Flat Earth Questions 9 June

Flat Earth Questions 9 June

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  Here are some flat earth questions that I read recently. I notice that the people had not really thought through what they asked.

I’ll answer them as if I was talking to them, so don’t take this personally. I’ll use the word “you” as if I were talking to them.

Question by DM

Why do flat Earthers think water (and people) would fly off a spinning Earth due to

centrifugal force? (After all, you could sit on the edge of a merry-go-round that

rotated once in 24 hours and barely feel a thing.)

Let me ask you a question. What is the diameter of the merry-go-round? What is the diameter of the Earth (as globe earthers believe)? It’s about 8,000, verses a merry-go-round that could be, say, 30 feet. There’s a big difference. If you were to have a line of people that was 4,000 miles long (using the radius), the person in the centre would move very little, while the person on the end would have to more about 1,000 mph! At that speed everything would fly off, including homes and office buildings!

Experiments have been done with water in a tank and put on a turning platform; even a at a few miles per hour the water pushes up to the side. Naturally you would not feel anything on a merry-go-round that turns once a day but on a ball that is about 8,000 miles in diameter is another story.

by JW

How do flat Earthers expect to convince me if they never answer sincere questions I ask them such as why the disc-shaped Sun doesn’t appear like an ellipse when it’s far away?

Anything on the horizon will take on a different shape because of looking through more atmosphere, which is denser at ground level verse look up. Also, you have much more radiant heat coming off the Earth which distorts images and you have more pollution particles.

Now, back to, “expect to convince me if they never answer sincere questions I ask them…” doesn’t make sense. So, in other words, you ask “someone” at “some time” on “some platform” and you didn’t get an answer, so that is your reason for excusing a whole field of science? Have you ever thought of looking that the many, many answers to the many questions that were asked by others and that were answered? That should be enough.

  DonM

How do proponents of the flat Earth model explain car odometer readings for southern driving routes that come out more consistent with the spherical Earth model than with the flat Earth model?

Let me ask you a question. How do proponents of the globe Earth model explain that there are no differences in odometer readings for southern driving? You might have read something to that effect and you assumed it was true. Have you ever been south of the equator? Have you ever driven there? Well, I have and I tell you from reality – there is no difference in odometer readings!

 

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Exposing People Who Call Themselves Christians

Exposing People Who Call Themselves Christians

Have you had your own family not help you even when you knew they could?

Matthew 25:34-40

 

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Nothing Produces Nothing

By Lady Blount

The Earth Review 1895

There is nothing in Scripture showing that there are other worlds, but the contrary, for God made the Sun, Moon, and Stars to serve this Earth, “and God made TWO great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.” And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, “ and to rule the day, and the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” Now note — “ In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” (Gen. i. i)- After this Moses gives account of what God created on the first, second, and third days of creation ; but not until the fourth day were the Sun, Moon, and Stars created : and the Maker’s purpose in creating them is given, (viz.), to divide the day from the night;— for signs, for seasons, for days and years ; and to give light upon the earth.— Therefore, I would ask the unprejudiced and candid reader to answer to him, or herself the following question;

A twisted imagination becomes ‘science.’

