone in the courtroom in the final scene, picks up a copy of the Bible in one hand and a copy of Darwin in the other. He looks slowly back and forth at each book for a minute, thoughtfully weighing this one, then the other one. Then, smiling broadly as if in response to a revelation, he slaps Darwin and the Bible together, gives them a long look and an affirmative head shake, tucks them under his arm and walks out. Though not a word is spoken, his confident, satisfied amalgamation of the two made the point: Put Darwin and the Bible together!

And well could Hollywood revel in that silent visual message…considering the acceptance of evolutionism in the world and (more to the point) in the Christian Churches since the Scopes Trial in 1925! That movie and that scene were merely a dramatization of the ability of the Theistic Evolutionist concept to bring discredit and scorn upon the Bible as the source of Absolute Truth, while at the same time elevating “science” to the role of Truth Giver, from thenceforward equal or superior to the Bible and able to make It bow when the two conflict!

Fellow Creationist, I submit to you that the same scene can be replayed substituting Newton’s Principia for Darwin’s Origin of Species. Together with Copernicus’ and Kepler’s and Galileo’s earlier efforts (and Einstein’s “relativity” and Sagan’s “exobiology” later), man’s books denying the plain geocentrism of Scripture were–as in the Scopes Trial [See: Monkey Trial]–put together with the Bible and “Theistic Copernicanism” was born! All that had to be changed was where the Bible says the sun moves. Thereafter, we were all to understand that It really means the earth moves when It says the sun moves. As with evolution, just change the six-days of Creation to millions of years….Here, just change “sun” to “earth”. Quite simple really. [See: Changing a Biblical Word]

After sun and earth were switched by those trying to accommodate both Bible and what they thought was “science”, the Churches gave in everywhere, just as most have given in to evolutionism since Darwin, and particularly since the Scopes Trial.

The Christian Compromise with Copernicanism established the one and only criterion needed for the success of Satan’s evolution myth in the world first, then the churches. The criterion? Again, quite simple. Plain Scripture can and must be reworked to match the claims of “science falsely so-called”.

As a six-day “evening and morning” Creationist, I, as one of you, submit that there is a way to undermine the idolatrous non-secular science establishment upon which rests the evolution myth you detest. If you are interested in restoring and certifying Bible credibility, prayerfully consider: a) Getting informed about the weakness and vulnerability of the heliocentric model, and: b) Boldly attack that Bible-bashing model and watch the attack spread to evolutionism (and all that is built upon both of those myths)!; c) New evidence proving Copernicanism is the keystone of the Big Bang Paradigm [See: Keystone] and that this evolutionary model of the universe is derived from the Kabbala and thus cannot be financed in the USA under the Constitution can be seen [See: HB 179 Model Pt1, HB 179 Evidence Pt2, HB 179 Addendum Pt3].

If Creationists will stand up for God’s Word on geocentrism and refuse all compromise, they will see that their fears of embarrassment, etc., are not from God (II Tim.1:7). Sir Fred Hoyle and other prominent astronomers and physicists have admitted that the geocentric model is just as good scientifically as the heliocentric model [See: Quotes – Contemporary Scientists]–and it is certainly a whole lot better Scripturally! Indeed, a far more Biblical and scientific model which shrinks the whole universe to less than one light day’s thickness and exposes all of modern cosmology as a pseudo-scientific sham can be seen in a seven part series beginning…. [See: Size-Structure Pt 1]

In short, the world has been systematically indoctrinated to believe that the Bible-bashing earth-moving Copernican model is a scientific fact beyond challenge. The truth of the matter as any can confirm for themselves is that not only the Copernican Model–but the entirety of modern cosmology–is a massive deception and totally vulnerable to exposure as such. Some links that will lead to confirmation of that statement can be tested in the “Kabbala” and “Size and Structure” series [See: Kabbala 1, Size-Structure Pt 1].

After a person finds out that evolutionism is a contra-scientific and utterly goofy explanation for the ineffable complexity of design and function of the entire plant and animal and human life forms, Theistic Evolutionism becomes a cheap copout position that is a lukewarm abomination to God (Rev.3:15,16). Creationists know this is true.

