A Truth Seeker’s Attack On The Flat Earth, part 1
There are many good people who are good Christians; they know many Bible truths as well as conspiracies, in general. They expose these lies, which is good, but there are some lies that they still believe. So, we must have patience with them for the good work that they do do, but this doesn’t mean we should not point out where they are wrong in. So, read the following in a Christian light. After all, did we not believe in the round spinning earth at one time? Yet we knew the other lies that have been fostered on us.
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As a Christian Identity “adherent,” who has been and is studying the issue of whether the Earth is a sphere spinning around its axis at over 1000 mph at the equator and spinning around the sun at over 67,000 mph,[1] I took exception to the ranting and raving I heard directed towards me and others like myself, found on the podcast titled, “Round Earth Roundtable,”
Ironically, Finck uses a CGI of the round Earth put forth as an authentic image of the globe NASA want us to believe is the Earth. Not too difficult to fool Finck it seems.
Disagreeing with much of what Mr. Finck, and other participants of the “round table discussion” said during this podcast, I find it necessary to reply to some of the statements made during the discussion for several reasons, reasons which will be discussed throughout this missive.
On the site where the podcast is available, are the statements:
“Is our planet Earth flat? Probably not.”
“Should Identity Christians care if the Earth is flat? Probably not.”
Probably not? Why is Finck hedging here? Is the Earth flat or isn’t it? Should we Identity Christians care if the Earth is flat? Again, he uses the word “probably.” Well, what is it? Probably not, maybe or yes we should?
“Identity Christians should keep themselves above and away from all of the fringe conspiracy theories that discredit our cause, distract us from what we should be doing, and drive people away from our core message, which is indeed true.”
Apparently, it is Finck who determines what is and what is not a “fringe conspiracy theory” that the rest of us should “keep ourselves above and away from.” As for me, I am not going to let Finck dictate to me what I can or cannot study. Neither am I going to let Finck decide for me what I should or should not be doing.
Here’s a written portion of Finck’s opinion about what and what does not have a place in Christian Identity found in his opening remarks:
“First, I want to talk about an issue that has come into Christian Identity circles …. and this issue has no place at all in Christian Identity: because no matter what the shape of the earth is, it has absolutely no bearing on the fate of our people. It has absolutely no bearing as to what is happening to Christians, and when I say Christians, I mean White Israelite Christians, on what is happening to Christians in the world today. It doesn’t matter if the earth is round, flat, square, if it looks like a Rubic’s Cube, if it looks like a baseball bat, IT DOES NOT MATTER. There are some things that Identity Christians, some arguments, some disputes, that are so stupid, and irrelevant, and disconnected to our reality, CI adherents should not get involved in them at all. And when the mainstream everyday people see you as a freaking quack, you’re never going to get the important components of your message across to them. We don’t give a damn if the earth is a pancake, a Petri dish, a basketball, We don’t care. If we want to get the truth of our Christian Identity message over to people, we should stay away from the quackery.”
According to Finck, if “mainstream everyday people see you as a freaking quack,” we are never going to get the important aspects of our (Christian Identity) message across to them. Apparently, it is Finck’s opinion, (and it is important to note that it is nothing more than Finck’s opinion), that Christian Identity “adherents,” if we want to effectively get our message of racial Israelite Identity, as found in Scripture, out to everyday people, we should avoid being seen as “quacks” involved in “quackery.”
Technically, quackery is defined as “the methods and treatments used by unskillful doctors or by people who pretend to be doctors.”[2] So, why Finck used the words “quack” and “quackery” to describe those of us interested in ascertaining the truth of the Earth Yahweh created for us to live upon, escapes me. Nevertheless, the point he seems to be trying to make is, we should avoid appearing as “quacks,” or “conspiracy theorists,” or “nut cases” to “everyday people” if we hope to reach them with our message.