  It perfectly unacquainted with the teaching of modern astronomy, would such far fetched and preposterous notions ever enter the mind that the earth is a whirling globe, consisting of less than one-third land, and over two-thirds of water— tearing away through space at a thousand miles per minute (which contrary to all reason and experiences, water being level and not convex— and contrary to the Bible which tells me that the earth is outstretched like a plane— having foundations— and that it should “ not be moved for ever,”) ? See Isa. xlii., 5 ; Jer. xxxi., 37; and Psa. civ., 5. In the days of my youth my father used to tell me much about the heavenly bodies, as he took great interest in them and sometimes lectured on astronomy. He taught me that our earth was a “ planet” moving and rotating round the sun with its attendant the moon, at the rate of about 1,000 miles a minute, which orbit it completed once in the course of 365 days. The sun being one million three hundred and eighty thousand times larger than the earth, and that it was calculated that we are about ninety-five millions of miles distant therefrom (different astronomers differing from time to time, and disagreeing one from another in the matter of just a few million of miles !) But I cannot forget that with all due respect to my dear father, (whom I loved very dearly), I never felt to believe it at all. And the words lingered in my mind it is calculated; and the thought came (if not in so many words), how is it possible to start a numerical calculation upon, or without a root and real fact and number, and I wondered as a child will wonder where they got their starting point. The unit I knew was requisite before tens, hundreds and thousands could be reached — let alone millions and billions—-and not being able to put my thoughts into words, I got tired of wondering, and gave it up. But now I have come to middle age, my attention is again drawn to the same subject, and I find that these calculations have no true basis for finding the root number for their prodigious calculations, for neither the Bible nor Nature supplies them any one fact as a basis for their speculating. Nor is there one word in the Scriptures upholding the Globular theory— its alone support being “ Science,” which an inspired writer says is “ falsely so-called.” The root word of science— scio— means I know. But God’s word says that they (the professors of science) do not know (Rom. i. 22, 25) , which is further proved by their teaching being contrary to His written word— from which word we may learn (Gen. i. 7— 9) that the Creator made a firmament which he called Heaven; and divided the waters thereby. And God said, let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let dry land appear:” therefore the firmament, heavenly bodies, and dry land or earth, are most certainly placed between the divided “ waters.”

Isaiah xi. 22 (r .v.) gives the shape of the earth as a circle— the description of the heavens as a stretched out curtain— a tent. Job xxvi. 10 (r.v.) describes the outer circle of the world, as being

beyond reach of the sun’s light and in the 136th Psalm 7— 9, we read “ To Him that made great lights— the sun to rule the day— the moon and stars to rule the night— thus showing that they were created to serve this earth alone in comparison with which they probably are very small— but this— together with their distance from the earth— who can accurately decide?— No one could, either by rule or calculation, or in any way— unless God reveals it. (See Jer. Xxxi, 37.)

So I am led to fall back again upon my early conclusions that nothing than be produced out of nothing, and to regard orthodox astronomy as erroneous, being the outcome of human invention, and the mythical production of those (after the fashion of the spirit possessed by the builders of the Tower of Babel) desirous of going beyond their search— who only were the authors, and promoters in starting these theories, in setting them forth as mere problems, and suggestions. But years are supposed to have rolled them into accepted and solid “ facts ” which all truth seekers and Christians would do well to reject; and accept nothing that differs from the Bible account of Creation— to the glory and honour of Jehovah our God.

Quite lately, I have received letters from two correspondents, in which they ask me what the shape of the earth has to do with salvation? To the first enquirer, who had been himself dwelling upon the subject in preaching, I answered— know of nothing of greater importance than bringing to light error which upsets the truth of the Bible (as does the popular and orthodox teaching in astronomy), but if you do not think it advisable to bring it forward, why you do so? To my second enquirer who had introduced the earth as a globe in an article which he had written for publication, I quoted my letter in answer to my first correspondent, adding, that it was quite natural that Christian globe theorists should be desirous of avoiding this subject when they come in contact with Christian opponents, the former having not one word of scripture to uphold them,; their argument must fall through.

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How Something Can Be Made Real By Denying They Are Real

How Aliens Are Made Real by NASA

The Illuminati, Jews, or whomever you believe are in control have a clever way of covering up the flat earth truth. Here is a short video of William Cooper (deceased Sept. 2001) of how he used to believe in aliens and why he doesn’t now.

Note: It is no coincidence that the link to the video I post is not working. Do a search on ‘alien hoaxes’ and you actually find videos that support ET’s (and they say Google has good algorithms?). There are some videos that say it’s a hoax with a ‘tongue-in-cheek’ way. But if someone should re-post that video I had a link to, download it in case it’s deleted again. Thanks.