Likewise–after prayerful consideration of the Scriptures and the scientific and logical evidence supporting a non-moving earth–it should be obvious to all Truth-seeking Bible believers that the Theistic Copernicanism Compromise can fare no better in God’s sight than the Theistic Evolution Compromise. Both compromises stink! God’s Absolute Truths cannot be compromised! Period. HE will have no other gods–false science or otherwise–changing His Word and usurping His Glory! That’s the way it is. You can count on it.

Therefore, it is time for Bible Creationists to either broaden their attack to include Copernicanism–and do so with a whoop!–or recant on their belief in Bible inerrancy on the six-day creation. A non-moving, geocentric earth is taught in the Bible just as plainly as the six-day creation [See: Sixty-seven References]). Indeed, as noted, the creation account makes it clear that there was no sun to go around until the fourth day, yet there was light and darkness, evening and morning [See: Genesis I 1-5]!

Let no Christian be counted amongst the various kinds of Sun Worshippers that dot the historical record! “Solar System”, my foot! God created an “Earth System” not a “Sun System”! Copernicanism makes the Sun the center, the source of life. God makes the Earth the center, the springboard of His Master Plan for eternal life. This “unmovable” (Ps.93:1) Earth is the place where His only begotten Son would obediently carry out that Plan. It is the place where “the New Earth” (Is.65:17; 66:22; Rev.21:1) will exist forever right here at the center of the universe after this old earth has “been burned with fervent heat and dissolved” and has “fled away” never to be found again (Is. 65:17; II Pet. 3:10, 12; Rev.20:11).

Time is up for the churches on this one [See: House of God]. By allowing the takeover of the Physical Sciences thru their surrender to Bible-bashing Copernicanism, the churches opened the door to the takeover of the rest of man’s “knowledge” by deceptions disguised as “science” [See: Knowledge Impact]. Now that this takeover extends thru the Natural Sciences, the Social and Behavioral Sciences, the Arts, Mathematics, and Religion, it is time for God’s Judgment on the churches (I Pet.4:17, 18). Jesus “was manifested to destroy the works of the Devil” (I John 3:8). These mega-deceptions are “the works of the Devil”. Truly, “the Devil’s time is short”! (Rev.12:12) “Come out of her [Babylon/confusion], my people…” God says (Rev.18:4). The “Church” is in Babylon/confusion up to its steeple tops!

Creation is the cornerstone of Bible credibility. (You can put that in italics and capitalize it: CREATION IS THE CORNERSTONE OF BIBLE CREDIBILITY.) OK? A non- moving earth and a six-day creation have been tampered with and credibility has all but been destroyed as a result. God’s Judgment begins with the restoration of those foundational Truths of Genesis One in His churches FIRST. (Rev.14:6,7: I Pet.4:17,18)

The call for God’s people “to come out of Babylon (i.e., “confusion”:Rev.18:4) begins with exposing the taproot of all modern Bible-bashing. That taproot is the Copernican lie.

None of us is stranger to deception. It’s everywhere. The only way out of deception is “to continue in God’s Word”. Don’t change it to fit clever deceptions. “Continue” in It.

That done, God promises: “Ye shall know the Truth, and the Truth shall make you free (of Satan’s lies).” (John 8:31,32,44)

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The Red Sea Where The Hebrews Crossed

Red Sea Crossing

Here is the location that God’s Children crossed the Red Sea. Some of the filming had to be hidden from the police. Also, some footage of Mt. Sinai.

Red Sea Split Rock

The rock where God told Moses to hit it with his rod.

One of the greatest miracles recorded in the Bible is also one where there is verifiable proof.

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Some Facts You Might Not Know About The Geocentric Model Of The Universe

I thought I heard all of the facts of the geocentric model but there is some new information that I was pleasantly surprised to learn. So, I thought this would be of special interest to you.

He is a fascinating interview with David Weiss as he explains the geocentric model of Earth and the firmament. For example, we see the size of the Sun in the sky. We are told that it’s 93 million miles away and about 850,000 miles in diameter. Now, do you think you would still be able to see ANY light in the sky if it was 100 times further? What about 1,000 times further? Of course not, because it would be too small to see. It would be like seeing inside of a cell without the aide of a microscope.

Now it gets even more ridiculous – the closest star to Earth is 40,000 times further away than the Sun, and we can see this with our naked eye!? Impossible! (This information was in video 2; here is video 1.)