Finck says we should appear to “mainstream everyday people” to be like they are, we should appear to others to be normal people who don’t involve ourselves at all in “stupid, and “irrelevant” issues “disconnected with our reality,” in order to get the Christian Identify message across to these same “mainstream everyday people.”
Fact is, many, especially Judeo-Christians (an oxymoron) consider me a heretic, a racist, a Nazi and a “freaking quack” because of my Christian racial Identity views. Does that mean I should drop my CI views?
Off the top of my head I can think of several issues we Identity Christians should then, using Finck’s “logic,” avoid at all costs if we do not want to be considered “quacks” by “mainstream everyday people:” the holocaust hoax; there’s no cure for cancer; the fact Israel pulled off 9/11, to name just a few. In the hopes of avoiding being labeled as “conspiracy theorists,” “tin foil hat wearers,” “nut cases” “lunatics” or “quacks,” shouldn’t we avoid being involved in any way with these issues too?
Further, I know I am considered by many “mainstream everyday people,” to be a “quack” for my speaking the truth about these named “Conspiracy Theories,” and yet I never once thought I should avoid speaking the truth about any subject whatsoever for fear of what others might think of me. Frankly, I don’t care what others think of me. I’m going to speak the truth, in love, about any subject I think Yahweh wants me to speak about, including a stationary non-spherical Earth, despite William Finck’s opinion to the contrary.
That said, there is a way, a means by which these subjects can be brought up with “mainstream everyday people.” One of those means is to start out by showing concern for the welfare and wellbeing of those we are trying to reach with our message. By doing so, others tend to be more open to our ideas and opinions once they get to know us and know we genuinely care about and for them. After all, it is first and foremost Christian Identity.
Having had significant personal interaction with Finck over a period of several months, I can attest to the fact Finck lacks even basic concern for others or their opinions. All one has to do is express an opinion that even slightly differs with his, and you’re immediately placed on Finck’s “Ass Hat Clown List,” which from all appearances, appears to be quite long. If your opinion differs with his, even slightly, your opinion is not only wrong, you’re a “clown,” and your opinion, because it differs from his, lacks any merit whatsoever.
The truth of this observation can be seen in his response to flat Earthers: nothing they say has any merit? Every single problem spherical Earth deniers point out concerning the globe theory we’ve been presented, unchallenged, all our lives, are without merit? After several months and hundreds of hours studying the spinning spherical Earth theory I accepted, unchallenged, all my life, I find this position not only ridiculous, but contrary to Scripture.
“Prove all things, hold fast to that which is good.”[3] Prove “all things,” not just those things that “mainstream everyday people” find acceptable, including those things William Finck thinks we should not involve ourselves with.
“You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.”[4] Not some of the truth, but “the truth,” sets us free. Sets us free from what? Certainly knowing the truth sets us free from what others think of us because of our opinion about certain subjects, including the shape of the Earth Yahweh created.
To even begin to delve into many “components of Christian Identity,” to use Finck’s terms, requires an open objective mind and critical thinking skills. Finck, in my view, has prematurely answered a selected list of the weakest arguments from a very limited number of spherical spinning Earth deniers, (really just a single “flat earther” – Dubay), before he has studied the matter sufficiently to develop an intelligent position supported by facts, as is clearly evident in his statements found in the roundtable discussion he hosted. This is folly and shame.[5]
Should not Finck exhibit the very same unbiased open-mindedness in his approach to the flat earth subject that he expects others to use in their examination of the doctrines of Christian racial identity, Adolph Hitler, the holocaust, etc?
One does not have to accept every single teaching of every single Christian racial identity teacher or historical revisionist. One should and must examine all things taught by these teachers, use their God given critical thinking skills to vet out what is contrary, in their view, to Scripture, and hold onto what they prove for and to themselves, to be true. This includes William Finck’s teaching. Finck, in my view, is wrong in many of his views, the spinning, rotating spherical Earth being just one of many. Does that mean I reject everything Finck espouses? No.
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To be continued…
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