William Cooper was once in naval intelligence and it was then that he had witnessed a UFO, or so he thought. Since then he had spoken at UFO conferences about his experience. It wasn’t until years later that he discovered the truth – that UFO don’t exist. (Let me clarify this, anything can be a UFO until it’s identified. Planes can be a UFO until they are identified as a plane. So, in this context, when I use the term “UFO” we are talking about space ships from other planets.)

Now, this may sound as a contradiction but just read a bit more…

I think that NASA and others had a dilemma years ago, and they came up with a plan on how to fool the people. Their real aim is to get the public to believe that there are billions of planets out there; that there are some that might contain intelligent life, and that we can travel to other planets. They thought (my theory, anyhow) that most people will not believe in aliens, so the best way to get most of them TO believe in aliens is to deny they exist.

Now, this may seem counter-intuitive but it’ll work if the plans are carried out right. What you do is:

1 – Outright deny they exist

2 – Allow some slipping of videos in the public domain that shows something flying by, etc. Allow other “slip-ups” such as the face on Mars. But still deny aliens exist.

3 – Let other talk about Abductions, Contacts, etc. Let a few of your selected people create popular websites on the extra-terrestrial/paranormal theme, etc.

4 – Allow main-stream media cover UFO stories as a “matter-of-fact” articles so people who only believe what main-stream media says can start thinking, “Maybe UFOs are real.” No more critising believers as they did in the past.

5 – Allow UFO documents held by the government come forth through “The Freedom of Information Act.” These documents will point out that UFO do exist (though they really don’t).

6 – Finally, have various government agencies, such as NASA, naval intelligence, FBI, etc. finally admit that we have been visited by others; there is life on other planets, etc. Thus, mission complete.

What Do I Mean By All of This?

Again, my theory is, that if this plan is followed, it’s long in planning – even over several generations – the majority of people will believe in something to be a total lie by FIRST DENYING it exists, then admitting it does exist.

To explain in more detail, one would deny such live outside out planet exists but let pressure build up, make some “controlled slip-ups” to get people to question what the government is doing. Make phoney reports over the years that can be shown later to future generations. This way the public would think this is all genuine “After all, they are old documents and reports filed years ago, so this must be real.” This also gives the illusion that “the people are in control.”

Then, when NASA, for example, says that, “UFOs are real. Sorry, we covered it up as we thought you couldn’t take truth back then, but now we feel you need to know; it’s a matter of national emergency.” What purpose does this serve to say all this? I think it severs several agendas, such as:

Justification of NASA

Justification of huge defense spending

Bringing in a One World Government (ZOG)

International Banking

Taxing the people

Controlling the people

Covering up the fact that the earth is flat, with a dome, and that planets don’t exist as we know them

Keeping people from believing in the Bible (which really is the number one thing that the rulers really want)

NASA and others realize that the people will soon wake up – after all it’s hard to keep faking space flights, man-made satellites, pictures of other planets, landing on the moon, etc. They realize that people will wake up – as they are doing now. If too many wake up and pressure is put on the government that means that their multi-billion dollar budget they get each year from Congress will dry up immediately. The extremely wealthy within NASA don’t like this, so they have to keep the con game going, and by introducing the “alien factor” this will do it.

Once People Accept the Belief in Aliens

Once the people accept the belief in aliens – and it will look genuine because the government “finally admits” that it’s true – then the money will keep pouring in. After all, we now have to be protected by aliens. That means 100’s of billions for defence, black ops projects, NASA, etc.

The bankers love this as this is how they make their money – through loans and interest on it.

“We must all pull together, we can’t be divided. The only way to fight this alien presence is by a One World Government.”

With increased spending, there are more taxes, with more taxes, that means less money for you, with less money for you means CONTROL.

With aliens from other planets, that means there must be other global planets and their star systems. This means that earth is a globe, too, and there there is no dome to prevent aliens from entering.

With the re-enforced belief that we are just one planet out of billions, people will remain agnostic, atheist or a member of some cult religion. These critics will continue to say, “How can you believe in the Bible when it says, ‘God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son. That whosoever believes on Him shall not die but have ever-lasting life.’ Then what about all the other planets. If God has only one son, how can He send His son to other planets that have sin (surely their must be other planets with sin out of billions!). How do you explain this?”