One caveat and that is, David Weiss said that we are all gods. This is not so, it’s something the devil said back in the Garden of Eden and New Agers say. There is just one God and we are His children. Aside from that, this is a good discussion.

Find out more facts in this video. Click Here.

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The Size and Structure of the Universe According to the Bible and Non-Theoretical Science, part 1

The Size and Structure of the Universe According to the Bible and Non Theoretical Science, Part I

a) That The Earth Is Not Moving;
b) That the Bible’s repeated declarations that it is the Sun that moves and not the Earth are absolutely accurate;
c) That the Big Bang Model ruling today’s cosmology is handcuffed to the Copernican
Heliocentricity Model;
d) That both of these Models are built solely on contra-scientific assumptions held together by
occult mathematics and fraudulent use of computerized technology.
e) That those deceptive and vulnerable assumptions now under gird the entirety of modern man’s
“knowledge”.
f) That both the Heliocentricity and the Big Bang Models represent the fulfillment of a “creation
scenario” of Kabbalic Judaism masquerading as “science”;
g) That the purpose of this hidden religious agenda has been to destroy the “creation scenario” of
the Bible and thereby destroy the credibility of the rest of the Bible right on through Jesus and the
New Testament to Heaven….
h) That the time for all who love truth over deception to give this issue their most careful and
prayerful attention is now. This is especially true for all Christians who realize that their religion
stands or falls on the the restoration of the absolute credibility of the Bible. This Biblical stationary
Earth issue alone can force that restoration and expose all the lies now connected with
evolution-based false science (I Timothy 6:20, 21).

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Why Did So Many Apollo Astro-nots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three Years Time?

Why Did So Many Apollo Astro-nots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three Years Time?

From: aplanetruth.info

Charred remains of fire on Apollo 1 that killed three astronots….so the story goes..

Just before we sent a man to the moon, as the official story goes, there were many mysterious deaths of Apollo candidates for the Moon shot. Were they silenced because they could not be mind controlled or counted on to keep the Great Lie going?

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Apollo/Satan and his fall from Heaven.

Apollo is a powerful God which has inspired several “demonic” or Abyssic Gods. Known as Helios by Nero Caesar, Phoebus or “Shining,” Apollo is the twin brother of Artemis (Diana). His center of worship was at was at Delphi and was renowned throughout the ancient world for its oracular advice delivered by a priestess called the Pythia the Chthonic serpent/dragon.

Nero Caesar and Domitian actually considered himself a manifestation of Apollo as he is the God of Illumination, Light, Music, Medicine and more. His arrows send plague and death which earned him the Biblical name of Apollyon or Abaddon, the King of the Bottomless Pit/ Lucifer.

“Apollo” is another name for Satan or Lucifer.

Isn’t it odd that NASA would name its first exploration of another celestial body after the great deceiver of men himself, Satan?

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Deaths of key people involved with the Apollo program In a television program about the hoax theory, Fox Entertainment Group listed the deaths of 10 astronauts and of two civilians related to the manned spaceflight program as having possibly been killings as part of a coverup.

•Ted Freeman (T-38 crash, 1964)

•Elliott See and Charlie Bassett (T-38 accident, 1966)

•Virgil “Gus” Grissom (supposedly an outspoken critic of the Space Program) (Apollo 1 fire, January 1967) Ed White (Apollo 1 fire, January 1967) Roger Chaffee (Apollo 1 fire, January 1967)

•Ed Givens (car accident, 1967)

•C. C. Williams (T-38 accident, October 1967)

•X-15 pilot Mike Adams (the only X-15 pilot killed in November 1967 during the X-15 flight test program – not a NASA astronaut, but had flown X-15 above 50 miles).

•Robert Lawrence, scheduled to be an Air Force Manned Orbiting Laboratory pilot who died in a jet crash in December 1967, shortly after reporting for duty to that (later cancelled) program.

•NASA worker Thomas Baron Train crash, 1967 shortly after making accusations before Congress about the cause of the Apollo 1 fire, after which he was fired. Ruled as suicide.

•Paul Jacobs, a private investigator from San Francisco, interviewed the head of the US Department of Geology in Washington about the ‘moon rocks’. Did you examine the Moon rocks, did they really come from the Moon? Jacobs asked – the geologist did not respond, only laughed. Paul Jacobs and his wife died from cancer within 90 days.

