It has come to my attention that there is a good Christian by the name of William Finck who talks about the flat earth on his website, christogenea.org He bascially said that Christian Identity people should not get into the flat earth debate and that it doesn’t really matter what shape the earth is. Below is the text that Finck wrote for his podcast along with the link to his page if you want to hear the podcast yourself. Below the text is my comments on where William Finck is wrong. I will also write another article to give my critique on the podcast itself. THEN you decide what position good Christians should take. I would like to hear your comment below.
First is William Finck’s article as it appears on his website:
William Finck Sat. Sept 12, 2015
Is our planet Earth flat? Probably not. But in any case, certain of the flat-earthers are lying about many things. Should Identity Christians care if the Earth is flat? Probably not. And no matter what you may think, the original language of the Bible does not insist that it is. Identity Christians should keep themselves above and away from all of the fringe conspiracy theories that discredit our cause, distract us from what we should be doing, and drive people away from our core message, which is indeed true.
And if the earth is flat, will the Jews stop flooding Christendom with niggers? Certainly not. If the earth is flat, will the usury-based banking system fall? Certainly not yet. If the earth is flat, will the yellow and brown vermin infecting and overrunning our society disappear? No, they will not disappear until the true children of Israel repent of their sins annd turn back to Yahweh their God. That will not be accomplished through a flat-earth idol.
Comment on William Finck and the Flat Earth:
I will make Finck’s comments in regular type and mine in italics:
Is our planet Earth flat? Probably not.
Notice he said “probably.” Well, is it or isn’t the earth flat? Finck uses the word “probably” again. This indicated to me he’s not certain.
And no matter what you may think, the original language of the Bible does not insist that it is.
The original language DOES say many things that are contrary to what astronomers say, such as: the earth is fixed, doesn’t move, has foundations and has edges. Though the words “flat earth” doesn’t appear is not the point. You can get what the Bible means by other words. Just like the Bible does not say, “Don’t let blacks into your country,” the Bible doesn’t have to say that for us to know that having other races live among us is wrong. So, Finck’s arguments are wrong here.
Identity Christians should keep themselves above and away from all of the fringe conspiracy theories that discredit our cause…
Where does he get the idea that we should keep away fringe conspiracy theories?! This is who we are, especially those who call themselves “Christian Identity.” Firstly ANY conspiracy would be called fringe by those who kiss the backside of the government. And since when did CI people keep to just what is in the Bible. Since the time of Wesley Swift, Bertrand Comparet and Sheldon Emry, we have looked into other crooked things the government has done or has covered up, so why not now? For example, Pastor Sheldon Emry had told us about the vaccine dangers and even sold booklets to his Christian Identity followers on this subject. Why? Because it’s something that God’s people should know about. It’s a conspiracy just like the flat earth. In fact, the doctors would call those who are opposed to vaccinations as “fringe conspiracy nuts,” too. The doctors would label us the same for being flat earthers.
William Finck himself has a sub-domain on Hitler and WWII. He knows that WWII was started by the Allies as well as WWI and I agree with him. I’m glad that he has a lot of information on this subject, including about Hitler himself and National Socialism. Well, this is ANOTHER CONSPIRACY, so why is it OK for Finck to have his conspiracy but not the flat earth?!
…distract us from what we should be doing, and drive people away from our core message, which is indeed true.
The flat earth is not distracting because it’s revealing the truth. Finck tells us that it’s “distracting.” Well, when he talks about WWII or 9-11 isn’t that distracting? In a sense, it is not talking about Identity but does everything have to be about Identity? No. People who are into Identity also want to know other truths and knowing about what really happened on September 11, 2001 in New York City is of interest to CI people. In short, does everything have to be “who are God’s chosen people”? No. That’s because when you talk about other government cover ups people can see how our information is controlled.
And if the earth is flat, will the Jews stop flooding Christendom with niggers? Certainly not. If the earth is flat, will the usury-based banking system fall?
Christian Identity people who ALSO know about the flat earth do not claim that knowing about the flat earth will stop blacks from flooding into the US nor will it stop the use of usury that is destroying the economy. So, why put words in other peoples’ mouths? But knowing that Hitler wanted peace has nothing to do with Identity either. Yet, William Finck covers that on his website. I’m not complaining that he has a section of his website dedicated to Hitler nor does many other people who regularly goes on his website, so why make the statement that talking about the flat earth is distracting?
No, they will not disappear until the true children of Israel repent of their sins and turn back to Yahweh their God. That will not be accomplished through a flat-earth idol.
Flat earthers never made that claim, so why do you Pastor Finck? And as far as charging flat earth believers with that being their idol, is just a plain lie.
But why should Christian Identity people know about the true nature of the earth? For a couple of reasons:
1 – This proves that we are being lied about in a huge way
2 – The earth is God’s creation and it’s important to know about His creation
3 – It’s important to know about geography, unless you want to be like the millions of young people who are not taught that because of the dumbing down process in the schools.
4 – That the Bible talks a lot about the earth and its nature, so it is only logical to know about what the Bible says.
In closing, here are some (of many verses) about the true nature of earth as recorded in the Bible:
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm …”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable …”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “…who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast…”
The most striking feature of the Old Testament world is the “firmament,” a solid dome which separates “the waters from the waters” (Gen. 1:6). The Hebrew word translated in the Latin Vulgate as firmamentum is raqia’ whose verb form means “to spread, stamp or beat out.” The material beaten out is not directly specified, but both biblical and extrabiblical evidence suggests that it is metal. A verb form of raqia’ is used in both of these passages: “And gold leaf was hammered out…” (Ex. 39:3); and “beaten silver is brought from Tarshish” (Jer. l0:9). There are indeed figurative uses of this term. A firmament is part of the first vision of Ezekiel (1:22,26), and the editors of the evangelical Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament cite this as evidence that the Hebrews did not believe in a literal sky-dome. It is clear, however, that Ezekiel’s throne chariot is the cosmos in miniature, and the use of raqia’ most likely refers to a solid canopy (it shines “like crystal”) than to a limited space.