by Richard Snowden
There are about 18 verses in the Bible where the words “heaven” and “earth” appear relatively close to each other. By reading these verses, we get an indication of the nature of the earth.
In Gen. 49.25 we read: Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
In Deut 4.39 we read: Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
(The underlines are mine.)
We read the words “above” and “below” which has much more significance then what we usually think. If the earth is round, what is “above” for England is not “above” for people in Chile. There would be those who agree but they would say, “That’s the practical way to describe it; we have to use our perception.” I would agree with them if the earth is a globe. But if the earth is flat than the words “above” and “below” would have more meaning. In fact, so would words “up” and “down” would have more of a meaning, too.
You can only have a “above” and “below” if there’s a universal base line; above has to be in relation to something, as does the words below, up and down.
When Christians are asked by non-believers where heaven is, they would say “above,” and point up. Others would phrase it, “somewhere up there.” Then, the atheist could turn around and say, “Where? The universe is estimated to be 13 billion light years in radius. So, exactly where is “where”?
The atheist would say, “In space, there is no above, below, up and down. So, how could God say heaven is above the earth?” At this time, the atheist would use this as another point that the Bible is wrong.
There are millions of Christians who believe in what the astronomers say. The astronomers and other scientists would have to say the Bible is wrong. The Christians, on the other hand would say, “These verses are not meant to be literal.” in short, they’d talk their way out of it. This is not being honest and the non-Christians of whatever type will ridicule the Christians.
Kent Hovid, is a popular Creationist teacher, yet when it comes to the cosmos he believes in just about everything the astronomers say. He believes that there are billions and billions of galaxies and he believes in the distance of the stars. But he ignores the verses such as you see here.
In Deuteronomy we read: (Deu 5:8) Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
This verse clearly shows that there is a relationship between heaven, earth and the waters. If the cosmos is what we are told to us by the media, how would heaven have any significance to the earth, which might be 3 billion light years away? In fact, a planet that is “only” 3 million light years away from heaven would have more meaning.
If the universe is as huge as we are told, anyone can argue as to where heaven is. One person can say it’s a million miles up and another can argue 1 million or 1 billion light years. But if the earth is flat and we are the only planet (plane), then heaven would be a very close to the earth. Again, keep in mind there is no “above” or “below” in space.
(Psa 103:11) For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.
Now, here is a very interesting verse:
(Isa 14:13) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
If the universe is what we are told by astronomers and others, how would it be possible to get above the stars? This is where Christians will say something like, “it’s figurative and not to be taken literally.” And, this is where atheists and others would say, “You can’t believe in the Bible.” The atheists, agnostics, pagans, Buddhists and others would have a point, “How can you get above the stars?” If you “ascend” above the stars, you’d have to be traveling pretty fast to catch up and keep moving to “stay ahead of the ever expanding universe. And, what would be on the other side.?” They have a point, and that is why Christians would all of a sudden say that this part of the Bible is figurative. I admit that there are some parts of the bible that is figurative. Descriptions in Revelation of the creatures, for example, represent something else. But what if this part of the Bible, as in Isaiah 14.13, were literal. Wouldn’t the Bible have more of a meaning? I certainly think so.
Flat earth believers know that the stars are much closer to earth. There is no agreed upon distance, but the figures anywhere from a couple of hundred miles to a couple of thousand miles. For we read in other parts of the Bible that the stars are in the firmament, which, in turn covers the earth. With this in mind, it’s understandable that a fallen angel can see himself above the stars. For, above the stars would be heaven itself and where Yahweh is.
Here is another verse that talks about being above the stars. (Nah 3:16) Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven: the cankerworm spoileth, and flieth away.
I hope you have a better understanding of the earth and its surrounds. Continue to check out the bible and find out more for yourself.