•Lee Gelvani claims to have almost convinced James Irwin, an Apollo 15 astronaut whom Gelvani referred to as an “informant”, to confess about a cover-up having occurred. Irwin was supposedly going to contact Kaysing about it; however he died of a heart attack in 1991, before any such telephone call occurred. Spacecraft testing and flying high performance jet aircraft can be dangerous, and all but one of the astronaut deaths (Irwin’s) were directly related to their rather hazardous job. Two of the astronauts, Mike Adams and Robert Lawrence, had no connection with the civilian manned space program. Astronaut James Irwin had suffered several heart attacks in the years prior to his death. There is no independent confirmation of Gelvani’s claim that Irwin was about to come forward. Moreover, if there was a coverup (that the Apollo 11 and subsequent landings were faked), the coverup would logically have occurred in 1969 and subsequent years – yet all of the deaths listed above occurred in 1967 or earlier.

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10 Dead NASA astronauts, 1964-67

On 27 January 1967, two years before the first moon landing, Virgil “Gus” Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee were killed in a devastating fire on the Apollo 1 launchpad during a full scale launch simulation. Grissom was greatly liked by his peers, was a strong character, and occupied a central position in the NASA space program. Many had predicted that it would be Grissom who would be the first to walk on the moon.

But Grissom was also an outspoken critic of the program. Among his last words before he died, when there was a communications failure with the capsule just prior to the fire, were: “How are we going to get to the moon when we can’t communicate between two buildings?”

Moments later, the capsule burst into flames with the astronauts sealed inside. They were consumed by the fire with no chance to escape. His widow Betty and his son Scott both still maintain that the astronauts were killed deliberately by sabotage – and that their many questions have never been adequately answered.

Clark McClelland and John Lear insist that there was also a fourth astronaut who died in the capsule, a member of an alternative space program… the “real” one, employing top secret advanced technology, which was highly classified. After the fire, according to McClelland and Lear, a heavy cover-up ensued that continues to this day. (Please see Project Camelot’s interview with John Lear for more details. Lear states that the fourth astronaut’s name is known.)

Thomas Ronald Baron was a safety inspector in Apollo 1’s construction. After the fire, Baron testified before Congress that the Apollo program was in such disarray that the United States would never make it to the moon. He claimed his opinions made him a target, and on 21 April 1967 reported on camera to news reporters that he and his wife had been harassed at home. As part of his testimony Baron submitted a 500 page report detailing his findings. Exactly one week after he testified, Baron’s car was struck by a train and he, his wife and his stepdaughter were all killed instantly. Baron’s report mysteriously disappeared, and to this day it has never been found.

The Apollo program continued, and so did the string of untimely deaths. Between the years of 1964 and 1967 a total of 10 astronauts lost their lives in freak accidents. These deaths accounted for an astonishing 15% of NASA’s astronaut corps.

Apollo 1 Astro-nots praying over Apollo Command Module…why?

“How are we going to get to the moon if we can’t talk between two buildings?” Ed Grissom, Apollo 1

The issue of mysterious and untimely deaths also plagues the moon shots. Were whistle-blowers silenced? The January 1967 death of Gus Grissom, along with Ed White and Roger Chaffee in the Apollo 1 fire, is a possibility. One of the more prominent debunkers of the “we-never-went-to-the-moon” crowd has published his “disgust” that Bill Kaysing would suggest that Gus Grissom was murdered in order to silence him.

Who else makes such a “disgusting” claim? Grissom’s wife and son do. They both believe that the Apollo 1 fire was no accident, and that the truth is being covered up. They have evidence that such a notion might be true, and Grissom’s son Scott is calling for an official investigation into the matter as of 2002. Grissom was critical of NASA, hanging a lemon on a NASA simulator before he died.

People associated with the Apollo 1 simulation on the day of the fire remarked on the strange atmosphere that prevailed. Grissom told his wife that if somebody died in an “accident,” it would likely be him, and not because he was accident prone. Straight-talking Grissom apparently made the NASA brass uneasy with his observations. During the Apollo 1 simulation, just before he died, the communications with the Command Module completely broke down, and Grissom said in exasperation, “How are we going to get to the moon if we can’t talk between two buildings?”

