In fairness, in this particular case Howse was attempting some solid journalism: He expressed skepticism that the Earth is actually flat. But he recently received a lot of emails and other push-back from so-called “flat Earthers”—Christians who believe that a literal reading of the Bible indicates that the Earth is indeed flat.

To sort out this pressing issue, he interviewed a guy named Jason Pratt, popular in Christian media circles because he is a former atheist rocket scientist who converted to an all-in, “the Bible is the word of God” Christian. He believes, among other things, that evolution never happened. (Pratt is also a legit rocket scientist: He has a degree in aerospace engineering and is considered an expert in rockets and satellites in the U.S. Navy.)

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