This is what non-Christians will say and what will Christians answer? How can we be significant and special with God when there could be billions of other inhabitable planets out there?

Keeping the People From the Bible

The whole key, the real key to all this lie about the true nature of the earth is to keep the people from the Bible. Now, this may sound like I’m getting off the subject but I’m not. If the people are kept from believing in the Bible as the literal word of God – by whatever method that works – this means that the people will not look to the Bible for answers to everyday problems. The answers to problems like:

  • Health
  • Happiness
  • Propensity
  • Freedom

People will be looking to other man-made philosophies and modern-day New Age gurus for answers. They are turning to people like: Gregg Braden, David Icke, Jordon Maxwell, Deli Lama, etc.

Money is on most people’s minds and by not turning to the Bible – people will not know that God condemns usury/interest. It is usury or interests (really one and the same) that is destroying economies like Greece, Spain, and indeed, the rest of the world. People who don’t believe in the Bible will not read the solution; when nations get themselves into debt like this (through un-biblical living) that such debt should be cancelled. That includes private, corporate and government.

One way to get people to turn to the Bible is through the flat earth truth. If you are familiar with the history of the flat earth, you’ll know that those of the late 19th and early 20th Century were Bible believes – you can read some of their booklets and pamphlets on this site.

In short, this is what I believe is going on with the “disclosure of aliens” and how it relates to the flat earth.

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The True Cost of Running the European Union

The True Cost of Running the European Union

The whole world has heard of the word “Brexit” that is happening now in England. There are many people in every European country that would love to leave the EU but only the UK is in the forefront. So, what is the real cost of being in the EU? This video tells the monetary value but what it does not tell is that the EU is also part of the modern-day Babylonian System.

This lady, who is an employee of the EU tells of the cost – the cost that is passed on to the tax payers of each country. That is, if they are lucky enough to be working.

So, for those “Remainers” who want to stay to the EU, think again. In short, it cost each nation much, much more to be in the EU than to leave.

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If You Don’t Believe in Geoengineering, Than Explain These Patents!

If You Don’t Believe in Geoengineering, Than Explain These Patents!

“Justice? You get justice in the next world. In this one you have the law.” ― William Gaddis
“The guiding principle of ruling elites was–and still is: When change threatens to rule, then the rules are changed.” – Michael Parenti “

There are many more patents that pertains to chemtrails – below are just four of them. I also included two PDF files on two of them.

US Patent 6408704

US Patent 7655193

Inventors:
Gregory H Rau, Castro Valley, Ca
Kenneth G. Caldeira, Livermore, Ca

An apparatus and method associated therewith to extract and sequester carbon dioxide (CO2) from a stream or volume of gas wherein said apparatus hydrates CO2 and reacts the resulting carbonic acid with carbonate. Suitable carbonates include, but are not limited to, carbonates of alkali metals and alkaline earth metals, preferably carbonates of calcium and magnesium. Waste products are metal cations and bicarbonate in solution or dehydrated metal salts, which when disposed of in a large body of water provide an effective way of sequestering CO2 from a gaseous environment.

US Patent 6890497

A method and apparatus to extract and sequester carbon dioxide (CO2) from a stream or volume of gas wherein said method and apparatus hydrates CO2, and reacts the resulting carbonic acid with carbonate. Suitable carbonates include, but are not limited to, carbonates of alkali metals and alkaline earth metals, preferably carbonates of calcium and magnesium. Waste products are metal cations and bicarbonate in solution or dehydrated metal salts, which when disposed of in a large body of water provide an effective way of sequestering CO2 from a gaseous environment.

US Patent 5922976

An aerosol detection system for measuring particle number distribution with respect to particle dimension in an aerosol sample. The system includes an alternating dual-bag sampler, a radially classified differential mobility analyzer, and a condensation nucleus counter. Pressure variations in sampling are compensated by feedback control of volumetric flow rates.