Lola Morrow was the astronauts’ secretary. On the show Moon Shot she can be heard describing the atmosphere on the morning of the fire. She described the mood of Grissom, White and Chaffee as one she had never seen before. Before each flight and major event, the astronauts were eager to get to it. Not that day. They obviously did not want to do the simulation.

Clark MacDonald, an engineer working for McDonnell-Douglas, was hired by NASA to investigate the fire. He now has admitted that more than thirty years earlier, NASA destroyed the evidence he gathered, as well as the report he produced, for “public relations” reasons. MacDonald determined that an electrical short started the fire when the battery power was switched on. Grissom’s son Scott was granted access to the Apollo 1 craft, where he gathered evidence that he says pointed to sabotage, and that there has been a cover-up of it. (Source)

Grissom’s death (taking White and Chaffee with him) is not the only strange one. Bill Kaysing thinks that another man was silenced by murder. Thomas Baron was an inspector for North American Rockwell, the contractor that built the Command Module. The astronauts are united in the opinion that what Rockwell produced was of initially poor quality. The astronauts comment on it in Moon Shot.

Baron was not an engineer, and only had a high school education, but was the detail-oriented fanatic that all technical organizations need. His pals gave him the initials “DR,” which stood for discrepancy report. His supervisor ran out of discrepancy report forms regularly, because Baron used so many of them. He was the squeaky wheel. He made some of his findings public, and Rockwell fired him about three weeks before the Apollo 1 fire. Baron originally produced a fifty-five-page report, and finished a 500-page report that he delivered when he testified to Congress in April of 1967.

His testimony received a hostile reception. A few days later he was dead. His car was struck by a train, killing not only himself, but also his wife and stepdaughter. In shades of Casolaro and Wilcher, his death was officially ruled a suicide. It was worse than that, because he did not only “kill” himself, but also murdered his wife and her child. It took some interesting psychology to arrive at that conclusion, going from being overly conscientious to becoming a murderer.

One theory is that he was distraught over the Apollo 1 fire, so he killed himself and his family. I have not heard about anybody else connected to the Apollo program killing themselves or becoming murderers over the Apollo 1 “accident.” How strange that the biggest whistleblower did. Just what are those odds? The 500-page report disappeared, and has not been seen since.

The moon hoax debunkers have lined up behind the official explanation. Jay Windley thinks that Barons’ report has come up missing partly because it had little investigative value, and that Baron may have indeed killed himself, but if he were murdered, it would have been a private contractor, not NASA, and if they wanted to silence him, they should have done it before he testified. Jay may be right, but I have encountered far too many conveniently timed deaths during my investigations to make my suspicion go away, especially when Grissom’s son thinks he was murdered.

Killing whistle-blowers such as Thomas Baron was standard operating procedure for the defense establishment, if it related to military matters. I know people who have been involved in Department of Defense whistle-blowing activities. It could get pretty scary. Sometimes, people would simply “disappear,” Jimmy Hoffa-style.

When billions of dollars are at stake, murdering a few people with “big mouths” or who otherwise stand in the way is standard activity. That is the nature of American-style capitalism. Why should it be different regarding space matters? I was challenged to provide some evidence of what I know about whistle-blowers, and without naming names, this footnote presents a little of what I am aware of.[62]

James Irwin was an Apollo 15 astronaut. He became a Born Again Christian, leading an effort to find Noah’s Ark. According to what I have read and heard, in 1991, Irwin contacted Kaysing to have a chat. Why would Irwin call a “kook” such as Kaysing? Four days after allegedly trying to contact Kaysing, Irwin was dead from a heart attack. Did “Born Again” Irwin want to unburden his conscience? Irwin had heart disease, so that may explain it, but the spooks can apparently induce heart attacks using normally undetectable means. ”

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10 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe

10 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe

Note: Sometimes you only have a short time to talk to people. It could be because they are busy, or they are not interested, or they have a short attention span – which is often the case, sadly to say. So, here are 10 “sound bites” you can say.

Proof The Earth Is Not Flat

Before you debate a flat earth believer, you have to know what they believe in to debate him. Here are just 10 of the many reasons why why believe in a flat earth. Then, you have to be able to disprove it. IF you can’t, well then…you might have to change your beliefs.

The following is a verbatim copy of A hundred proofs the Earth is Not a Globe by William Carpenter (1885).

1 The aeronaut can see for himself that Earth is a Plane. The appearance presented to him, even at the highest elevation he has ever attained, is that of a concave surface – this being exactly what is to be expected of a surface that is truly level, since it is the nature of level surfaces to appear to rise to a level with the eye of the observer. This is ocular demonstration and proof that Earth is not a globe.

2 Whenever experiments have been tried on the surface of standing water, this surface has always been found to be level. If the Earth were a globe, the surface of all standing water would be convex. This is an experimental proof that Earth is not a globe.

3 Surveyors’ operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest “allowance” being made for “curvature,” although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.

4 There are rivers that flow for hundreds of miles towards the level of the sea without falling more than a few feet – notably, the Nile, which, in a thousand miles, falls but a foot. A level expanse of this extent is quite incompatible with the idea of the Earth’s “convexity.” It is, therefore, a reasonable proof that Earth is not a globe.

5 The lights which are exhibited in lighthouses are seen by navigators at distances at which, according to the scale of the supposed “curvature” given by astronomers, they ought to be many hundreds of feet, in some cases, down below the line of sight! For instance: the light at Cape Hatteras is seen at such a distance (40 miles) that, according. to theory, it ought to be nine-hundred feet higher above the level of the sea than it absolutely is, in order to be visible! This is a conclusive proof that there is no “curvature,” on the surface of the sea – “the level of the sea,”- ridiculous though it is to be under the necessity of proving it at all: but it is, nevertheless, a conclusive proof that the Earth is not a globe.

6 If we stand on the sands of the sea-shore and watch a ship approach us, we shall find that she will apparently “rise” – to the extent, of her own height, nothing more. If we stand upon an eminence, the same law operates still; and it is but the law of perspective, which causes objects, as they approach us, to appear to increase in size until we see them, close to us, the size they are in fact. That there is no other “rise” than the one spoken of is plain from the fact that, no matter how high we ascend above the level of the sea, the horizon rises on and still on as we rise, so that it is always on a level with the eye, though it be two-hundred miles away, as seen by Mr. J. Glaisher, of England, from Mr. Coxwell’s balloon. So that a ship five miles away may be imagined to be “coming up” the imaginary downward curve of the Earth’s surface, but if we merely ascend a hill such as Federal Hill, Baltimore, we may see twenty-!five miles away, on a level with the eye – that is, twenty miles level distance beyond the ship that we vainly imagined to be ” rounding the curve,” and “coming up!” This is a plain proof that the Earth is not a globe.

7 If we take a trip down the Chesapeake Bay, in the day-time, we may see for ourselves the utter fallacy of the idea that when a vessel appears “hull down,” as it is called, it is because the hull is “behind the water:” for, vessels, have been seen, and may often be seen – again, presenting the appearance spoken of, and away – far away – beyond those vessels, and, at the same moment, the level shore line, with its accompanying complement of tall trees towering up, in perspective, over the heads of the “hull-down” ships! Since, then, the idea will not stand its ground when the facts rise up against it, and it is a piece of the popular theory, the theory is a contemptible piece of business, and we may easily wring from it a proof that Earth is not a globe.

8 If the Earth were a globe, a small model globe would be the very best – because the truest – thing for the. navigator to take to sea with him. But such a thing as that is not known: with such a toy as a guide, the mariner would wreck his ship, of a certainty!, This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.

9 As mariners take to sea with them charts constructed as though the sea were a level surface, however these charts may err as to the true form of this level surface taken as a whole, it is clear, as they find them answer their purpose tolerably well – and only tolerably for many ships are wrecked owing to the error of which we speak – that the surface of the sea is as it is taken to be, whether the captain of the ship “supposes” the Earth to be a globe or anything else. Thus, then, we draw, from the common system of “plane sailing,” a practical proof that Earth is not a globe.

10 That the mariners’ compass points north and south at the same time is a fact as indisputable as that two and two makes four; but that this would be impossible if the thing, were placed on a globe with “north” and “south’ at the centre of opposite hemispheres is a fact that does not figure in the school-books, though very easily seen: and it requires no lengthy train of reasoning to bring out of it a pointed proof that the Earth is not a globe.