Inventors:
Lynn M Russell, Boulder, Colo.
Richard C Flagan, La Canada
Shouhua Zhang, Arcadia, both of Ca.

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The Rotating Earth part 1

Amazing, no clouds anywhere on earth! Yet, this is suppose to be a real image.

Amazing, no clouds anywhere on earth! Yet, this is suppose to be a real image.

  “Whilst we sit drinking our cup of tea or coffee the world is supposedly rotating at 1,039 mph at the equator, whizzing around the Sun at 66,500 mph, hurtling towards Lyra at 20,000 mph, revolving around the centre of the ‘Milky Way’ at 500,000 mph and merrily moving at God knows what velocity as a consequence of the ‘Big Bong.’ And not even a hint of a ripple on the surface of our tea, yet tap the table lightly with your finger and … !” – Neville T. Jones

“I remember being taught when a boy, that the Earth was a great ball, revolving at a very rapid rate around the Sun, and, when I expressed to my teacher my fears that the waters of the oceans would tumble off, I was told that they were prevented from doing so by Newton‟s great law of Gravitation, which kept everything in its proper place. I presume that my countenance must have shown some signs of incredulity, for my teacher immediately added – I can show you a direct proof of this; a man can whirl around his head a pail filled with water without its being spilt, and so, in like manner, can the oceans be carried round the Sun without losing a drop. As this illustration was evidently intended to settle the matter, I then said no more upon the subject. Had such been proposed to me afterwards as a man, I would have answered somewhat as follows – Sir, I beg to say that the illustration you have given of a man whirling a pail of water round his head, and the oceans revolving round the Sun, does not in any degree confirm your argument, because the water in the two cases is placed under entirely different circumstances, but, to be of any value, the conditions in each case must be the same, which here they are not. The pail is a hollow vessel which holds the water inside it, whereas, according to your teaching, the Earth is a ball, with a continuous curvature outside, which, in agreement with the laws of nature, could not retain any water.” – David Wardlaw Scott, “Terra Firma: The Earth Not a Planet Proved From Scripture, Reason, and Fact”

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The Film: Ancient Aliens Debunked

For believers in the flat earth and the true nature of planets and stars, your next question might be, “What about extra-terrestrials (E.T.s) Here is a 3 hour 10 minute documentary on ancient aliens. Now, before you get upset and think that this is a cheap government hatchet job, consider this video first. Even if you don’t believe in all of it, there are many questions raised.

Though this video does not talk about the flat earth, it’s good to show globe earth believers as this supports the flat earth. Since we believe that God just made one world and that it’s enclosed would make Aliens from other worlds impossible.

When the video talks about the Great Pyramid, doesn’t mean that man came up with the plans. Have you ever considered the plans were given to them by our Creator, God? After all, this is what God did with Noah – plans on building the Ark.

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Hiding God by Mark Sargent

Hiding God by Mark Sargent

One argument that globe earth believers have is, “What is the purpose of hiding information about the flat earth if it’s true?” Or other similar questions. First, they assume that we are told only the truth in universities, media and government. What they don’t realise is that there are people who, in order to make money and have power over you, have to conceal the truth. One way is to continue to have people believe in a universe that evolved from the “Big Bang” with the purpose of getting people to follow man’s laws – whatever they may be – rather than God’s laws. Though Mark Sargent didn’t get into this, this is the true reason, but more about that in a future article. Now, on with the video…

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New World Order Is Not God’s New World Order

New World Order Is Not God’s New World Order

The New World Order is not God’s New World Order. Find out who is behind the order. As Franklin Roosevelt once said, “Nothing in politics happens by accident.” (That includes the bombing of Pearl Harbour by the way.) We don’t elect our leaders, they are pre-elected, and with internet ballets, it’s easier than ever. (Forget the Russians, it’s our un-elected leaders who influence the elections.)

Quotes by our so-called leaders on the New World Order.

This was recorded when George Bush was President but it’s more relevant today.

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