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US Navy CGI Photo of UFO

US Navy CGI Photo of UFO

The latest news is that the US Navy supposedly video taped a UFO over the ocean. This appeared on Yahoo News. Guess what? The video did not play in my region and the photo that went with the article looked like a painting, though it might have been a CGI. Is this the best the government can do to convince their citizens? I guess so. This might be a test to see how dumb people are. They figure since the people believe all the news about Covid, let’s see what cheesy pictures we can get away with on UFOs!

Another news items is that China supposedly landed a craft on Mars. I guess some graphic artist is busy at Mission Control!

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A Talk About The Spinning Earth

A Talk About The Spinning Earth

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Richard talks to John about some basic physics and says that things just don’t add up.

Richard: Hi John, how are you doing?

John: Fine, thanks, and you?

Richard: Good. What I would like to discuss is some basic physics that just doesn’t make sense. I mean, I know physics, but there are some areas that just doesn’t add up.

John: What do you mean?

Richard: These are simple questions and you might think they are stupid but it’s a good point to start.

You can feel my breath, right?

John: Of course, if you breath on me hard enough.

Richard: you can jump and land in same spot, right?

John: Of course.

Richard: Birds can fly insects can fly, planes can take off, fly and land. What happens if you step down on a moving platform going 10mph?

John: I’d fall.

Richard: What if it was moving 100mph?

John: Fall fast and hard.

Richard: You confirm that all is true. How do you know it’s true? Because you can feel it; this validates your reality, right?

John: Yes. But where are you going with all this?

Richard: Just hold on. Now, we are told the earth spins 1,000mph at equator right? Do you believe that?

John: Yes.

Richard: Why?

John: Because I was told.

Richard: But what about your senses? If that is true, why don’t we feel it?

John: Because we are told it’s gravity

Richard: If it’s gravity, everything would have to be moving in sync: air, objects, etc. That is what we are told by physics professors. Remember, that is what we are told.

IF this is true, why can you feel my breath?

It’s part of gravity, we are told.

John agreed with this.

Richard: If it is, why does gravity effect all air molecules but not what you breath out? How can a bird fly against such heavy wind? How can a plane land on ground that is going 1,000mph? And do so in a different direction without crashing?

John: That means the plane would have to be going at exactly the same speed as the planet.

Richard: Then how can it land on a N S runway while the earth is spinning towards the East?

Do you believe the earth is spinning because you see the Sun moving over head?

John: Yes.

Richard: Have you ever thought that it’s the Sun MOVING and not the earth?

If I went to some tribe in the Amazon that never saw modern civilization. We look up and a plane is moving across the sky. What would he say?

John: Probably that the plane is moving.

Richard: If I told him the ground is moving, would be believe that?

John: We don’t know, but he might believe it.

Richard: If I told him over and over again that the plane is not moving but the earth, he most probably would believe it. But we know that it’s not earth moving but the plane. If he asks why then does the plane move out of view, we could say that is because the earth, which is round, is moving from his view.

We know that the plane is moving and not the earth because we have been in the plane; we can see it move across the ground very fast and see it take off from the ground. But what if we never saw that? What if we keep hearing that the earth is moving and not the plane? What if we were told since a child to always believe the teachers, the media and government? You would believe them when you hear their explanation that is opposite of what they were told? You would have no question that they were lying; you could not possible think that such smart people made a mistake.

So, we see the Sun move across the sky and believe that it’s actually the earth moving. Maybe we believe all this because we were told this! And, from our standpoint it also makes sense, so we don’t question it. But if you were flying along side the Sun you would have a different perspective, right?

John: I presume so.

Richard: Have you ever seen how far the Sun is actually from the earth? If you just put aside your beliefs for a moment so you can follow along. What if I told you that you could fly to the altitude of the Sun, and you followed along. You’ll see the earth still but only the Sun moving. What I’m saying is, that you get a different perspective.

Now, back to the air molecules in perfect sync with the earth’s spinning and that is why you don’t feel it and why nothing is destroyed by the fast movement of the earth. Tell me, how is it that ALL the air molecules are in perfect sync with the spinning – which we are told by professors – but someone how, our little breath we can blow air on someone next to us and they feel it. How is it that the force, gravity or whatever you call it can not equally effect air molecules, insects flying or leaves blowing?

John: I don’t know. This is confusing.

Richard: If you believe what you are told about gravity and air molecules in perfect sync with the spinning AND you believe that you can feel the air from someone’s breath – they are contradictory to each other. If one is true, the other can’t be. If you believe both are true, do you know what you call that?

John: No.

Cognitive Dissonances, which means: holding both beliefs are that are opposite of each other and believing both are true. This is cognitive dissonance. That is not a sign of a stable mind.

To help you some more. The one we were only told. The other, actually feel it and can test it. So, which do you believe?

John: That’s a difficult question, I have to think on that one awhile.

Richard: Good. The next time lets continue the talk, OK?

John: Fine.

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Flat Earth In Old Newspapers, Sample 1

Flat Earth In Old Newspapers, Sample 1

I thought you might like to see some old flat earth articles. You might have to zoom in to 125% to be able to read it. All these articles are fascinating, but the arguments by critics are much the same as they are today.

Click to access fe-old-newspaper-1.pdf

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Flat Earth Videos Taken Down

Liars Are In Control

Here is proof that liars are in control. Now, some people might say it’s circumstantial evidence but when you have enough of this, it points that liars are in control. I went back to the old videos that were once online on YouTube and they are no longer there. You can do a check yourself and see messages such as: “This account is closed,” or simply, “video no longer available,” or something that says it’s in violation of “Community standards.” Now, why would the owner close his own account (for those that state that). If they believe in what they put up, why close it? And, it doesn’t cost any money to keep your channel, even if you have no activity. It’s not like you stopped paying for your web hosting and your account is closed. YouTube is free. But we all know the answer to this and that is – politically correctness has reached anything that has to do with the flat earth.

Truth does not need to be censored. If we are wrong, and they are right (globe earth believers), they would encourage such videos and articles to be online – so they can debate us. The “guardians of the press” would want to debate us to show how we are wrong. But they don’t, because they can’t debate us. The most that they do is, they say what we say, and we said nothing of the sort; they take what we said out of context or completely lie about it.

It is flat earth believers who are ready and willing to debate them but they turn down the offer. The same goes for many other topics that are classified, such as: politically incorrect, racist, phobic of some sort, nationalist and Christian. Now, there are some flat earthers that might believe in all this political correctness but they should re-examine their position. The lying is systemic and they (government, media, education) lie on every subject where they can control or hurt us in some way. The biggest thing that they lie about is this covid nonsense. I don’t want to talk too much about that here as thousands have already been de-platform. And, CFEM is not on a private paid hosting site where it would be harder to be banned.

The only place you can talk at length about certain topics, like covid is: on a paid for hosting website (and that is problematic) and on alternative social media sites. Some alternative social media sites are: minds.com, usa.life, bitchute.com, etc. I do have a group of flat earthers on usa.life by the way.

I’m sure the topic of flat earth is in the cross-hair of being banned. Why? Because, when people realize that they have been lied to about the nature of the earth, it will lead people to question other topics that they were lied to. In short, they will learn the truth in areas that are deemed “politically incorrect.” Learning about the flat earth will lead people to believe in God of the Bible. From there, they will learn that we should live by God’s laws – which the churches dare not talk about because they have fallen for the lie many years ago. Now, when people learn that the laws of the land should be what we should live by – this will be the downfall of the Beast System. And, the Beast System know it.

Why do you think that the main enemy in the Soviet Union were Christians? Why do you think that millions were in prison and millions more died? Because as a true Christian people worshipped God and not the State. This, the State could not have. Russian Orthodox people also believe in biblical laws and this would end the Beast System that was set up back in 1917.

Christian churches of all denominations have bought the lie of not to say anything against the world system and this has been going on for many generations.

“So, where do you find the truth on this topic?”

Just do a search on Christian Identity or Christian Identity Church. This a loose group of pastors and individuals who believe in the Bible and are not afraid to preach against “the powers that be.”

When you do your search on Google, you’ll find that only links that are hateful about CI show up. This is expected from Google, as their algorithms are politically based, not scientifically based. So, do your search on an alternative search engine – which actually gives you the results that you type in. Such as, duckduckgo.com

When you compare the two search engines – you’ll see that the liars are in control. And this goes for any “controversial” topic that you type it. Why should there be a difference if all algorithms are accurate? Well, they are not – as Google and others like them change it when it comes to topics like this, including the flat earth.

In conclusion, continue your search for truth no matter where it leads you.

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